Gleen Greenwald Resigns from Intercept

[Machismo]

Let's take a breath, and realize that the very same person who pushed the "food poisoning" lie is now calling g for something to be investigated.

It was investigated, which is why so many outlets decided it was toxic bullshit.

[Shalcker]

Beyond what Edge- had to say above, what I'm explicitly saying (not implicit at all) is that nothing in the supposed e-mails shows anything corrupt anyway. And they're only being pushed by people who willfully choose to ignore open corruption among those they support, demonstrating that this was never about the facts or a concern about corruption; it's just an empty smear campaign intended to try and suppress the vote.

That is tangential to wherever there was actual corruption at play.

It is quite dishonest to say that "nothing corrupt in emails" when people are going with obvious influence plays and reserve cuts. "But Biden didn't know! He never actually met them!" ; well, he could have avoided entire controversy by actually not having his kid traveling with him on Airforce Two for those business arrangements nor taking jobs in countries that depend on US aid (US aid that he explicitly used as bludgeon to get what he wanted from them).

[Elegiac]

well, he could have avoided entire controversy

Yeah, and you could also stop derailing the thread with Hunter Biden conspiracy nonsense since he is neither running for President nor is he Glenn Greenwald.

[Shalcker]

I get it would be nice for you if the media actually bought into the latest right wing talking point, but it's irrelevant since the GOP already conducted a Hunter Biden probe last year and found no evidence of wrongdoing despite their best efforts.

They had one this year that did.

I'm sure they'll pursue that further if Biden wins.

Maybe we'll get Biden impeachment too.

[Stormspellz]

That is tangential to wherever there was actual corruption at play.

It is quite dishonest to say that "nothing corrupt in emails" when people are going with obvious influence plays and reserve cuts. "But Biden didn't know! He never actually met them!" ; well, he could have avoided entire controversy by actually not having his kid traveling with him on Airforce Two for those business arrangements nor taking jobs in countries that depend on US aid (US aid that he explicitly used as bludgeon to get what he wanted from them).

I'm confused why this matters now, when Trump and co has been doing it for the last 5 years. don't worry we know the answer: dems bad, gop good.

[Elegiac]

Maybe we'll get Biden impeachment too.

Thanks for admitting you have absolutely no idea how the impeachment process works, lol.

[Shalcker]

Yeah, and you could also stop derailing the thread with Hunter Biden conspiracy nonsense since he is neither running for President nor is he Glenn Greenwald.

Hunter Biden story being noteworthy is exact point of Glenn Greenwald article, blocking of which forced his resignation.

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I'm confused why this matters now, when Trump and co has been doing it for the last 5 years. don't worry we know the answer: dems bad, gop good.

Both bad, duh. I'm not American, i don't have to fit into your tribal structures.

[Elegiac]

Hunter Biden story being noteworthy is exact point of Glenn Greenwald article, blocking of which forced his resignation.

"Greenwald said it therefore it must be true".

I recall y'all saying the same shit in the Bari Weiss thread and it was still just as ridiculous then. Rofl.

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Both bad, duh. I'm not American, i don't have to fit into your tribal structures.

That's nice, yet you still choose to anyway by pushing agitprop about the Democrats and only the Democrats.

[Stormspellz]

Hunter Biden story being noteworthy is exact point of Glenn Greenwald article, blocking of which forced his resignation.

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Both bad, duh. I'm not American, i don't have to fit into your tribal structures.

and yet you only make a case about it when its the dems, even when its conspiracy level garbage that even fox won't touch, but the trump family has been doing while he's on office, we have hatch violations, emoluments conflicts, and outright bribery being protected by barr/senate gop. but again, you seem only care when its democrats, you only peddle the bullshit when its about democrats.

So why is this important when as flimsy and ridiculous it is, why is this important when trump numerous, well documented cases doesn't even get a shrug.

[Milchshake]

"Greenwald said it therefore it must be true".

I recall y'all saying the same shit in the Bari Weiss thread and it was still just as ridiculous then. Rofl.

Did I miss a Bari Weiss thread?!? I have all of these unused snarky dunks...

But ya 2020; 'bold contrarian opinion havers" .... having very think skins. Good call, its propagandists, just pretending to be contrarian.

Contrarianism 101: Have a thick skin. Because as a contrarian, you're deliberately picking fights.

[Elegiac]

Did I miss a Bari Weiss thread?!? I have all of these unused snarky dunks...

But ya 2020; 'bold contrarian opinion havers" .... having very think skins. Good call, its propagandists, just pretending to be contrarian.

Contrarianism 101: Have a thick skin. Because as a contrarian, you're deliberately picking fights.

I'm saving them for when Bret Stephens finally gets the boot.

[Endus]

That is tangential to wherever there was actual corruption at play.

It is quite dishonest to say that "nothing corrupt in emails" when people are going with obvious influence plays and reserve cuts. "But Biden didn't know! He never actually met them!" ; well, he could have avoided entire controversy by actually not having his kid traveling with him on Airforce Two for those business arrangements nor taking jobs in countries that depend on US aid (US aid that he explicitly used as bludgeon to get what he wanted from them).

The only relevant part of that article is this;

Despite Trump's accusations, there has been no evidence of corruption on the part of the former vice president or his son.

Kudos on citing an article that explains why you're wrong in detail.

[Shalcker]

"Greenwald said it therefore it must be true".

He gives quite good argument to that end, he doesn't simply assert it. You could try reading it and forming counter-argument if you disagree.

That's nice, yet you still choose to anyway by pushing agitprop about the Democrats and only the Democrats.

There is nothing to argue about on positions that i already agree upon (like "Trump is actually corrupt and incompetent, duh").

When it goes to "But Democrats are not actually corrupt" or "But Trump is an exception, not natural result of the system" is when you start seeing me.

And as I'm left (of seize-means-of-production variety) i see this censorship going after convenient right-wing targets to be quite easily deployable against the left, and cheering censorship to be quite right-wing.

[Elegiac]

There is nothing to argue about

Being contrarian regardless of the facts isn't an admirable intellectual position.

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"But Democrats are not actually corrupt" or "But Trump is an exception, not natural result of the system"

No one has said either of these things in any of the threads you frequent, so... No. Lol.

What you're admitting to here is coming into threads and being contrarian by strawmanning.

[Felya]

They had one this year that did.

I'm sure they'll pursue that further if Biden wins.

Maybe we'll get Biden impeachment too.

Joe Biden is running for President, you can’t impeach his son... are GOP done with impeaching Obama?

13 events resulting in GOP demanding Obama be impeached:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effort...h_Barack_Obama

Trump demanding Obama be impeached this year:

[Doctor Amadeus]

Another I am terrible at my fucking job, so I am going to blame everyone else edge lord attention seeker disguised as a reporter, he ought to fit right in on the Alt-Right. He's Dave Rubin 4 Years ago LOL

[postman1782]

Ah, the Russian propagandists have returned. 'Glorious Leader sends reinforcements to support Lowly Leader by spreading disinformation'.

Regular reminder that Russia needs to be sanctioned and their citizens shut off from the global web. That'll teach them.
[Infraction]

I don't know why this was infracted, he is only speaking the truth.

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Greenwald resigns and then goes to hang out and tell a sob story on Tucker Carlson?

That's like...the most boringly predictable move he could have made. I'm disappointed in him for not having some creativity.

Well, Tucker had to have someone on after his bullshit of a story about Hunter Biden fell apart.

[SirBeef]

hmmmm https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/securit...eluge-n1245387

only rubes fall for this shit

We know. They publicly admit to being them all the time here.

[Orange Joe]

How exactly do you know for sure that someone is lying versus someone just having different opinions?

Most people, when they have to make such judgements on text media, go with projection. "If i was who i think he is i would be lying here". That is obviously quite error-prone - both on "who i think he is" and on "lying is how such people go" parts.

Generally by their history. if they have a habit of telling false stories chances are they are lying

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Yes, it would be nice if media actually investigated this.

If they never actually got funds then obviously no "Biden-getting-his-cut documents" could ever be produced. It was discussed none the less.

Because i like looking at different perspectives and steelmanning them for better understanding.

Why? They aren't the police.

[Shalcker]

Why? They aren't the police.

It's called investigative journalism. Dying breed (much easier to simply regurgitate opinion of "current or former officials"), but still remembered by some.

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Being contrarian regardless of the facts isn't an admirable intellectual position.

Where do you see "regardless of facts" though?

Fact are:
Laptop story is likely fake, one way or another.
Laptop content has proven to be true; it might mean less then Republicans tout it to be, but it does paint picture of usual (rather then exceptional) US corruption.

No one has said either of these things in any of the threads you frequent, so... No. Lol.

Sadly, people do that.

What you're admitting to here is coming into threads and being contrarian by strawmanning.

By steelmanning right-wing positions to show weakness of your own.