Its not even the first Classic Atiesh. I have already seen multiple on my realm. Its just the first one who brags about it. Sad.
Its not even the first Classic Atiesh. I have already seen multiple on my realm. Its just the first one who brags about it. Sad.
Funny how Atiesh is only slightly better than the staff he is already using lol. And even has less intellect. It's a freaking legendary. It should also be a legendary upgrade, even if it makes casters dominate over other classes for there being no legendary for them.
As for the ban, that just sucks. If there is a recent (Or unannounced) rule change, a warning should be applied instead of perma. I wonder why the reddit post has so few karma. I guess everyone just hates boosters. I've started to kinda hate them as well after having to report more than 50 of them every day for using the LFG tool.
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Great to hear that blizzard finally started reacting. Why have the report feature if the only goal is to ignore it. I'm guessing once enough people report a character(let's be honest they're just mass produced low level characters) spamming trade chat with boosts and what they act now. I'll use the term "spamming" loosely because most of them have a script that says whatever every minute or so. It all is starting to make sense. Noticed a drop of chat activity in trade(boost sells) on my server couldn't figure out what it was until I found this.
r/wow is just full of self-righteous casuals, I heard people had to make "competitivewow" subreddit to talk about stuff like raid strats and weak auras and sims because they were treated with "lol nerd get a life" attitude on the main sub.
Reddit also shows why mmo-champ should NOT get upvotes and downvotes, it's just a huge circlejerk in there, any sub (not only wow related) has usually bandwagoners that downvote everything that doesn't agree with the main narrative of that sub.
To be honest, I've checked that thread and this was the best commentary to the whole situation:
It's a hypocritical attitude because if everyone was condemning boosting as much as they claim, boosters would go out of business because nobody would be buying it. Meanwhile it's thriving because a lot of these people openly scoff at boosts but silently buy them.A good lesson to be learned that carries through to the real world as well: No one cares if you are treated unfairly, unlawfully, etc. if the thing you're doing is something people don't like.
It's the same thing as people who openly claim sex workers are immoral but somehow don't mind going to strip clubs and hiring "escorts". But if someone robbed, raped or beaten a prostitute, how many people would sympathize with her instead of claiming she asked for it when she chose that job.
Blizzard legalized boosts because it increases token sales - players who want a boost often don't have enough gold and buy it. On the other hand, Blizzard doesn't care to treat the boosting with any proper care, that includes harassing and banning the boosters for random reasons, and refusing to help boost buyers if they get scammed.
To be honest, their customer support policies are awful, not only they refuse to help in 90% of types of problems / disputes because they don't want to deal with it (scams, loot disputes, guild disputes, wrongful silences / votekicks, bugged quests, lost achievements), but when they actually decide to get involved, it's a complete roulette whether you get a helpful GM, an asshole GM, or a GM that would maybe want to help you but is so damn clueless about the product he's working in it's a waste of time. It's much more likely that if your character is bugged in some way that you'll 1) figure out solution by yourself 2) figure the solution by googling it, than a GM having an idea wtf are you talking about.
No clue why do you need years upon years of experience of working in customer support before they'd even consider hiring you as a GM, but players have to wait days for an answer and then the quality of it is as if the service was outsourced to interns in 3rd world country.
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[QUOTE=Otaka;52932739]You forgot one crucial detail: Classic is NOT Vanilla. Its merely a remake.
People have been saying this forever and then when someone goes "World First on Classic" people like you go "reeee its not world first this was done in 2005", when it couldnt have been done since classic was released in 2019.
Stop treating them as the same game... its basically a remake but not for graphics. The whole classic is built on modern client architecture so alot of the vanilla specific "features" are no longer present... even the native 400ms lag is no longer possible and thats why blizzard artificially added it. (servers were slower back then, and so were internet connections, among other things)
And as you said everyone knows every strat for bosses... so its not the same game from community standpoint either.
That blaring word "Classic" should be enough for people to understand its not the same game.
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"Is not the same game" "Is a remake"
That literaly dosent make sense. Yes is a re-make, with the same values, same strats, same everything. SO?
World First literaly means noone else got to do that before... Thousands have beaten Naxx40 before, hence NOT WORLD FIRST...
Not only that.. it even has less merit because is achieved with much better technology... Naxx40 is literaly easier now, not because of the game itself, but because of the machines we get to play on, and the current internet speeds....
You guys are so stupid, clinging to that "oh yeah we are world firsts" ... why?
If someone already did it, and you got to read all the strats online, watch videos of it... you are NOT world first... Oh because the company copy pasted the game to new servers? Seriously?
Honestly, you guys just insulting the real world first, the OG players that had to learn and develop the strats themselves. You just walking on their steps, and trying to claim some way of "glory"... why?
While I don't agree with the manner in which @MrPaladinGuy is advancing their opinion, I do share in the sentiment: It is not newsworthy. Anything that was newsworthy for classic WoW took place during those said days. An emulator doesn't matter simply by virtue of it being an emulator -- not quite the same game with players that today benefit from so much more than what was available to them in yesteryear. (I should know since I played classic when it was current.)
It may be an accomplishment in some circles, to be sure, but a feat it is not.
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With regards to the incident over advertising accounts, I find it puzzling that so many are responding to it with their opinion on advertising in general rather than sticking to the main points of this specific case. Regardless of how one feels about boosting, the OP on r/wow contended that the rules were changed without making people aware of it before-hand and it being applied unevenly.
While I personally don't care much (if at all) for boosting and feel that there were some very important details left out by that OP, I do find the argument concerning. It's good that Blizzard has since made their stance more explicit, but I have to wonder at the manner in which the company has gone about it. You'll notice that while this news post displays the policy update as a blue post, it's not an actual blue post -- at least not in how the term "blue post" is typically used. Clicking on the link takes you to a support article that indicates it was updated yesterday, but other than that Blizzard has been rather quiet about it all. Hopefully they'll prove to be more vocal about it in the near future.
That sounds entirely subjective tbh. I haven't cared about classic since I've stopped after clearing T1 consistently and got bored. I still acknowledge that Classic has its base that are very much in love with that version of WoW.
Atiesh maybe have been done in 2005 but the post clearly states "Classic WoW". Jokerd reached world first 60 in Classic, APES did world first Rag/Only kill in Classic, don't know nor care about the other first clear achievements but they still exist.
The wise wolf who's pride is her wisdom isn't so sharp as drunk.
The only reason boosting communities exist is to make REAL MONEY TRADES.
Do you really think someone creates websites, addons and makes billions of gold to buy themselves a mount, boe or buy some pots for a raid?
The sole purpose of boosting communities is that some few individuals can pay their rent.
So I'm not sure why they're allowed anyway.
And i definitely feel not sorry for this guy.
But yeah, I'd do it too if it's profitable enough.
But don't cry in public when your illegal business gets shot down, that's just silly.
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Assuming you're not a troll, why is this so important to you?
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Everything is newsorthy if there are enough people who find interest in it. If you dont find it interesting, it is fine.
This is, by definition, newsworthy.
So only warlocks can use it that explains why i been seeing a influx of that class lately.
It was never said It's not a matter of "no one cares" - rather, "there's nothing to celebrate here, stop pretending like there is."
We can get into the bigger discussion of Classic being the same thing as vanilla, except Classic is really a "safe space" and not really as competitive as everyone claims it to be.
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I think the point the person you are quoting is trying to say is just because the game got "rereleased" does not mean that every time someone gets XYZ item or kills XYZ boss that it counts as a "world first" or similar title. This is essentially a "private" server, just run by the 1st party instead of a 3rd party team.
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