Poll: Could the Angiris Council likely win in a fight against the Dragon Aspects?

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    Question Could the Angiris Council likely win in a fight against the Dragon Aspects?

    Could the members of the Angiris Council
    Tyrael, Aspect of Justice
    Auriel, Aspect of Hope,
    Imperius, Aspect of Valor
    Itherael, Aspect of Fate
    Malthael, Aspect of Wisdom

    Defeat the Dragon Aspects -
    Alexstrasza - Aspect of Life
    Ysera - Aspect of Dreams
    Malygos - Aspect of Magic
    Nozdormu - Aspect of Time
    Neltharion - Aspect of Earth

    At the height of their respective powers -- without any corruption, in a neutral realm, no outside interference allowed?
    "You see, there is balance in all things. Wisdom etched in our very fur: Black and white. Darkness and light. When the last emperor hid our land from the rest of the world, he also preserved...our ancient enemy, the mantid. So it is with your Alliance and your Horde. They are not strong despite one another; they are strong BECAUSE of one another. You mistake your greatest strength for weakness. Do you see this?"

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    The angels are just way stronger ( some of the strongest beings in their universe), going toe to toe with the likes of Diablo, who is way stronger than the aspects combined.

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    What @Cazze said. The Angels are on a whole different powerlevel tier than the Aspects.

    The one and only advantage that the Aspects might have is Nozdormu's control over time, but Bronze Dragonflight time travel powers are inconsistent at best.

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    Do not forget Ysera can put them into an eternal dreamless sleep as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobosan View Post
    Deathwing nearly shattered a planet and it took 10-25 people to defeat him. Diablo's feats don't even come close and he was easily defeated by a lone hero.
    Deathwing was not capable of causing the destruction on his own. The Cataclysm was caused by the partial destruction of the World Pillar, which was within the power of the Earthen Ring to repair once the fragments are retrieved. It should also be kept in mind that Deathwing was in Deeholm because Huln Highmountain and Drogbar slaves were capable of weakening Deathwing to the point of banishment.
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    Wow players are powerful adventurers decked out in really good gear.
    Diablo players are hybrids of angels and demons whose powers can develop to be greater than both.

    WoW bosses with the exception of someone like Sargeras were beaten by raw numbers of elite adventurers and some NPC assistance.
    Diablo bosses were only stopped thanks to the most powerful nephalem who grew in power so much he/she could solo take on biggest evils like Diablo.

    Dragon aspects are powerful but at the end of the day they are just smart lizards blessed by the titans.
    Angiris Council is much closer in power to Titans and i guess blizzard did parallels when they were creating the Warcraft lore (each arch angel represents something, each titan represents something).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobosan View Post
    Each dragon aspect "represents something" too so not sure what you're on about here. Diablo and his brothers were easily defeated by humans who never ascended to full Nephalem status (there is no indication the heroes of D1 or D2 were Nephalem, only the ones in D3 are explicitly called such, and even that was a bit of an ass-pull in the lore done to help sell the absolutely terrible Sin War books written by the same author that gave us the horrendous War of the Ancients trilogy.) The Angiris council has never been shown to be particularly powerful except insofar as they can fight demons to a draw. They're certainly not capable of, say, bending time or devouring all magic, which are feats well within the scope of the Aspects.
    Itherael can slow time. Malthael could arguably wipe out Sanctuary's human population; Malygos could possibly absorb some of Azeroth's magic, but he could not devour much more than a planet's worth of arcane energy, most likely.
    "You see, there is balance in all things. Wisdom etched in our very fur: Black and white. Darkness and light. When the last emperor hid our land from the rest of the world, he also preserved...our ancient enemy, the mantid. So it is with your Alliance and your Horde. They are not strong despite one another; they are strong BECAUSE of one another. You mistake your greatest strength for weakness. Do you see this?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobosan View Post
    Deathwing nearly shattered a planet and it took 10-25 people to defeat him. Diablo's feats don't even come close and he was easily defeated by a lone hero.
    Lorewise, Nephalem are significantly stronger than WoW characters are.

    Deathwing also didn't do that on his own. As stated, it was a sequence of events that all contributed to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryzeth View Post
    Lorewise, Nephalem are significantly stronger than WoW characters are.

    Deathwing also didn't do that on his own. As stated, it was a sequence of events that all contributed to it.
    Deathwing was also empowered by the Void energies of the Old Gods, unlike the other Aspects.
    "You see, there is balance in all things. Wisdom etched in our very fur: Black and white. Darkness and light. When the last emperor hid our land from the rest of the world, he also preserved...our ancient enemy, the mantid. So it is with your Alliance and your Horde. They are not strong despite one another; they are strong BECAUSE of one another. You mistake your greatest strength for weakness. Do you see this?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksej89 View Post
    Wow players are powerful adventurers decked out in really good gear.
    Diablo players are hybrids of angels and demons whose powers can develop to be greater than both.

    WoW bosses with the exception of someone like Sargeras were beaten by raw numbers of elite adventurers and some NPC assistance.
    Diablo bosses were only stopped thanks to the most powerful nephalem who grew in power so much he/she could solo take on biggest evils like Diablo.

    Dragon aspects are powerful but at the end of the day they are just smart lizards blessed by the titans.
    Angiris Council is much closer in power to Titans and i guess blizzard did parallels when they were creating the Warcraft lore (each arch angel represents something, each titan represents something).
    But the Dragon Aspects also embody fundamental forces of the universe (Life, Nature, Time, Magic, and Earth) just like the Angiris Council (Justice, Hope, Valor, Fate and Wisdom).
    "You see, there is balance in all things. Wisdom etched in our very fur: Black and white. Darkness and light. When the last emperor hid our land from the rest of the world, he also preserved...our ancient enemy, the mantid. So it is with your Alliance and your Horde. They are not strong despite one another; they are strong BECAUSE of one another. You mistake your greatest strength for weakness. Do you see this?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwenBurton View Post
    But the Dragon Aspects also embody fundamental forces of the universe (Life, Nature, Time, Magic, and Earth) just like the Angiris Council (Justice, Hope, Valor, Fate and Wisdom).
    I feel like a lot of your threads and posts come across as you half-reading the lore surrounding your topic and then asking people to fill in the rest. The Dragon Aspects channeled most of their power into the Dragon Soul to completely destroy Deathwing (to the point that you can't go back in time to undo his defeat thanks to Nozdormu) and are now so weakened by it that they literally cannot lay more eggs to repopulate as per one of Azsuna's questlines and the fact that rogues and Wrathion himself wiped out nearly all of the Black Dragonflight. They can't even lay eggs anymore and you still think Nozdormu is still the master of time.

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