You seriously believe the demand for gold will decrease in TBC?
As a matter of fact, i have already identified a certain audience that goes into TBC with
-no epic mount
-no professions
-blue gear
-no gold
And on top of that displays a certain willingless to pay real money for ingame services (especially to skip "boring stuff") meaning not everybody within that audience has necessarily an aversion for RMT.
Last edited by Kralljin; 2021-03-03 at 05:47 PM.
It does neither of those things. I'm saying that their standpoint of:
andFor those who haven’t had the opportunity to play through WoW Classic or who are Burning Crusade fans looking to experience Outland right away, we’ll also be offering a way to boost to level 58.
aligns with their boost offerings at new expansion launches in retail. That does not translate to "please bring all the retail services over to Classic".I think it might be helpful to note that what we’re now calling WoW Classic Era realms start at Level 1, and we feel the same as we did two years ago: no Boost would ever be needed (or appropriate) there. When we originally laid out our principles for WoW Classic, the 1-60 experience was the only thing to which we could refer.
Burning Crusade Classic begins at level 58, and we’re configuring this new Boost service to avoid minimizing the accomplishments of existing players or skipping any new content at launch. It’s for players who want a way to quickly join their friends in Outland.
you can't compair it with running, cuz the entire point of running is getting to the end fastest, in wow thats not the case, getting gear and doing pve/pvp is the end game, so if it would be p2w, you would have to get boosted to 70 and get gear other people who didnt pay couldnt get
But if its p2w at 58, you dont even know what it means
I literally quoted a lead producer/director/engineer from the official TBC Classic page and a Blue from the official forums and drew an obvious comparison to boosts offered when purchasing an expansion. That in no way means I support WoW tokens, race/faction changes, etc.
uhm, tbc wasn't that much about leveling anyways, its the best pvp expansion up to date.
You have committed crimes against TBC's integrity by despoiling it with retail RMT / boost / P2W features. The charge is high treason!
Bah, you and your lackeys seek to destroy TBC, not revive it!
Honestly this thread is a lot of fun. But I'm still waiting for 1 question to be answered:
What is the downside of a lvl58 character boost?
We can even pretend that it's p2w if you want since that's the most uninteresting non-answer, so seriously what's the actual downside?
Because Blizzard is an unbiased party in that aspect?
I still argue that Blizzard themselves fall into the same logical fallacy, they argue in this post that TBC experience starts at 58, but want everyone who hasn't played Classic or is not willing to purchase starts off at one, because [reasons].
Either the TBC experience starts at 58 and subsequently everyone who wants to play TBC should have access to a 58 or nobody that doesn't already have a max level character gets access to one.
But Blizzard drives this "actually the experience this server is supposed to deliver starts at 58, but you'll have to start at 1 unless you pay us", because they can and make money off it, plain and simple.
A small difference being that a character boost is a bonus on top of that expansion itself (at least for WoD & Legion), TBC does not come with an extra fee, they charge you money because they know people will pay for it.
And obviously the fact that Blizzard also withheld such a service for a multitude of expansions until recently.
The crux is that the very arguements you've applied can also be applied on those.
You want to argue "no, that's different!", i really don't think it is when you argue thatTBC is being designed to be "consistent" with retail and thus follows the modern approach that is guided by "engagement metrics".
I sure as shit know some prime candidates for the WoW token once they enter Outland with virtually nothing, not even an epic mount or a profession to farm gold in an economy that's about to become even more inflated.
Quite frankly, i don't even understand why this is the hill you want to die on.
It's a self explaining case and it's pretty obvious to me that because this is such a critical element for you to access TBC, you try your hardest to justify it, when in reality the boost simply cannot be reunited with the spirit of the game.
And if we're you, i'd just leave it at what i said earlier: say that you don't care, you just want to skip classic leveling and are willing to pay for it.
Boom, no further need of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, just say you want those edges off the square so its suits you.
Last edited by Kralljin; 2021-03-03 at 09:52 PM.
There is a big, big difference in paying to skip 7 days of torturous boredom in a fucking terrible levelling system and paying for gold.
I don't know about others, but I actually liked farming stuff and watching my gold go up as I got closer to that epic flying.
Doing 1-60 though? Now that was shit. I somehow managed to do it twice in actual vanilla and then once again on a draenei shaman in tbc. The levelling in Azeroth—especially after playing through TBC zones—was just fucking awful, and classic is right there to prove it.
TBC levelling is pretty bad compared to newer content now, but old Azeroth was just a whole other level of dogshit.
Speciation Is Gradual
Half the people in this thread could start an argument with themselves in an empty house.
And it is, as you implied, a personal preference of yours and i don't think it's long shot to that a lot of those have a different feeling about this.
Because those people that will take the boost enter Outland literally broke, they still have to even acquire the epic mount, which is around 600g in TBC, then they still need to pay for all the skills they're learning (which aren't cheap as anybody that has leveled in Classic will attest), while you have to save most of your gold for flying and epic flying in the back.
Disregarding that leveling a gathering profession is also an undertaking and leveling a crafting profession will also take some gold during TBC launch, especially the Outland portion, partially due to the inflated economy.
Without any gathering profession, you will also struggle to enter the market, because farming Primal Elements in early TBC will be a real test of patience.
Sorry, i'm not buying it that the vast majority of those people that hate on Classic leveling for being too boring or monotenous will suddenly make a complete 180° when it comes to goldfarming and find joy in it, especially when that very first step to farm gold (if they choose a gathering profession that is) ironically involves going back to the world they skipped.