Genocide On The Border

[postman1782]

accused does not mean guilty. If i accuse you of being involved of a diamond heist that doesn't automatically make you guilty, does it?

Bodakane is a diamond thief! Arrest him!

We should wait for some proof such as video evidence, medical records, etc, rather than he said she said bullshit.

If he is not a board certified OB-GYN, why was he doing pelvic exams and doing surgeries on their reproductive organs?

[Zython]

accused does not mean guilty. If i accuse you of being involved of a diamond heist that doesn't automatically make you guilty, does it?

Bodakane is a diamond thief! Arrest him!

We should wait for some proof such as video evidence, medical records, etc, rather than he said she said bullshit.

It’s a good thing uteruses naturally disappear on their own, or this would be stupid.

[nonameelf]

Oh look, those concentration camps that all the Trumplings claimed weren't concentration camps are now committing crimes against humanity. Can't wait to find out what other awful things the Trump admin has been hiding from us.

Can we impeach him now or is there a certain number of crimes we need to reach before it's acceptable?

[Poopymonster]

Oh look, those concentration camps that all the Trumplings claimed weren't concentration camps are now committing crimes against humanity. Can't wait to find out what other awful things the Trump admin has been hiding from us.

Can we impeach him now or is there a certain number of crimes we need to reach before it's acceptable?

Well once he's spayed all the brown people in the country, in a generation or two we won't have a problem now will we? /s

[Felya]

Oh look, those concentration camps that all the Trumplings claimed weren't concentration camps are now committing crimes against humanity. Can't wait to find out what other awful things the Trump admin has been hiding from us.

Can we impeach him now or is there a certain number of crimes we need to reach before it's acceptable?

Yeah, Trump should have been impeached for each of his crimes, because it would have changed nothing. Impeachment is one of those things we lost, because of Trump presidency. His rhetoric made the entire process, counter productive and likely invalidated it for a while.

When was the last time you heard Biden mention impeachment? After what they did to Clinton and then acted that Trump’s derp squad was the same, pretty much ruined it. At this point, Trump’s goons going to Ukraine to gain favor and perceived secrets from a Russian oligarch puppet, is just like Trump’s goons blowing him in the Oval Office.

[postman1782]

Well once he's spayed all the brown people in the country, in a generation or two we won't have a problem now will we? /s

The old poem about Jews is appropriate here from World War 2.

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

- Martin Niemöller

announced doesn't care until they come for him.

[nonameelf]

Yeah, Trump should have been impeached for each of his crimes, because it would have changed nothing. Impeachment is one of those things we lost, because of Trump presidency. His rhetoric made the entire process, counter productive and likely invalidated it for a while.

When was the last time you heard Biden mention impeachment? After what they did to Clinton and then acted that Trump’s derp squad was the same, pretty much ruined it. At this point, Trump’s goons going to Ukraine to gain favor and perceived secrets from a Russian oligarch puppet, is just like Trump’s goons blowing him in the Oval Office.

I meant how many crimes are needed before Republicans agree to impeach.

But then, they let Bush get away with war crimes.

[Themius]

I meant how many crimes are needed before Republicans agree to impeach.

But then, they let Bush get away with war crimes.

How many?

Probably something like... oh I don't know.. e^x with x growing by 1 every second of every day per day. About that many.

[announced]

You would trust medical records to be accurate when they're already willing to act unethical?

Medical records are harder to fake, same with video evidence. I thought that reasoning would be obvious to most.

If he is not a board certified OB-GYN, why was he doing pelvic exams and doing surgeries on their reproductive organs?

I'm not a doctor, but isn't it true you don't need to be board certified to perform a pelvic exam or any of those surgeries? Based on search results it seems like a specialized surgeon is recommended, but not required.

The old poem about Jews is appropriate here from World War 2.


- Martin Niemöller

announced doesn't care until they come for him.

Aren't democrats the ones that love abortion and getting rid of black and brown babies? Isn't that why they purposefully setup clinics in poor neighborhoods? I think you have the wrong side on that poem.

[postman1782]

Aren't democrats the ones that love abortion and getting rid of black and brown babies? Isn't that why they purposefully setup clinics in poor neighborhoods? I think you have the wrong side on that poem.

This is your shitty argument? This is the same as abortion? Forced sterilization is the same as a choice to have an abortion? Do you want to think about this again? I know you are a Trump supporter, but this has to be one of the most racist things I have seen on this forum so far.

[silveth]

I would normally say why don't we wait for the investigations to come back with more info before jumping right to Impeachment, but I have given up. No one does no matter how many times the original story turns out to be wrong. If its true, its horrible, but I like to wait to see some evidence before jumping to conclusions.

I will point out that one of the attorneys for the accusers state that she didn't believe it was a policy or push from ICE, but a lack of oversight of the private facility.

Just wanted to point that out those 2 things.

[Masark]

Aren't democrats the ones that love abortion and getting rid of black and brown babies? Isn't that why they purposefully setup clinics in poor neighborhoods? I think you have the wrong side on that poem.

And annouced once again announces to the world that that right-wingers don't even accept the concept of consent, much less believe it should apply to their actions,

[announced]

This is your shitty argument? This is the same as abortion? Forced sterilization is the same as a choice to have an abortion? Do you want to think about this again? I know you are a Trump supporter, but this has to be one of the most racist things I have seen on this forum so far.

again, it wasn't forced. the patient had an ovarian cyst which can be linked to ovarian cancer. Cancer is bad. Why are you denying the science that it was medically necessary to have it removed? Did you want her to keep having cancer?

[Elegiac]

again, it wasn't forced. the patient had an ovarian cyst which can be linked to ovarian cancer. Cancer is bad. Why are you denying the science that it was medically necessary to have it removed? Did you want her to keep having cancer?

"It wasn't forced" versus "it was medically necessary, therefore consent doesn't matter" are two different arguments and by extension you're just telegraphing that you're gonna deny wrongdoing regardless of the evidence. Yawn.

[announced]

"It wasn't forced" versus "it was medically necessary, therefore consent doesn't matter" are two different arguments and by extension you're just telegraphing that you're gonna deny wrongdoing regardless of the evidence. Yawn.

We still don't have any factual evidence to provide this happened, other than the word of a disgruntled employee. I'm agreeing that we should hold an investigation to determine what occurred and go from there.

[Katchii]

Oh look, those concentration camps that all the Trumplings claimed weren't concentration camps are now committing crimes against humanity. Can't wait to find out what other awful things the Trump admin has been hiding from us.

Can we impeach him now or is there a certain number of crimes we need to reach before it's acceptable?

He was impeached. But because the senate did absolutely nothing with it, nothing happened. but Donald Trump is now one of only 3 presidents to have ever been impeached.

[postman1782]

again, it wasn't forced. the patient had an ovarian cyst which can be linked to ovarian cancer. Cancer is bad. Why are you denying the science that it was medically necessary to have it removed? Did you want her to keep having cancer?

See, the problem is, that is one, but the REAL problem was, the doctor that took the ovarian cyst, isn't an OB-GYN, AND he took the WRONG FUCKING OVARY the first time. Meaning that he had to go back in and take the right one, which rendered the poor woman sterile.

And that is only one of what? 18 women that have come forward? Including others that have stated they weren't sure they needed hysterectomies?

[Specialka]

Medical records are harder to fake, same with video evidence. I thought that reasoning would be obvious to most.



I'm not a doctor, but isn't it true you don't need to be board certified to perform a pelvic exam or any of those surgeries? Based on search results it seems like a specialized surgeon is recommended, but not required.





Aren't democrats the ones that love abortion and getting rid of black and brown babies? Isn't that why they purposefully setup clinics in poor neighborhoods? I think you have the wrong side on that poem.

The 2 first arguments were reasonable and I do agree with them (medical records can be hard to fake and we need an inquiry and evidences), but the third about abortion, like what ? You live in medieval age ? Abortion should be a right and a choice.

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See, the problem is, that is one, but the REAL problem was, the doctor that took the ovarian cyst, isn't an OB-GYN, AND he took the WRONG FUCKING OVARY the first time. Meaning that he had to go back in and take the right one, which rendered the poor woman sterile.

And that is only one of what? 18 women that have come forward? Including others that have stated they weren't sure they needed hysterectomies?

1 woman would be a medical error, not a genocide or whatever and still requires an inquiry. Several woman requires an inquiry to really know what happened, but we are still far from genocide.

[Felya]

again, it wasn't forced. the patient had an ovarian cyst which can be linked to ovarian cancer. Cancer is bad. Why are you denying the science that it was medically necessary to have it removed? Did you want her to keep having cancer?

This is shitty argument... They are common and do not mean cancer. Most people deal with them through ibuprofen. Your argument is like saying your balls need to be removed, if you notice a blemish.

Here are all the steps that need to be taken, to determine the possibility, then treatment, prior to the extreme of removing a single ovary:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovarian_cyst

If the doctor didn’t follow these guidelines to determine if it’s cancer or to treat her for cancer before taking the extreme measure, you are not just confusing science with barbarism, you are celebrating being antiscience.

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See, the problem is, that is one, but the REAL problem was, the doctor that took the ovarian cyst, isn't an OB-GYN, AND he took the WRONG FUCKING OVARY the first time. Meaning that he had to go back in and take the right one, which rendered the poor woman sterile.

And that is only one of what? 18 women that have come forward? Including others that have stated they weren't sure they needed hysterectomies?

I just have to say... you fuckers are lucky you never had a loved one with cancer. This is not about cancer and it’s absolutely abhorrent to make it so. This is not how cancer diagnosis and treatment works...

Edit: Just to make it clear... if she didn’t have chemotherapy, after the cyst was removed, people making cancer arguments are just garbage people.

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1 woman would be a medical error, not a genocide or whatever and still requires an inquiry. Several woman requires an inquiry to really know what happened, but we are still far from genocide.

A cyst doesn’t usually mean a medical procedure, beyond pain management. If there are several woman that are getting complications so severe, that removal of the whole ovary is required... where even removing the cyst isn’t possible... are all coming from a similar environment. What the fuck is causing these women in Trump concentration camps, to have such a relatively rare ailment?

[Themius]

The 2 first arguments were reasonable and I do agree with them (medical records can be hard to fake and we need an inquiry and evidences), but the third about abortion, like what ? You live in medieval age ? Abortion should be a right and a choice.

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1 woman would be a medical error, not a genocide or whatever and still requires an inquiry. Several woman requires an inquiry to really know what happened, but we are still far from genocide.

So when does a genocide start, when the genocide is over? How about we throw in the 200k sterilised Peruvian women as part of America's genocide of Latin America? Is that enough for you now? How about this new batch is a continuation of the issues just 20 years ago?