Warcraft Radio Interview with Chris Kaleiki

[Railander]

> A lot of the time it isn't the core classes that affect PvP balance. It's an outlying item. These are done by an entirely different team and sometimes the PvP team doesn't always catch it until it's live.

what a blatant lie.
it implies that:

1) there is an effort to nerf OP things for PvP before it goes live
2) they don't always catch it before it goes live

if that was true, please give me 1 single example where this actually happened. i'll be waiting.
this literally never happened, ever.
therefore there is no effort whatsoever to nerf OP things for PvP before it goes live, and therefore they never catch it.

[Biomega]

And yet when they had the loot system where WQs and other means were more viable people screamed like they were being insulted. They screamed when there were badges because "WE'RE FORCED TO DO IT." this player base has an issue where if there's no gear reward it might as well not exist. When there's a choice to do something to get a gear reward it is no longer a choice but blizzard putting a gun to their head demanding they do it. (Well blizzard doesn't but they act like they do.)

There's more nuance to it than it just existing, though. HOW it works is also important, if not more important. Titanforging made more gearing options viable, which was good; but it had a huge RNG factor to it, which was bad. It wasn't the solution that was needed to open up more avenues - but effectively closing those avenues by making the gear completely irrelevant isn't the answer, either.

There's more to this than some binary of two extremes.

[Grimalkin of Old]

Chris thinks that they have done a good job with this in Shadowlands for the most part.

Oh, honey ...

[Aggressive]

The trick is to make sure you learn from past challenges and designs that didn't work out, but not to go too far in the other direction.


LoL. This is the part where I spit out my coffee this morning laughing. Blizzard has NEVER learned from their past mistakes. Stale classes with boring ass rental powers. Yeah that is learning... ������

[Yayeet]

I have no problem with that, if it WAS that. It's not. There has never been more pressure on people to raid, if they want good gear. World quests or whatever aren't competitive, and so it isn't a REAL choice.

You get barely any loot from raiding at the moment, raids are not rewarding right now.

The only content that's truly rewarding is PvP, spam up your rating, and buy easy 213+ pieces every week.

Starting next week you can upgrade your honor gear to nearly normal castle item level.

[erifwodahs]

> A lot of the time it isn't the core classes that affect PvP balance. It's an outlying item. These are done by an entirely different team and sometimes the PvP team doesn't always catch it until it's live.

what a blatant lie.
it implies that:

1) there is an effort to nerf OP things for PvP before it goes live
2) they don't always catch it before it goes live

if that was true, please give me 1 single example where this actually happened. i'll be waiting.
this literally never happened, ever.
therefore there is no effort whatsoever to nerf OP things for PvP before it goes live, and therefore they never catch it.

maybe.... just maybe....... you don't know about it because IT WAS CAUGHT BEFORE GOING LIVE?
Do you think Samsung QA does never catch faults in their devices because they had few flawed models out? Or maybe you just don't know about the times they do?
I mean your claim has no ground and is false. Go look at beta/ptr changes. "Never happened" lol.

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NO IT ISN'T, THIS IS LITERALLY YOUR JOB TO ANSWER.

Players have zero choice in this. I can't just decide "this week, I'll gear through World Quests", because those items - even when they're available - are absolutely useless. That's not a choice, in any meaningful way.

This is insulting.

WQs are not real choice but you can decide to raid, pvp or m+. Choice is there. It might suck but it's there. Saying there is no player choice is dishonest.

[chrisnumbers]

To say players get a choice...is just dishonest...and insulting

No you're wrong.

[Aggrophobic]

So in other words: He has never played the game he is supposed to "design".

[sadpvpplayer]

so blablabla they have no clue about the game and we completly fucked GG blizz

instead of losing all devs with a clue about the game start fckn HIRE PPL!!!!!!! or just fckn ask the best pvp players from each class what to do if u so fckn clueless and dont want listen to community -.-

WE CAN ONLY HOPE RIOT BRINGS OUT THEIR NEW MMORPG SOON!!!!!!!

[Frozenbeef]

What a bunch of bull crud.

[Laqweeta]

Oh, honey ...

Brain-Fucking-Dead

Get them outta here please.

[kamuimac]

this interview proves that they do not care about players having fun in game

they careo nly about delaying rewards to keep your subs going .

its abysmal game design - not wonder SL is already rated as worst WoW expansion ever .

[ParanoiD84]

They havnt even fixed the bugg with the cheatdeath lifeseed thingy with night fae where if you die in torghast with that your unable to move and your run is finished. Ruined 2 runs for me so far so yeah of course i dont run with that anymore there but still should have been fixed by now.

[Huntermyth]

* Unfortunately, sometimes PvP balance can fall in priority. It rises when something is really bad or there is a tournament.
* You don't want to make too many huge changes before a tournament.

am i the only one who sees a huge irony here ?

[h8ryan]

Didn't limit have like an average gear of 220 for their mythic denathrius kill? people are acting like it's impossible to get gear in game rn but the fact is they're just not good enough to get gear in a timely matter, which is perfectly fine

quit crying that you're not fully geared when the raid will still be around for another 5 months when you also cry that you got fully geared in 2 weeks, I swear this forum is filled with petulant children

[prwraith]

So much time talking about pvp...who the hell cares

Focus on the important part of the game, the pve part. Whether pvp stops being in the game or not is irrelevant.

[Spacewalrus2010]

I enjoy these interviews. Get some interesting takes from Blizz employees. Some good, some bad.

Then you have the MMO-C comment section where people are acting like Chris Kaleiki murdered their mom.

Fun times.

[cateran100]

"The trick is to make sure you learn from past challenges and designs that didn't work out, but not to go too far in the other direction."

After 16 years maybe time to start to do it ehh?

[Aggressive]

"The trick is to make sure you learn from past challenges and designs that didn't work out, but not to go too far in the other direction."

After 16 years maybe time to start to do it ehh?

That is what I have been saying. He made Blizzard look like a complete ass when he said this part. Like when are they going to start ?

[Crixes1]

What pisses me off the most is doing 14 mythic +'s and only getting 2 drops period.