Superman & Lois

[Beloren]

Here it is guys, release date is February 2021




And these are the two sons: Jonathan and Jordan




I had a quick look at the comic story it is based on, but it's only vaguely similar. In the comic, Superman and Lois only have 1 son, not two, and the multiverse is back up with another superman and lois lane already existing in that universe forcing them to take the name White instead - but that's not going to fly to day... not woke enough.


So, not sure where they got Jordan from, or what role he will play, we shall see though.

At least for a change Superman is not going to be a dead beat dad. But it looks like the focus is parenthood drama, which is odd for the CW, I thought the focus would be on the teenagers largely since they're 15/16 which is the typical age to start a nice 7 season teen drama.

Could be interesting if balanced well.. haha who am i kidding...

But it's in the same continuity /universe as the rest of the arrowverse - so we have Flash, Supergirl, Legends, Black Lightning, Batwoman, Stargirl and the new Arrow show all in the same continuity.

hmmm.. Flash and Black lightning are male leads
Supergirl, Legends, Batwoman, Stargirl and the new Green Arrow are female leads

Although titled Superman and Lois, Lois is getting the leading character roles, but, they gave them two sons instead of a son and a daughter. And there is Sarah ofc, which is the 3rd teen, Lang's daughter.#

I wonder who the LGBT character would be... I would have said Sarah, but they already have both Batwoman and Supergirl with the lesbian characters, so they'd probably make one of the son's gay or bisexual. I reckon it would be Jordan, the quiet reserved one, who will turn out to be adopted - but the truly woke option would be to make Jonathan, like a gay superboy - the only problem is they could have a love triangle between the two boys and Sarah, so making any of the 3 gay removes that option. There is a very remote 3rd option, if the two brothers fall in love in the advent that it turns out Jordan is adopted - but that would be a new low for mainstream TV programming, I don't think they'd go there.

On the law of averages, this may be a male centric show, given how the rest of the roster is very female heavy, and teh title being Superman and Lois rather than Lois and Clarke or Lois and Superman might be the giveaway.

It is said of the lads:

Also set to appear in this new show are Jordan Elsass and Alexander Garfin, who will play Clark and Lois’ teenage sons Jonathan and Jordan. Deadline reports that Jonathan, played by Elsass, is “clean-cut, modest and kind-hearted, with an aw-shucks attitude that somehow doesn’t seem dated”.

Jordan, played by Garfin, is described as “wildly intelligent, but his mercurial temperament and social anxiety limits his interactions with people… Jordan prefers to spend most of his free time alone”.

"clean cut" huh, I hope they just keep it normal, we haven't had a regular show with regular characters for a while, let clean cut be clean cut, and mercurial be mercurial - I do suspect Jordan will be an adopted son, probably Lex's son or some sort of genetic experiment like Connor. But if he is a biological son, I wonder if they'll give him powers - probably not, because he's male and he can't be both genius levels smart and powerful, that's reserved only for female leads

This is Lana Lang - Emmanuelle Chriqui


Her daughter Sarah:


Wole Parks is the apparent villain


Erik Valdez is Lana's husband


Looks like he's gonna have a grudge against the Kent's, or at least Lois cos she's a city gal and he hates city types, either that or it's a set up against the Strangers


finally Dylan Walsh is playing Lois' father


This is a change from Glen Morshower who appeared as Lois' father in Supergirl, but the Crisis can explain the change, so I guess that isn't a problem.


Here is what Raido times had to say about the show:
https://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2...-release-date/

[Queen of Hamsters]

I don't know, but since Cavill, I just can't see anyone else in that role and take him seriously...
Doesn't help that this looks campy as all hell.

[Shadowferal]

I'm done with the cw...
Was Stargirl any good?
I had hopes for Black Lightning but that just felt so damn rushed. Story development was clunky as hell...

[Beloren]

I'm done with the cw...
Was Stargirl any good?
I had hopes for Black Lightning but that just felt so damn rushed. Story development was clunky as hell...

I wasn’t able to watch Star girl past the first episode.

Black Lightning was enjoyable, even good at times, though a bit too corny too. I haven’t finished the latest season.

It’s so odd for a CW show to have Male leads and Male stars these days. But this Superman show has more sausage than pie. So it will be curious to see. Because they did establish Supergirl as the superior Kryptonian in Supergirl I can only assume this will be the case in this continuum, but that could have been primarily because Kara has to be the star in her own show. So this might change in Superman & Lois

I also wonder if the show means the end of more Cavil Superman movies.

[Ivanstone]

I don't know, but since Cavill, I just can't see anyone else in that role and take him seriously...
Doesn't help that this looks campy as all hell.

Cavill might be one of the most talented actors to ever play Superman.

His Superman is still one of the worst.

Hell they gave Brandon Routh a do-over and in 15 minutes he was better than Cavill was across 3 movies.

[Shadowferal]

"Man of Steel" deserves a sequel.

[Ivanstone]

"Man of Steel" deserves a sequel.

It got a sequel. It stunk.

Except for the parts with Wonder Woman and Jeremy Irons trolling the shit out of Batman.

[Beloren]

It got a sequel. It stunk.

Except for the parts with Wonder Woman and Jeremy Irons trolling the shit out of Batman.

I quite enjoyed Cavil's Superman. it was ... different .. I liked the reaslim of the effects and the grittiness. how they did krypton and explained the science too, I didn't like the way they re-wrote some of his history though, or the killing of Jimmy Olsen so quickly. I liked Clarke being a gritty service man before going to the Daily Planet, he felt a lot more realistic.

there were some very good things about it and bad things. But overall I liked it alot. It took superman from a less idealistic fantasy to somethign that felt a bit more realistic, which is good to balance is extraordinary self.

Also, Superman has never felt more powerful as he is in this incarnation, I hope they keep it, becuase overall i like it. I hope they don't do yet an other reset, just stick with this one for this generation.

[Egomaniac]

Also, Superman has never felt more powerful as he is in this incarnation

Really? You think Man of Steel Superman is the "most powerful" incarnation of Superman?

He's not even the most powerful live-action Superman.

The Reeves/Routh Superman is much more powerful.

He reversed the flow of time to save Lois.

He lifted an entire island made out of Kryptonite, threw it into space, and crashed back to earth in a weakened condition and survived.

Cavill Superman got his ass kicked by Batman with a Kryptonite Spear. And then stupidly charged Doomsday with that same Kryptonite Spear...when he could have just handed it to WW.

[Ivanstone]

Cavill Superman got his ass kicked by Batman with a Kryptonite Spear. And then stupidly charged Doomsday with that same Kryptonite Spear...when he could have just handed it to WW.

To be fair the Cavill Superman did have to contend with a vulnerability that the other incarnations didn’t have to deal with: Being written by Zack Snyder.

[Monster Hunter]

Meh the CW is region locked, so to watch it would mean id need to use my crappy vpn and pre buffer it, there very few shows worth that hassle so ill pass on this, dosbt look like something id be interested in anyway from the trailer.

And as pelple are talking about it, From the shows i have bothered to try from the CW, apart from supernatural, most of the shows have had the same foudational flaw, and its hard to find a word to describe it so ill throw some out, stright white woke, champaign socialist drama, safe woke, risqué without risk, boring.

If some one comes to me and asked for a single Media company that sums up the American arts i would point them at the CW. Corporate sanitized safe packaged wokeness, inclusive without inclusion, boring safe narratives wrapped in a package to look risqué. Better than Disney tokenism, but still decades behind Europe.

[Egomaniac]

If some one comes to me and asked for a single Media company that sums up the American arts i would point them at the CW. Corporate sanitized safe packaged wokeness, inclusive without inclusion, boring safe narratives wrapped in a package to look risqué. Better than Disney tokenism, but still decades behind Europe.

An impossible Task. There is no one media company that sums up the American Arts. Nor is there one for Europe.

[Ielenia]

Also, Superman has never felt more powerful as he is in this incarnation,

Did you forget the "wall-building vision" power the Superman of old had? And how he was so fast to run around the planet multiple times in the span of a few seconds, fast enough to make the Earth rotation to go in reverse and go back in time?

[Dread Pirate Phayde]

The CW Superman looks like the Great Value (Walmart) brand, and Cavill is like the brand name.

I keep saying I was going to start watching the CW superhero shows, but I've heard so many mixed things about them.

[ONCHEhap]

An impossible Task. There is no one media company that sums up the American Arts. Nor is there one for Europe.

I don't think you understood his point

[Ivanstone]

The CW Superman looks like the Great Value (Walmart) brand, and Cavill is like the brand name.

I keep saying I was going to start watching the CW superhero shows, but I've heard so many mixed things about them.

I watched all of the Arrowverse. They’re generally fine although none of them are consistent. They mostly suffer from filler episodes but that’s not abnormal for shows with 20+ episode seasons. Legends of Tomorrow is the best of them although you’ll have to get past the bland first season. They’ve settled into this parody-homage schtick which is usually a lot of fun to watch. Black Lightning is the second best. It’s got a pretty good energy to it and they’re tighter since the season lengths are shorter.

[PACOX]

I can't watch a happy Superman. You just have a 'super man' which is boring.

[Monster Hunter]

Meh the CW is region locked, so to watch it would mean id need to use my crappy vpn and pre buffer it, there very few shows worth that hassle so ill pass on this, dosbt look like something id be interested in anyway from the trailer.

And as pelple are talking about it, From the shows i have bothered to try from the CW, apart from supernatural, most of the shows have had the same foudational flaw, and its hard to find a word to describe it so ill throw some out, stright white woke, champaign socialist drama, safe woke, risqué without risk, boring.

If some one comes to me and asked for a single Media company that sums up the American arts i would point them at the CW. Corporate sanitized safe packaged wokeness, inclusive without inclusion, boring safe narratives wrapped in a package to look risqué. Better than Disney tokenism, but still decades behind Europe.

[Shadowferal]

I quite enjoyed Cavil's Superman. it was ... different .. I liked the reaslim of the effects and the grittiness. how they did krypton and explained the science too, I didn't like the way they re-wrote some of his history though, or the killing of Jimmy Olsen so quickly. I liked Clarke being a gritty service man before going to the Daily Planet, he felt a lot more realistic.

He's the first Superman that was relatable. The others...not so much.

[Dread Pirate Phayde]

I watched all of the Arrowverse. They’re generally fine although none of them are consistent. They mostly suffer from filler episodes but that’s not abnormal for shows with 20+ episode seasons. Legends of Tomorrow is the best of them although you’ll have to get past the bland first season. They’ve settled into this parody-homage schtick which is usually a lot of fun to watch. Black Lightning is the second best. It’s got a pretty good energy to it and they’re tighter since the season lengths are shorter.

I did watch the first season of Supergirl when it was on CBS, but once it moved to the CW I didn't pick it back up as there was no local CW and their app went to shit. I know it was a little campy, but considering I grew up with the A-Team and Knight Rider, I don't mind a little camp.