Warning for using broadcast softare, Razer?

[mrxten]

Hi,

So i got a warning but never used any softare besides razer mouse - keyboard software. This for the light etc

Anyone know if this is against TOS?

[Kagthul]

Hi,

So i got a warning but never used any softare besides razer mouse - keyboard software. This for the light etc

Anyone know if this is against TOS?

It isn't, but Warden (the spy program Blizzard installs when you install any of their games) probably thinks it is broadcast software because its programmed like shit and spikes tons of false positives.

[Schattenlied]

Are you using it to automate multiple actions with 1 key press through it's macro software? If so, that's against the TOS.

[Kagthul]

Are you using it to automate multiple actions with 1 key press through it's macro software? If so, that's against the TOS.

This as well. If you're using any of the Keyboard's macro functions, Warden will catch that.

[mrxten]

thanks for all the replies. I'm not using it to config any macros etc, just for keyboard light and mouse. I have escalated it to blizzard but it's a long queue

[Baneto]

Imagine gettting banned for having a certain brand of mouse/keyboard, Blizzard must be getting desperate.

[Kumorii]

Imagine gettting banned for having a certain brand of mouse/keyboard, Blizzard must be getting desperate.

Desperate when it comes to...? Losing customers by banning through false positives?

[Baneto]

Desperate when it comes to...? Losing customers by banning through false positives?

Desperate to catch players using multiboxing-software.

[Rusken]

Desperate to catch players using multiboxing-software.

It's nothing like that at all. Their auto-checker Warden scans your background programs and flags anything that it detects as even slightly fishy. A guildie of mine got a week ban 'cause he was writing code for his Uni course while AFKing in Org for buffs (He appealed and was unbanned a day later). It's a really shitty system to be fair, but it probably catches a lot more bots than they ever could by manually checking that stuff.

[Kaiser499]

I think it's dumb after all these years it's no longer allowed, it must be cutting into their bottom line somehow now.

[kranur]

Hi,

So i got a warning but never used any softare besides razer mouse - keyboard software. This for the light etc

Anyone know if this is against TOS?

Depends on what you did. Making a macro that clicks or presses a button or a series of buttons every few seconds is an automated thing and it IS against tos. Doesn't matter that the software is provided by Razer or Autoclick

This has always been the case and it's not a new thing.

[windoth]

Imagine gettting banned for having a certain brand of mouse/keyboard, Blizzard must be getting desperate.

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard anyone say about anything.

[Cæli]

it's allowed... it was clear, you can not broadcoast inputs to MULTIPLE windows
as far as I know razer doesn't do that at all
however DONT use macros in razer

[Baneto]

It's nothing like that at all. Their auto-checker Warden scans your background programs and flags anything that it detects as even slightly fishy. A guildie of mine got a week ban 'cause he was writing code for his Uni course while AFKing in Org for buffs (He appealed and was unbanned a day later). It's a really shitty system to be fair, but it probably catches a lot more bots than they ever could by manually checking that stuff.

I agree that Warden has huge flaws, thats the reason so many people get erronemous bans.

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard anyone say about anything.

Burner account with 2 posts, yeah not gonna bite.

[ClassicPeon]

It's nothing like that at all. Their auto-checker Warden scans your background programs and flags anything that it detects as even slightly fishy. A guildie of mine got a week ban 'cause he was writing code for his Uni course while AFKing in Org for buffs (He appealed and was unbanned a day later). It's a really shitty system to be fair, but it probably catches a lot more bots than they ever could by manually checking that stuff.

You dont get banned for writing code.

Yo u could possibly get banned for running that code if it interacts with your wow client though. Your mate probably lied to you

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Imagine gettting banned for having a certain brand of mouse/keyboard, Blizzard must be getting desperate.

You realise ofc that its not the brand or the model that got him banned right?

[Ealyssa]

I use a naga with the razer programm since the launch of the very first one in 2009 (updated to the old V2 Naga, which still works great), always played wow since then.
Asked a friend just now who also use one.
No flagging on us.

I doubt the Razer thing is the cause of your issue...

[Spazzix]

99.999% not razer unless you've configured it to do things like automation or tampered with the process somehow.

What is far more likely: either you're clueless about what's actually running on your computer or you're fishing for ideas to get around a legitimate ban. Orrrr you're just trying to stir crap up cause why not? Weak.

Edit: if someone reading this was unfairly banned and successfully appealed, please don't go around posting ideas that will help out cheaters.

[Frosteye]

It's nothing like that at all. Their auto-checker Warden scans your background programs and flags anything that it detects as even slightly fishy. A guildie of mine got a week ban 'cause he was writing code for his Uni course while AFKing in Org for buffs (He appealed and was unbanned a day later). It's a really shitty system to be fair, but it probably catches a lot more bots than they ever could by manually checking that stuff.

This is why I always code in a VM ^_^

[mrxten]

Thanks for all the answers.

I did not get banned, if some of you diden't get it.

I'm only using the Razer program for light, to keyboard and Mouse. My ticket towards blizzard got answered but they said i can use any razer program as long as i do not use any type of broadcast, which ofc i have not. I think there's a flaw somewhere.. i have uninstalled the Razer Central app however.

[Vaulton05]

Personally I have used Razer Repeater Macros for years with no issues.
The way I’ve always understood it is 1 Button Press = 1 Action.
Repeater Macros are fine. Sequence Macros are not, such as the addon “Gnomesequencer Enhanced”.


Repeater Macro Example: Hold 1 down to repeat Sinister Strike on (0.5) second intervals or w.e the GCD is. Or set it to toggle - Hit 1 then release and it spams sinister strike on interval until 1 is pressed again to cancel.

Sequence Example: Press 1 - Change to battle stance, cast thunder clap, wait 1s and then changes back to defensive, cast demo shout. This is 1 keypress = multiple actions

Ability = Action

As long as you aren’t using more than 1 ability per macro is the rule of thumb

Using a macro to spam Sinister Strike for example is still 1 key to 1 action - you are repeating the same action. The moment I put an Eviscerate in at the 10 second mark it becomes a sequencer. There was an old post somewhere from Blizzard stating their logic/justification. I remember part of it had to do with repeater macros being utilized by physically handicapped players.

I have heard many say that “action” actually means GCD. I don’t believe that is accurate. In any case I’ve never had any issues and most abilities on my bars are repeater macros. For example on my mage I can press down 1 for frostbolt and just hold it down to continually cast frostbolts until oom. If warden was going to trip it would have by now.