[Megathread] Star Citizen

[Katchii]

I hate that i am agreeing with kenn because he is nothing more than a indefensible Chris Shill, but if the people don't provide feedback in official capacity, they essentially have no feedback to the developers. It's the same as for Shadowlands, feedback and bugreports need to be made and articulated through official channels, because those are the only ones guaranteed to get in front of people in capacity to change something. Yes, they MIGHT act on something through 3rd party channels, but they are not obligated to even acknowledge 3rd party channels.

Now don't get me wrong, SC is a scam, and will be vaporware more likely than a released game, and people still defending it are either sunkcost whales or Chris Groupies that will just follow him to the next disaster.

I don't disagree with this, but only in regards to that person's specific feedback to the developer. These people still have opinions, and may have voiced those opinions to folks who DO post on forums even if they themselves don't post in an official capacity. Just because they themselves don't post it, doesn't mean those opinions are invalid or don't matter.

[Ophenia]

I hate that i am agreeing with kenn because he is nothing more than a indefensible Chris Shill, but if the people don't provide feedback in official capacity, they essentially have no feedback to the developers. It's the same as for Shadowlands, feedback and bugreports need to be made and articulated through official channels, because those are the only ones guaranteed to get in front of people in capacity to change something. Yes, they MIGHT act on something through 3rd party channels, but they are not obligated to even acknowledge 3rd party channels.

They don’t necessarily need to acknowledge third party stuff. If you have 15 friends sharing your point of view, you can still post on forums saying that your POV is also your friends’.
That’s maybe less impactful than a total spam of 15 topics saying the same stuff, but the opinion is still valid.
You can also gather ideas/feedback on third parties (mmo-c, reddit, Twitter or discord), then compile in a documented post in an official forum. Still works.

[Proskill]

is there a list of quests currently available in the game divided into these categories: dogfighting, ground combat, courier\delivery and whatever else there is?

can someone tell me which quests are what? cuz i try to read them thinking one will take place on a surface of a planet or a moon but instead its another spaceship combat and additionaly i took the wrong ship for that job

which quests do u recommend to do and which ones to avoid? which one are fun and which ones are only good for making money?

thanks in advance

[Val the Moofia Boss]

is there a list of quests currently available in the game divided into these categories: dogfighting, ground combat, courier\delivery and whatever else there is?

can someone tell me which quests are what? cuz i try to read them thinking one will take place on a surface of a planet or a moon but instead its another spaceship combat and additionaly i took the wrong ship for that job

which quests do u recommend to do and which ones to avoid? which one are fun and which ones are only good for making money?

thanks in advance

List of generic missions that can appear on your MobiGlass:

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Space combat
Lawful

• Bounty Contract: fly to the location and kill an NPC bounty.

• Skimmer (accepted around Crusader): go to the designated location. Approach the array. Press TAB to turn on your scanner. Hold down right click and charge the scanner all the way. Release right click. Go to the center of the big blue boxes, and the skimmers will appear. Blow up the skimmer. Repeat two more times. Once you attack the first skimmer, you get a 3 minute timer to destroy them all. Each time you blow up a skimmer, an NPC criminal ship will jump in. Ignore those and just try to blow up the other two first.

• Escort mission: (WARNING: I strongly recommend that you do not do these missions, as they are usually bugged, and it is very hard to do them by yourself, and the payout is generally not worth the time and effort involved). You will go from location to location and blow up and criminal ships that appear.

• Claim jumper: you are contracted to destroy illegal 9 illegal mining sentries in an asteroid field. The asteroid field is also populated by criminal Prospectors which will try to blow you up, but the destruction of the Prospectors is not required to complete the mission. Be warned that this mission is pretty hard if you go in a single seater small ship, as the combination of incoming sentry fire and EMPs from the Prospectors will tear you apart very quickly unless you are in an incredible evasive ship like the Arrow. Unless you have a Hornet, your best bet is to bring a friend for these missions.

Criminal

• Kill target: go and kill the target in space.

• Claiming a stake: go to the asteroid field and blow up the designated targets. Like the claim jumper missions, this is pretty hard to do solo.

• (Forgot the name of this mission, it spawns when you have 5 crimestat): you will be tasked with killing as many navy ships within one hour. Navy ships may randomly interdict you while you are in quantum travel, or can appear around stations. The navy ships usually quite strong, and might come in a group of 2 or 3, so I recommend you bring a friend.

Space and FPS combat
Lawful

• Bounty Issue: kill the designated criminal player. (Due to a bug in 3.9, the bounty target may not appear on your HUD). If you're trying to make money, you'll probably want to pass over this, as 50% of the time the bounty target is either hanging out in an armistice zone (typically GRIM Hex but sometimes a station), 20% they are in quantum travel on their way to an armistice zone, and 20% of the time they are onboard a ship that is very, very, very hard to kill (like a Carrack). 10% of the time you'll be able to actually kill them, but the amount of time you will spend searching for a player who is actually killable will be quite lengthy. Really, only do this mission if you want to PvP.

• Kill prison escapees: these are players who have made it to the surface of Aberdeen, the prison planet. Escapees require the aid of another player who has ship to get off of the planet. Once the prison escapee has boarded the ship, they will then quantum travel to Crusader. Their ultimate destination is to go straight to Security Post Kareah to reset their crimestat, but they may go to GRIM Hex first to buy Cryptokeys and equipment. Don't bother going to GRIM Hex; instead go to Celin and wait for your prey. Your best bet is to go to the SPK right away. If you got there first, self destruct your ship so when the players come they don't detect you are there, then wait inside the SPK, and then kill the players when they begin hacking the computer in the center room.

• Stop array hack: go to the designated location, fly into the array, go to the computer terminal at the bottom, stop the hack. If there is a ship outside of the array, then that means that the criminal player is still here. I'd advise stealth; don't blow up his ship, but instead slow down and move up to the entrance to the array slowly, so he doesn't hear you. Get out of your ship, go inside, kill him.

• 890 Hijack: go to the location in space, blow up any ships, go up to the 890, get out of your ship, board the 890, clear the ship. WARNING: there may be friendly NPC security personnel on the ship (usually dressed in white), and if you kill them you will gain crimestat and instantly fail the mission.

Criminal

• The Price of Freedom (spawns around Hurston, ArcCorp, and microTech): go to the location in space, blow up any hostile ships, board the Caterpillar, kill the 7 prison guards, go to the cockpit, read the prisoner manifest, wake up the four prisoners listed, kill the traitor. WARNING: sometimes while you are on board the prison transport, another police ship will jump in, and will shoot at your ship while you are on the prison transport. You either need to 1. be quick before your ride out explodes, 2. have a friend outside, or 3. hope your ship is tanky enough.

• Array hack: go to the designated array, fly up to the entrance, get out of your ship, go into the array, go down the computer at the bottom, hack the array. Once you begin hacking the array, a "stop array hack" mission becomes available for everyone else, so you may have people on their way to come kill you, so beware. You are quite vulnerable in this state, as you cannot go back to your ship without the hack resetting, and your ship can be blown up while you are inside, and inside there are no places for you to find cover. Best done with a friend outside on the lookout.

FPS combat
WARNING: FPS combat is very finnicky. The time-to-kill in this game is very, very, very short: even if you are wearing heavy armor, if you are being shot at for more than one second YOU WILL DIE. Furthermore, due to latency issues, you may die before you even have a chance to react. Once combat starts, all criminal NPCs in the area will start converging on your position. It is recommended that you do these missions with a friend.

Lawful

• Security Post Breach/Break In (accepted around Crusader): go to the SPK around Celin, land at the SPK (there may or may not be random NPC criminal ships that you need to blow up), enter the SPK, kill the criminals.

• Bunker (accepted while you are in the Hurston area): go to the designated bunker. Kill any turrets shooting at you. Land. Go inside. Go down the elevator. Kill the criminal NPCs.

For the generic missions, my favorites are the missions that have you fight other players, so basically the bounties, the player escapees, and the array hacks. For non-PvP missions, the 890 hijack and the prison transport missions are fun.

If you just want to make money, go to Hurston. Accept the appointment to see Miles. Go to Loreville. Go into the bar. Talk to Miles. Accept his mission. Complete the mission. Bam. On your Mobiglass, you will start seeing missions called "Coordinated Takedown" and "Two in the Head". This mission requires that two players go to two separate locations and kill their NPC criminal targets at the same time (they must be killed within 60 seconds of each other), and pays out 30k-40k. Since the money is split between you, that means you will be making 15k-20k credits every 3 minutes. The NPC ships that spawn are usually small to medium sized ships, stuff like 300is, Reliants, Freelancers, etc. However, sometimes a Retaliator will spawn. As such, I recommend bringing a pretty beefy ship. I would recommend renting a Freelancer and equipping it with 4 Mantis GT-220s). Be sure to accept the "Call to Arms" mission too, as you will get a little extra cash from each kill. You will make upwards of 200k-300k an hour.

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Currently downloading Star Citizen 3.10.

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I logged in at New Babbage. Got out of bed... and then immediately fell through the floor to my death.

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Well it doesn't appear they've fixed the mobiglass problem (pressing F1 to open the mobiglass, only for it to immediately close).

Okay finally got it open. Looks like all of my stuff carried over.

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annnnd 30k server crash

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doesn't seem like buying a new mobiglass changes your hud color or anything special, just changes the color of the mobiglass on your wrist (which you can only see during the 1% of the time when you aren't wearing a suit).

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I've been hearing some horror stories from other players who are getting crimestat for trying to leave Area 18; apparently if you veer off from the autopilot landing tunnel, the autopilot takes control of your ship and you crash into a building and get crimestat.

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Welp, I got on board a tram to the spaceport, but when the tram arrived the doors didn't open, and the spaceport floor hadn't loaded in... then another tram arrived and clipped into the tram I was on.

Ship claiming is broken; I tried to claim a destroyed ship and then nothing happened. Tried again. Nothing.

Darn it the 300i entry bug is still here! (Try climbing up the ladder of your 300 series ship, and then when the animation ends, you pop out of the ship).

Okay so I just landed at Grim Hex, except I can't get out of my 325a! There is an invisible wall where the open door is

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Lol guards now walk in place like in Final Fantasy Tactics.



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Server crashed

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My hands!



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server crashed again

Okay, I have to admit. The new electron weapons are pretty rad. I think the new electron sniper rifle has the furthest range of any ground weapon in the game (besides the railguns and rocket launchers meant for taking out ships from the ground), and the electron handgun has a really high fire rate AND it's AoE.

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What I really don't like is the new top speed. The top speed of your ship is around 600-700 meters per second, about half of the previous top speed (which was like 1350 mps). That means it takes twice as long to travel while in space! If I'm trying to fly to a bounty target who is in orbit around a moon, but the nearest OM point is 200 KM away, then that means it now takes me 7 minutes to manually fly to him (whereas previously it would have only taken 3). Or, if I'm trying to fly to a drug lab that I can't QT to, like the Orphanage... then yeah, my previously 10 minute long trip just became 20 minutes long.

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Another crash.

The new pip system is... okay maybe? Dunno. In the previous system, you could press R twice, and it'd lock your cursor to the center of the screen, and bring up a circle. As long as you aimed your ship so that the target was within that circle, your gimballed weapons would fire at the ship and generally the shots would land. If you didn't have gimablled weapons, then you aimed your ship at the lead pips.

Now, there is no targeting circle. Only lead pips. Meaning that there really isn't a reason to have gimballed weapons anymore as they no longer auto aim. If you have gimballed weapons, you still have to move your cursor to the lead pips. Mind as well just use fixed weapons now.




Screw the autopilot landing zones! I tried to approach Loreville for landing, and I was coming in slow towards the hangars... but nooooo the autopilot had to engage and fly me away. Okay then, so I tried flying into the landing zone tunnel, but nooooo the autopilot system had to engage and fly me away. So I had to fly ALL THE WAY OUT and then enter the landing zone tunnel from the very very back! Who thought that this was a good idea? Uggggh

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Oh okay so they didn't remove auto aim; they just rebound the key from R to G. Seems like they rebound a lot of keys this patch.

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Okay, I'm done with Star Citizen 3.10. It's literally just 3.9 but with two new guns, space flight now takes twice as long, and now landing and taking off at spaceports is now aggravating. If you've already played a ton of Star Citizen 3.9, you're not missing anything.

Looking at the roadmap, there is pretty much nothing of note to look forward to for the rest of the year.

[Henako]

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Hey, for what it's worth, I still really enjoy these write-ups of your experience each session. It paints a really good picture of the current state of the game, good and bad.

It seems like the devs make a lot of really strange decisions and changes, and they break as much as they fix.

[Beazy]

300+ Million, and it still looks worse than The Sims.

https://imgur.com/VPqvqVe

But dat fidelity. . . . . . . .

[Henako]

300+ Million, and it still looks worse than The Sims.

https://imgur.com/VPqvqVe

But dat fidelity. . . . . . . .

Obviously the procedurally generated server meshing food-based neural network for AI eating animations hasn't been implemented yet but you can't expect that this is the greatest game project every being attempted with the largest kickstarter ever and massive funding raised from fans and nobody could have made that npc eat any better and especially not as fast as CIG has done it with their small team and honestly NPC eating animations aren't that important anyway tbh just look at WoW and their eating animations in that everyone just eats bread out of a mug that's not realistic and that game has been in development for over a decade CIG has only had eight years to develop this so honestly this is Chris's vision and anyone backing knew that going in and they knew who Chris was and this is his dream project and if it's not the game you want it to be that's tough.

That chomp chomp chomp actually made me laugh out loud, though. How unsettling, lol.

[Rennadrel]

Then maybe, it should be clear why people are so baffed why there are still sheeps who try to defend this and they´re trying to clear them of their delusions?

Or you just block the idiots and try to have a worth while discussion, but it seems like you morons keep acknowledging him and his constant dishonest shilling, while whining about things taking forever. Most of us know that, we acknowledge that, we don't need to fucking be reminded every single god damn day!

I'm not going to sit here and try to rationalize the delays, that's what Kenn does and that's why I put him on the block list. I'd be more engaged if this thread would stop being an endless pissing contest between you people and an obvious shill who doesn't want to admit that he is wrong.

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When a tiny portion of the community votes to expand the scope of the game and delay it indefinitely - yup these people speak for the majority...
When a tiny portion of the community voices its concern at the lack of Sq42 updates - meh you're insignificant, you don't speak for anyone...

The sad thing is that the extent of Squadron 42 updates has literally been words typed for an email. That's it. There's nothing tangible to prove its existence, which is the most frustrating part for me. Frankly, I'm more interested in the single player, because the shitty toxic online culture has made me hate online games. And it pisses me off that in the 6 years since I backed the game, nothing has come of the single player.

[Aliven]

Obviously the procedurally generated server meshing food-based neural network for AI eating animations hasn't been implemented yet but you can't expect that this is the greatest game project every being attempted with the largest kickstarter ever and massive funding raised from fans and nobody could have made that npc eat any better and especially not as fast as CIG has done it with their small team and honestly NPC eating animations aren't that important anyway tbh just look at WoW and their eating animations in that everyone just eats bread out of a mug that's not realistic and that game has been in development for over a decade CIG has only had eight years to develop this so honestly this is Chris's vision and anyone backing knew that going in and they knew who Chris was and this is his dream project and if it's not the game you want it to be that's tough.

That chomp chomp chomp actually made me laugh out loud, though. How unsettling, lol.

That reads like trump twitts...

[Vespian]

That reads like trump twitts...

He still used a dot at the end, for proper punctuation.

[Beazy]

LoL omg my sides. Chris Roberts is a lying sack of shit.

[Mukind]

Looks like 8 years later most of you are finally realizing you're never going to see anything worth playing

Jillian Anderson and Gary Oldman, money well spent. Hahahahaha

What a giant joke

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Free Fly event begins tomorrow, lasting for two weeks. You can play Star Citizen for free (all you have to do is make an account and download the game) and there are 16 different ships to fly (just log in, go downstairs to the terminal and pick a ship to spawn and off you go!).


Any way, so the poll results came in for the top 16 most popular ships in Star Citizen.

• How on earth did the Hornet not make the top 16 list? It's the most iconic Star Citizen ship besides maybe the Bengal Carrier!

• Quite surprisingly, the Reliant made it to the top 16. I guess it doesn't matter how mediocre a ship actually performs so long as it has great visual design (well the Reclaimer is also made the list too despite being legit useless; at least you can DO something with the Reliant. But, hey: salvager fantasy, and Firefly fanboys, I guess).

• Which makes me sad that the Xian Khartu Al didn't make it in (which has just as great visual design and is one of the best fighters in the game).

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Oh, and btw

the Eclipse is one of the free fly ships.

... Yeah, it's going to be a murderfest with everyone flying Eclipses and torping anyone who even wanders an inch outside of PO's armistice zone. So uh, don't spend your money on cargo trying to trade! You'll lose it either to a server crash or a ganker

[kenn9530]

Looks like 8 years later most of you are finally realizing you're never going to see anything worth playing

Jillian Anderson and Gary Oldman, money well spent. Hahahahaha

What a giant joke

Already plenty worth playing currently so try again

[Beazy]

Already plenty worth playing currently so try again

LoL is the server cap still 50?

LoL /facepalm

[Cracked]

Free Fly event begins tomorrow, lasting for two weeks. You can play Star Citizen for free (all you have to do is make an account and download the game) and there are 16 different ships to fly (just log in, go downstairs to the terminal and pick a ship to spawn and off you go!).


Any way, so the poll results came in for the top 16 most popular ships in Star Citizen.

• How on earth did the Hornet not make the top 16 list? It's the most iconic Star Citizen ship besides maybe the Bengal Carrier!

• Quite surprisingly, the Reliant made it to the top 16. I guess it doesn't matter how mediocre a ship actually performs so long as it has great visual design (well the Reclaimer is also made the list too despite being legit useless; at least you can DO something with the Reliant. But, hey: salvager fantasy, and Firefly fanboys, I guess).

• Which makes me sad that the Xian Khartu Al didn't make it in (which has just as great visual design and is one of the best fighters in the game).

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Oh, and btw

the Eclipse is one of the free fly ships.

... Yeah, it's going to be a murderfest with everyone flying Eclipses and torping anyone who even wanders an inch outside of PO's armistice zone. So uh, don't spend your money on cargo trying to trade! You'll lose it either to a server crash or a ganker

Any idea on how large the gamefiles are? I'd be open to see the shitshow after a few years again for myself (not that I have high expectations), but if it's more than 30gb it's not worth the hassle.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Any idea on how large the gamefiles are? I'd be open to see the shitshow after a few years again for myself (not that I have high expectations), but if it's more than 30gb it's not worth the hassle.

The game is 62 GB as of the latest patch.

[Rennadrel]

The game is 62 GB as of the latest patch.

That's unpacked mind you, I think the compressed data last check was around 35 GB before the last patch.

[Advent]

I don't get this game at all. Is the whole thing basically just run around in the hangar all day? Is that what they've spent the last several years polishing?

[XDurionX]

I don't get this game at all. Is the whole thing basically just run around in the hangar all day? Is that what they've spent the last several years polishing?

It's nothing like a real hangar though, since there are only 50 people in the whole universe. As i understood, you can also fly through void space for hours without encountering anything of interest.