Capitol Insurrection / rebellion thread

[Lenonis]

Yeah, I know... he’s also reportedly not leaving Biden the traditional handwritten, ‘rooting for you’ departure note.

Not exactly shocking, and definitely expected.

I have no doubt Biden and his camp are actually quite relieved that Trump is skipping the inauguration and not leaving a 4th grade at best letter for him to read. I'm sure the less contact Biden has with Trump the happier Biden is.

What I'm sure is a concern (and I have no reason to doubt the reporting on this) is the concerns about the blocked information flow. The biden camp is reportedly very concerned about what they are walking into and what they'll find on Day 1.

I really hope Biden is willing to let all of the gory details of the mess and disaster the Trump administration left go public. I know he himself is trying to stay above the fray but that doesn't mean he can't let someone else leak the details. If nothing else to country deserves to know just how much the Trump administration screwed us.

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If Trump pardons his coup-conspirators

The only and I mean ONLY reason I think this won't happen is someone likely told trump that sort of pardon would likely put him in more legal jeopardy than he's in and cement his impeachment in the Senate.

Because at the end of the day the only person Trump cares about is himself. He wants to do the pardon to keep his base and the optics and praise he'd get, but not at the expense of being convicted in the senate or put in legal jeopardy.

But then again Trump is an utter moron who is raging out so who knows what he'll actually do.

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It's true. He's a vegan and his mother said that he gets weally weally sick in his little tummy wummy if he doesn't get organic food

And yet they call liberals snowflakes. Is there anything they don't project?

[Cthulhu 2020]

And an eye for an eye is hurting the other side with the same thing they did to you. Not that much difference.

Just giving a counter sound to the echo chamber

Not even what I said. Lots of stats out there that white Americans tend to commit about the same number of crimes as blacks. They just tend to go unreported or unpoliced because of police leniency. Imagine if law enforcement treated all skin color equally for once. Conservatives often point to crime statistics about blacks being charged more for crime as some kind of justification for saying they're more likely to be criminals, and yet in many surveys, those admitting they have either shoplifted before or smoked weed is approximately equal between white and black America. It's just greatly more policed among the dark skinned populace.

It's not "eye for an eye" it's "imagine if the law enforcement agencies actually treated everyone equally. It'll be funny to watch all the squealing as soon as white law breakers are suddenly held accountable for the actions they thought they could get away with."

A lot of the people who raided the capitol building on Jan 6th thought they could do it then just quietly return home without consequence. Really puts on naked display just how much confidence they had in thinking that they wouldn't get punished. It's even more reinforced by all of the whinging they're making about being arrested and being called what they are - terrorists.

[Felya]

A lot of the people who raided the capitol building on Jan 6th thought they could do it then just quietly return home without consequence. Really puts on naked display just how much confidence they had in thinking that they wouldn't get punished. It's even more reinforced by all of the whinging they're making about being arrested and being called what they are - terrorists.

Just to point this out... when the Juggalos marched on Washington for being identified as a terrorist group... they seemed a lot nicer...



Juggalos > Trump supporters

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https://apnews.com/article/12-guard-...25352df50de294

Twelve U.S. Army National Guard members have been removed from the presidential inauguration security mission after they were found to have ties with right-wing militia groups or posted extremist views online, according to two U.S. officials. There was no threat to President-elect Joe Biden, they said.

The officials, a senior intelligence official and an Army official briefed on the matter, did not say which fringe group the Guard members belonged to or what unit they served in. The officials were not authorized to speak publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

Their removal from the massive security presence at the nation’s capital comes as the FBI worked to vet all of the 25,000 National Guard troops headed to the area for Biden’s inauguration Wednesday. U.S. defense officials have been worried about a potential insider attack or other threat from service members following the deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol Jan. 6 by Trump supporters that shocked the nation.

Acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller said in a statement Monday that vetting of National Guard troops continues and that the Pentagon has found no intelligence so far that would indicate an insider threat.

I have precisely zero problems rooting out people who are a part of of sympathize with extremist groups from the National Guard, even if they do not pose a present threat.

[Hadriker]

"The mob was fed lies," McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, said on the Senate floor. "They were provoked by the President and other powerful people."l

And now we have McConnell outright calling out the President for his role in instigating the attempted insurrection on the 6th. It feels like he is laying the groundwork for the Establishment GOP Senators to distance themselves from Trump and to give them the ok to vote for impeachment if they so choose.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...89649.html?amp

Weird, so the homophobic "straight pride" group was present at the riots? Never would have thought that a bunch of homophobes would also be insurrectionist fucks. Actually, this is very obvious, who am I kidding.

[beanman12345]

"The mob was fed lies," McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, said on the Senate floor. "They were provoked by the President and other powerful people."l

And now we have McConnell outright calling out the President for his role in instigating the attempted insurrection on the 6th. It feels like he is laying the groundwork for the Establishment GOP Senators to distance themselves from Trump and to give them the ok to vote for impeachment if they so choose.

Corporations are done with Trump's brand of GoP. They want him gone from the party and are signaling to McConnel and the establishment to rid the party of the cancer. Citizens United. Arguably the worst thing in US politics is potentially play a big part in ending Trumpism. Problem is, Trump is a symptom, the angry mob fed bullshit from social media and fox and all the other right wing bs media will keep chugging along and a new cult leader will arise.

[Zan15]

"The mob was fed lies," McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, said on the Senate floor. "They were provoked by the President and other powerful people."l

And now we have McConnell outright calling out the President for his role in instigating the attempted insurrection on the 6th. It feels like he is laying the groundwork for the Establishment GOP Senators to distance themselves from Trump and to give them the ok to vote for impeachment if they so choose.

Dudes trying to protect the #1 Federal Welfare states standing. Has to keep those billions in socialist payments coming!!!

[Thekri]

Corporations are done with Trump's brand of GoP. They want him gone from the party and are signaling to McConnel and the establishment to rid the party of the cancer. Citizens United. Arguably the worst thing in US politics is potentially play a big part in ending Trumpism. Problem is, Trump is a symptom, the angry mob fed bullshit from social media and fox and all the other right wing bs media will keep chugging along and a new cult leader will arise.

Well, the Elites always start getting nervous when the mob gets too riled up. They are all for light incitement, helps keep the status quo. But Trump is threatening the status quo. Donors are done with this shit.

That said, I still wouldn't hold my breath on an conviction. The GOP is going to find a way to be "Very concerned" but acquit "to allow national healing" or some bullshit like that. They want Trump gone, but they need to find a way to keep his voters in the party. McConnell is pissed, but if they convict Trump, the party implodes, and he knows it.

[Kathranis]

https://apnews.com/article/12-guard-...25352df50de294



I have precisely zero problems rooting out people who are a part of of sympathize with extremist groups from the National Guard, even if they do not pose a present threat.

12 out of 25,000 also strongly points to actual fringe elements in the military being an exceptionally small minority, for all those dopes who think the military would turn on a dime and side with the right wing out of some misguided notion about patriotism and 2A rights or whatever the fuck. An even smaller minority when you consider that "ties" stops pretty far short of actual affiliation.

[Zan15]

12 out of 25,000 also strongly points to actual fringe elements in the military being an exceptionally small minority, for all those dopes who think the military would turn on a dime and side with the right wing out of some misguided notion about patriotism and 2A rights or whatever the fuck. An even smaller minority when you consider that "ties" stops pretty far short of actual affiliation.

or 12 were dumb enough to post this kind of shit on social media. How many not so dumb?

[Felya]

or 12 were dumb enough to post this kind of shit on social media. How many not so dumb?

Judging by the fact that majority storming the capital were filming them selfs doing it... I don’t think there are many outliers...

[Lenonis]

It feels like he is laying the groundwork for the Establishment GOP Senators to distance themselves from Trump and to give them the ok to vote for impeachment if they so choose.

I have no doubt McConnell is working as hard as he can to work out how he can scrape enough votes to convict Trump and them make the all important vote to bar him from holding office again to shake Trump off the GOP.

He just needs to find out the least damaging way to do this to the GOP base -- I have no doubt he 100% blames Trump for his loss of the majority leader position and wants some payback.

[Thekri]

12 out of 25,000 also strongly points to actual fringe elements in the military being an exceptionally small minority, for all those dopes who think the military would turn on a dime and side with the right wing out of some misguided notion about patriotism and 2A rights or whatever the fuck. An even smaller minority when you consider that "ties" stops pretty far short of actual affiliation.

I wouldn't jump to conclusions there. 12 of 25,000 is the number that got called out for it today. It isn't representative as a percentage.

Now I do think it is insane to think the military will turn on the government and support some facist insurrection. That won't happen. But these "fringe elements" are disturbingly large, and disturbingly vocal. I don't know any veteran that doesn't have extensive experience with them. The Veteran community is even worse, as a ton of people get out bitter and angry, and easy to radicalize. It is a serious problem, not one to brush aside. It does need to be dealt with.

There are a lot of rather gross "traditions" tied in with the military that encourage this. For instance, Virginia Military Institute (VMI) had a major scandal last year about racism in their corps of Cadets. This was exactly zero surprise to anyone that has even a passing knowledge of what VMI is. It is a neo-Confederate stronghold that glorifies the Lost Cause mythos to a ridiculous degree. It is also the third largest commissioning source for the Army after West Point and Texas A&M, so there are a LOT of Officers coming out of there. It is a nasty relic of an earlier Army, and it has never really cleaned up its act. Obviously I am not implying every officer that comes out of VMI is a Neo-Confederate. Several are friends of mine, and most of them just thought it was normal stuff until later, when they realized how horrible all that shit was. This sort of relic feeds and propagates these elements in the military, and we need to deal with them.

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https://abovethelaw.com/2021/01/tx-r...s-fbi-instead/

HAHAHA that Texas real estate lady on the private plane? Yeah, she flew there lookin for some dick. Specifically, the dick of the guy whose private plane she flew on.

Apparently she was dick denied, there was a more attractive younger woman who caught the attention of the wealthy dick. So all she has to show for her dick-chasing efforts is a felony rap sheet and a vagina as dry as Ben Shapiro's wifes.

I guess you could say...she went to an insurrection looking for an erection.

[Zan15]

https://abovethelaw.com/2021/01/tx-r...s-fbi-instead/

HAHAHA that Texas real estate lady on the private plane? Yeah, she flew there lookin for some dick. Specifically, the dick of the guy whose private plane she flew on.

Apparently she was dick denied, there was a more attractive younger woman who caught the attention of the wealthy dick. So all she has to show for her dick-chasing efforts is a felony rap sheet and a vagina as dry as Ben Shapiro's wifes.

I guess you could say...she went to an insurrection looking for an erection.

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bah she didn't want the dick, she wanted the wallet attached to dat dick

[Thekri]

https://abovethelaw.com/2021/01/tx-r...s-fbi-instead/

HAHAHA that Texas real estate lady on the private plane? Yeah, she flew there lookin for some dick. Specifically, the dick of the guy whose private plane she flew on.

Apparently she was dick denied, there was a more attractive younger woman who caught the attention of the wealthy dick. So all she has to show for her dick-chasing efforts is a felony rap sheet and a vagina as dry as Ben Shapiro's wifes.

I guess you could say...she went to an insurrection looking for an erection.

Some of my favorite part of all this is watching priviledged idiots suddenly come to the realization that "Equal Justice under the Law" doesn't mean what they thought it did. And watching them destroy their posh and comfy careers in a display of spectacular idiocy.

[beanman12345]

Well, the Elites always start getting nervous when the mob gets too riled up. They are all for light incitement, helps keep the status quo. But Trump is threatening the status quo. Donors are done with this shit.

That said, I still wouldn't hold my breath on an conviction. The GOP is going to find a way to be "Very concerned" but acquit "to allow national healing" or some bullshit like that. They want Trump gone, but they need to find a way to keep his voters in the party. McConnell is pissed, but if they convict Trump, the party implodes, and he knows it.

You could be right. They might acquit. Would certainly not be surprised if they do. But the possibility they convict, is becoming more likely imo. For example, after the riot, Lankford realized 'oh all the objections are from black communities" which made absolutely no sense to me at the time, the riots didn't teach him that, he already knew that, so why apologize? But after McConnell's speech today, it makes a lot more sense. a guy who was originally gonna object to the vote, might end up voting to convict to appease the donor's. I can't think of any other reason for the apology just a couple days ago, unless this is the direction he's going?

https://www.kjrh.com/news/local-news...ection-results

[Bodakane]

https://abovethelaw.com/2021/01/tx-r...s-fbi-instead/

I guess you could say...she went to an insurrection looking for an erection.

...and only got rejection.

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Some of my favorite part of all this is watching priviledged idiots suddenly come to the realization that "Equal Justice under the Law" doesn't mean what they thought it did. And watching them destroy their posh and comfy careers in a display of spectacular idiocy.

I mean, the fact that she lists "life coach" as a profession is enough for me to want her thrown in jail for a few years in principle.

But I'm loving seeing all these "economically anxious" executives and largely wealthy upper-middle class white folks realize that, maybe for the first time in their lives, their actions do have consequences.

You love to see people who have been blind to their privilege throughout life getting slapped in the face with it, for once.