Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[eschatological]

Its like that after months of violence billions of property damage and more then 2 dozen people killed the police actually hate you. how odd !
perhaps you should not commit violent acts.

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It was attempted murder. so he was fully justified.

Yeah, try again. The protests in Kenosha started this week.

He is not justified, and Wisconsin is a "duty to retreat" state, not a stand your ground state, so him INTENTIONALLY CROSSING THE BORDER with an ILLEGALLY CARRIED, UNREGISTERED (in Wisconsin) gun, while wearing surgical gloves to not leave fingerprints......is gonna be hard to argue self-defense. He and his people instigated.

[Felya]

Also we are not in a war. The LARPING about Hitler and shit is unneeded dude. The whole punch Nazis is probably the worst part of the illiberal left movement

Interesting... LARPING about Hitler?

Its not hard to see that the democratic party supports BLM the same movement the rioters are subscribed too.

A toxic movement if you ask me but whatevs

Are you sure the Democratic Party is even LARPING as rioters? Is Biden even defending rioters, for you to come to this conclusion?

I don’t know bud... last night Charlie Kurk said that Trump is the only thing protecting the western world from collapse. Are you sure it’s the people killing protestors that are LARPING?

[jonnysensible]

anyone made a list of the fash posters who all say exactly the same lines?

[Daelak]

The shootings *in this video* look justified, at least. Chasing someone, attacking him while he's on the ground, and attempting to steal his weapon is a cut and dry case.

They were chasing him because he just committed first degree murder and taunted the protesters and brandished his AR.

[Felya]

The shootings *in this video* look justified, at least. Chasing someone, attacking him while he's on the ground, and attempting to steal his weapon is a cut and dry case.

Why didn’t the cops try to take his illegally carried gun? WTF?

[Daelak]

Its like that after months of violence billions of property damage and more then 2 dozen people killed the police actually hate you. how odd !
perhaps you should not commit violent acts.

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It was attempted murder. so he was fully justified.

Explicit, blatant display of how utterly fascistic local law enforcement can be. This is exhibit 1 in showing structural racism.

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Well, considering there's footage of the first "victim" assaulting him prior to being shot, and then he was attacked again was he was making his way to surrender himself to the police, yeah it kinda does look like self defense.

Yeah, empty plastic bags must be very threatening to piece of shit militia LARPers.

[Flower Milk]

Its not hard to see that the democratic party supports BLM the same movement the rioters are subscribed too.

A toxic movement if you ask me but whatevs

Lol what the fuck are you talking about? I'm a leftist and I hate the Democratic Party and bitch ass liberals. Do you really think the people rioting are excited to vote for Joe Biden, the dude that wrote the 94 Crime Bill that caused all of these problems with the police to begin with?

Here's your answer: https://youtu.be/7zthJUf31MA?t=395

And also no, because we're not idiots who think that people like yourself who support fascism will suddenly magically disappear and stop being big ol' racists once we get a president with a D next to their name.

[NED funded]

Interesting... LARPING about Hitler?



Are you sure the Democratic Party is even LARPING as rioters? Is Biden even defending rioters, for you to come to this conclusion?

I don’t know bud... last night Charlie Kurk said that Trump is the only thing protecting the western world from collapse. Are you sure it’s the people killing protestors that are LARPING?

Im sure Biden doesnt subscribe to the ideology of BLM himself but a lot of democrats are that was the general point of it. I think Biden and few others have condemned the riots the rest are either silent or actively support BLM

The LARPING comment refers to people that think we are in World War II so its totally ok to use violence on people that disagree with them bc that is what it ultimately boils down to

[unfilteredJW]

The LARPING comment refers to people that think we are in World War II so its totally ok to use violence on people that disagree with them bc that is what it ultimately boils down to

So head canon. Cool.

[downnola]

Lol what the fuck are you talking about? I'm a leftist and I hate the Democratic Party and bitch ass liberals. Do you really think the people rioting are excited to vote for Joe Biden, the dude that wrote the 94 Crime Bill that caused all of these problems with the police to begin with?

Here's your answer: https://youtu.be/7zthJUf31MA?t=395

Haha, yeah the 1994 crime bill was the start of all the problems with the police.

[Flower Milk]

Haha, yeah 1994 crime bill was the start of all the problems with the police.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violen...cy_and_impacts

The 1994 Crime Bill marked a shift in the politics of crime and policing in the United States. Sociologist and criminologist William R. Kelly states that, "While the longer-term impact of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 was questionable, the political impact was clear — crime control or 'tough on crime' became a bipartisan issue."[27]

Bill Clinton has claimed credit for the reduction in crime rates in the 1990s, stating that, "Because of that bill we had a 25-year low in crime, a 33-year low in the murder rate, and because of that and the background-check law, we had a 46-year low in deaths of people by gun violence.”[28] Crime rates underwent a long period of reduction in beginning in 1991 and declined by 26% during this eight-year period.[19][29] The primary reasons for this reduction remain a topic of debate.[19] A study by the General Accounting Office found that grant funding from the Community Oriented Policing Services program supported the hiring of an estimated 17,000 additional officers in 2000, its peak year of impact, and increased additional employment by 89,000 officer-years from 1994 to 2001. This was an increase of 3% in the number of sworn officers in the United States.[30] The GAO concluded that the COPS Office potentially had a modest impact in reducing crime, contributing to an approximate 5% reduction in overall crime rates from 1993 to 2001.[29] A published study by criminologists John Worrell and Tomislav Kovandzic found that "COPS spending had little to no effect on crime."[31]

The Crime Bill has also become emblematic of a shift towards mass incarceration in the United States, although its contribution to the long-term trend of expanding prisons is debated. The Justice Policy Institute stated in 2008 that "the Clinton Administration's "tough on crime" policies resulted in the largest increases in federal and state inmate populations of any president in American history.[32] Jeremy Travis, former director of the National Institute of Justice, described the truth-in-sentencing provisions of the law as a catalyst: "Here's the federal government coming in and saying we'll give you money if you punish people more severely, and 28 states and the District of Columbia followed the money and enacted stricter sentencing laws for violent offenses."[33] The Act may have had a minor effect on mass incarceration and prison expansion.[34] In 1998, twenty-seven states and the District of Columbia qualified for that Federal grant program.[20] Thirteen more states adopted truth-in-sentencing law applying to some crimes or with a lower percentage threshold.[22] By 1997, sixty-nine percent of sentenced violent offenders were in states meeting the 85% "truth-in-sentencing" threshold and over ninety percent faced at least a 50% threshold.[22] The Bureau of Justice Statistics projected in 1999 that, "As a result of truth-in-sentencing practices, the State prison population is expected to increase through the incarceration of more offenders for longer periods of time," and found that the State prison population had "increased by 57%" to "a high of 1,075,052 inmates" while the number of people sentenced to prison each year was only up by 17%.[22] However, a GAO report found that federal incentives were "not a factor" in enacting truth in sentencing provisions in 12 of the 27 states that qualified, and "a key factor" in just four.[35]

[eschatological]

TIL that "Fuck tha police" by NWA musta come out in 1994.

[alexw]

It was attempted murder. so he was fully justified.

Like fuck was it.

Running at someone and kicking them is not attempted murder. Nor is throwing an object at someone. Nor is grabbing the terrorists gun when he tries to murder more people.

But I'm not surprised that one of this forums resident racists and right wing extremists would say that.

You are perfectly OK with murder and terrorism just so long as its a right winger doing it.

[downnola]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violen...cy_and_impacts

I know what it is, I was laughing at you claiming it started "all of the problems with the police."

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TIL that "Fuck tha police" by NWA musta come out in 1994.

I almost linked it too

[Edge-]

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...se-trump-rally

Guess the murderer is a big fan of Trump! Who would have thought?!

[Felya]

I almost linked it too

1971...



Very under rated...

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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...se-trump-rally

Guess the murderer is a big fan of Trump! Who would have thought?!

That status of “just trying to be famous”... that’s going to reverberate.

[jonnysensible]

The LARPING

is the whole larping throwaway some sort of psychological defense for you because you cant deal with the horror that these people are deadly serious and murder people?

[Themius]

https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/26/2...ng-blm-protest

Facebook chose not to act on militia complaints before Kenosha shooting

In the wake of an apparent double murder Tuesday night in Kenosha, Facebook has faced a wave of scrutiny over posts by a self-proclaimed militia group called Kenosha Guard, which issued a “call to arms” to in advance of the protest.

Facebook took down Kenosha Guard’s Facebook page Wednesday morning, identifying the posts as violating community standards. But while the accounts were ultimately removed, new evidence suggests the platform had ample warning about the account before the shooting brought the group to prominence.

At least two separate Facebook users reported the account for inciting violence prior to the shooting, The Verge has learned. In each case, the group and its counter-protest event were examined by Facebook moderators and found not to be in violation of the platform’s policies.



One user, who asked not to be identified by name, said she had reported the Kenosha Guards event in advance of the protest. Facebook moderators responded that the event itself was not in violation of platform policy, but specific comments could be reported for inciting violence. She reported a specific comment threatening to put nails in the tires of protestors’ cars, but it too was found to be within the bounds of Facebook policy.

“There were lots of comments like that in the event,” she says. “People talking about being ‘locked and loaded.’ People asking what types of weapons and people responding to ‘bring everything.’”

[downnola]

is the whole larping throwaway some sort of psychological defense for you because you cant deal with the horror that these people are deadly serious and murder people?

It really comes down to the fact that any sort of resistance to the state of policing is considered illegitimate. You're either a BLM Marxist, a LARPer, or a rioter. Don't ask if there is a reasonable and respectable way to protest because there isn't one.

Keep it out of Sports, Music, Movies, and Literature too while you're at it.

*edit - and games too.

[jonnysensible]

https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/26/2...ng-blm-protest

facebook was complicit in the genocide in Myanmar. I really dont think they have a problem with people organising death squads on thier platform. Its fucking sick.

Just look at how much of Qanon (which is also going to end with shootings or Aum like attacks) is organised on closed facebook groups.