good riddance
good riddance
To me, the best option would be;
Allow classic characters to be copied over to a tbc realm (copied, not transfered).
To this I would add, that I would like there to be some strict limitations. Like, no more than 100g per char, no mail and just 1 bank tab, or something similar. This will make it so new players (or less wealthy players) dont enter a ruined economy.
The idea of letting new players start at 58 has no appeal for me. I believe this could be as big an economy wrecker as having people transfer in with 10k gold. However, if this is limited to 1 char per realm, I could live with it.
Any option is good rly, depending on their fine print.
TBC was bad ass, but lore wise it was... People love these - let's make them into bosses! Someone like Arthas was built and created in w3 and wotlk. Ilidan got redeemed a bit in legion but Vashj and Kaelthas were thrown into raids with some no names because *insert random dumb reason* (IT's JUST COOOL TO FIGHT HIM!). What I mean.. there was no real reasonable transformation for them to be baddies except for "oh btw, Kaelthas is now a Burning Legion bitch so kill him"
I mean, the sunwell Kael doesn’t make sense I’ll give you that, but did you play it wc3 at all? You know they aren’t just thrown in as bad guys for no reason lol. They were working together with illidan of which was considered bad at the time. Not sure how that’s so hard to understand why they were considered ‘bad’
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I agree with the gold, I agree with the mail, I don’t agree with the bank tabs. Just because, there are a lot of cool little things I have in my bank that I like to keep stashed so I understand why this would be bad. And anything hoarded in classic won’t be of any value once tbc hits.
And the level 58 thing was sort of weird to me as well, although I wouldn’t personally (and selfishly I might add) like it, I understand what they are going for 100% and honestly would be completely fine if it was just one character.
This is what I think they are doing... If tbc hits, there IS going to be a sizeable population that comes to tbc that didn’t want to play classic. I know a ton of people in this category. And I won’t lie, if I were to be in their position and REALLY REALLY REALLY want to play tbc but because I didn’t want to play classic I’m now a month or two behind, that would make the hype a little less big.
Starting at 58 (at least one char) could have a REAL nice potential to get a big population up and keep it there for longer. So I understand why they would be looking at this option. And honestly I would be ok with it.
I did. Kaelthas was not "bad", they were exiled and as a player you actually rooted for them in W3 because humans were being aholes. In outland they were killing demons. They killed Maevs forces because she was crazy pursuing Ilidan. And what Ilidan did during wota and during legion invasion in w3 was ok. It's just night elfs crazy scared of arcane. You could have easily allied Kaelthas and Ilidan in TBC as you Orcs allied with trolls - common enemy, legion. What we did instead we went into outland to kill "the bad" Ilidan. Why?
Yeah everything you just said points exactly why he would turn into a villain LOL. Also, whats the fascination with people only wanting villains to be this all bad never good characters? That's boring, that's why people loved Arthas so much, he was a good guy, he did what he thought was good for his people and went mad over trying to defeat malganis. He isn't really 'all' evil.
Same thing with Illidan. From the start he was an enemy/good guy. We had common enemies, but the nightelves deemed him to be dangerous and a 'beast'. He went into outland to fight the burning legion and overthrow them (this is the story during tbc). We thought he was trying to gain an army and enslave the locals there so he had to be dealt with. What you're saying just doesn't make much sense for why you don't understand how this could happen. We screwed him over in wc3 time and time again, he helped us and we still treated him like a tool and warned him to basically just stay the fuck away. If you're upset with the story, it started in WC3 and that's what you should be upset about. TBC just continued on the path that these characters progressions were leading towards.
As for Kael, yeah it's the perfect story (just like literally every. single. villain. in. warcraft.), he was once on our side, got fucked over or driven mad, and allied with Illidan which at the time we thought was 'bad', and went to outland (with the burning legions command) to take over that world to defeat arthas. Which at the time, the humans/elves/the players character didn't know this was what he was going to do.
I'm just convinced you guys didn't pay much attention to the story in WC3 because it makes perfect sense.
Honestly, I would just watch videos like this if you are bored, it makes way more sense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEi0z3Bdd8M
good job!
I'm just convinced you guys didn't pay much attention to the story in WC3 because it makes perfect sense.
No they don’t. Everything I said is literally events that happened and were current during the time of tbc and wc3 I didn’t say a single thing that’s opinion based.
The poster above mentioned it didn’t make sense to make these guys ‘bad’ guys when they were 100% already considered bad guys by the alliance (and horde technically).
If you dislike that story, that’s fine. But the problem didn’t start in tbc, this is where it was heading through wc3. Full stop. Not an opinion
Whereas the story in vanilla doesn't come out of nowhere at all.. let's be honest, the story in wow until Cata was very pocketed. It created a nice picture if you look at it together but the narrative has always been a weak point.
That said, I don't think lore is weak in tbc.. AT ALL. Just pay attention to it, the details in Karazhan, TK or Black Temple are amazing as far as individual stories go.
Sure you can think it’s good or not if you want to no one is stopping you. The points you’re bringing up on the other hand just don’t make sense.
If your stance is just ‘I don’t like the story’ then that’s fine. When your statements are ‘they are weak and they are come out of nowhere’, then you’re speaking silly talk.