Forced to recraft legendaries

[Nite92]

You can just for a minor fee. Also if you'd rather have multiple legendaries then equip one of those. Problem is fixed right? You can't complain about wanting to min/max your character while at the same time putting value on items that won't be used while min/maxing. It takes 3 weeks of Torghast to get a rank 4 legendary. You have more then enough time and Soul Ash to get rank 4 legendaries. It takes 2 to 3 weeks for soul cinders to get ranks 5 or 6. So you'll get the soul ash as a by product of getting soul cinders.

And you don't need previous ranks to craft the next rank. It adjust soul ash. So there is literally no issue and everything you keep saying are self imposed restrictions just so you can call the system bad.



150k on launch is not the same as 7 months later. You only need around 5.5k soul ash to get ranks 4, 5, or 6. 5 and 6 only require soul cinders and no additional soul ash. The only use for soul ash is to craft ranks 1 to 4. For someone that is complaining about a system you don't seem to know anything about how it actually works or current prices. Weird right? Do you even play the game currently?

Your arguments are all reasonable. I just don't see the point in leaving the frustration in of having picked the "wrong" slot last week, due to GV/Raid drops. This happened multiple times last patch in my guild and just does not feel good.
Yes it is not a gamebreaking issue, i just don't see the positives of not having this in the game. I only see a negative.

[Rageonit]

That is some next level mental gymnastics here to defend this garbage system.

No, this is no mental gymnastic. This is you arbitrarly deciding that this particular item should last for an entire expansion. Why? How is it special? It's just a common crafted item with fancy UI for thematic reasons and orange color so you can feel powerful. But in reality, it's so common and easy to get that for many people it was their first BiS, and for almost as many - their last. You claim you know SL legendaries are in no way "legendary", but clearly, you got charmed by their orange color if you think they are anything else than just another piece of gear that can get replaced in a new patch. You're a victim of your own unfounded assumptions; no one has ever said SL legendaries will be unreplacable.

[Utrrabbit]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/legenda...writers-322953

Having to recraft legendaries in new slots because of the new powerful domination items, how is there not more outrage about this

Cause its not a big deal. Ive ran it twice and already have enough for a new 225 leggo jusy from today. Anyone who thinks it is a problem is a child.

[kaminaris]

No, this is no mental gymnastic. This is you arbitrarly deciding that this particular item should last for an entire expansion. Why? How is it special? It's just a common crafted item with fancy UI for thematic reasons and orange color so you can feel powerful. But in reality, it's so common and easy to get that for many people it was their first BiS, and for almost as many - their last. You claim you know SL legendaries are in no way "legendary", but clearly, you got charmed by their orange color if you think they are anything else than just another piece of gear that can get replaced in a new patch. You're a victim of your own unfounded assumptions; no one has ever said SL legendaries will be unreplacable.

Nobody cares about items that don't last. Legendary lasts, period. You are not getting rid of legendaries.

You are forced to swap them around not often rendering profession you chose useless, especially if it was meant to be for crafting your leggos.
And to do so you have to pay gold, for each leggo you have, as well as get soul ash.

Which is exactly bad design as essentialy you are re-earning what you already had.
Not to mention its just a talent on gear "pick one of X" but with additional steps that is bloody expensive and takes down a gear slot.

UNLESS you dont plan to ever interact with raid - which is another reason why its badly designed.
OR you were in the lucky "group".

[Rageonit]

Nobody cares about items that don't last. Legendary lasts, period. You are not getting rid of legendaries

Nope, not in SL. It's only your assumption based on the past, but you're not taking into consideration that SL legendaries work differently than legendaries from the past. SL legendaries are glorified crafted items, nothing more, nothing less. The only thing that makes them "legendary" is the orange color.

Any Mythic Sire drop is infinitely harder to obtain and will get replaced as fast. If you choose to believe SL legendaries should last because they are orange, you're deluding yourself.

[kaminaris]

Nope, not in SL. It's only your assumption based on the past, but you're not taking into consideration that SL legendaries work differently than legendaries from the past. SL legendaries are glorified crafted items, nothing more, nothing less. The only thing that makes them "legendary" is the orange color.

Any Mythic Sire drop is infinitely harder to obtain and will get replaced as fast. If you choose to believe SL legendaries should last because they are orange, you're deluding yourself.

Not to mention its just a talent on gear "pick one of X" but with additional steps that is bloody expensive and takes down a gear slot.

Which is simply badly designed system that is worse than most of things of past.

[Rageonit]

Which is simply badly designed system that is worse than most of things of past.

Re-earning everything in a new season is one of the core WoW principles since like forever. That you had some things in the past that weren't as easily replacable has no bearing on the present. Anyone who ever put REAL work for an item that got replaced by a welfare epic on the first boss of a new heroic raid will laugh at the assumptiom that something as easily obtainable as SL legendary should last cause it's orange. Seems like you play the game since yesterday.

Enjoy your soul binds and conduits, you will have them for the entire expansion.

[kaminaris]

Re-earning everything in a new season is one of the core WoW principles since like forever. That you had some things in the past that weren't as easily replacable has no bearing on the present. Anyone who ever put REAL work for an item that got replaced by a welfare epic on the first boss of a new heroic raid will laugh at the assumptiom that something as easily obtainable as SL legendary should last cause it's orange. Seems like you play the game since yesterday.

Enjoy your soul binds and conduits, you will have them for the entire expansion.

No. This is your stockholm syndrome. Wow was never designed around re-earning something you already had.
This is literally the first system ever that prevents you from interacting with new stuff unless you pay hefty amount of gold and effort.

[Rageonit]

No. This is your stockholm syndrome. Wow was never designed around re-earning something you already had.
This is literally the first system ever that prevents you from interacting with new stuff unless you pay hefty amount of gold and effort.

So the previous tier items I'm replacing with new tier items are not something I've earned? The previous tier crafts that are replaced by new tier crafts are not something I've earned? Get a grip.

(And you're wrong again. You don't have to pay anything to interact with new stuff. You just put it on.)

[kaminaris]

So the previous tier items I'm replacing with new tier items are not something I've earned? The previous tier crafts that are replaced by new tier crafts are not something I've earned? Get a grip.

if you are replacing previous set items with new set items they are not longer good, you are also not paying 100k to do so. Legendaries are still bis. Learn the difference.

[Rageonit]

if you are replacing previous set items with new set items they are not longer good, you are also not paying 100k to do so. Legendaries are still bis. Learn the difference.

Wrong. New tier leggos are BiS and those are new items that require new currency and gold from every single player.

[kaminaris]

Wrong. New tier leggos are BiS and those are new items that require new currency and gold from every single player.

Wrong. People who got em in right slot can leave them. At least until they DECIDE to upgrade. Im guessing your previous analogy failed.

[Rageonit]

Wrong. People who got em in right slot can leave them. At least until they DECIDE to upgrade. Im guessing your previous analogy failed.

Old leggos are not BiS, period. Even if you have them in the right slot, those are still outdated items.

[kaminaris]

Old leggos are not BiS, period. Even if you have them in the right slot, those are still outdated items.

They are bis. No other item than leggo is better. Period. Backed off your analogy as soon as you realized it was wrong?

[Rageonit]

They are bis. No other item than leggo is better. Period. Backed off your analogy as soon as you realized it was wrong?

Lego rank 4 and rank 6 are not the same item. One is BiS, the other is not.

[kaminaris]

Lego rank 4 and rank 6 are not the same item. One is BiS, the other is not.

Same item with different stat budget, stats are not what makes it strong, effect does.

Backed off your analogy as soon as you realized it was wrong?

[Rageonit]

Same item with different stat budget, stats are not what makes it strong, effect does.

Backed off your analogy as soon as you realized it was wrong?

Both have same effect, between them it's stats that make one BiS.
What analogy?

[kaminaris]

Both have same effect, between them it's stats that make one BiS.
What analogy?

No shit, because its the same item. That is ahead of everything else regardless of item level. To get higher ilvl you pay gold.
That is like paying gold to unlock same talent with slightly different numbers.

Your analogy that "it was always like that". Which it wasn't as you never paid any gold.

[Rageonit]

No shit, because its the same item. That is ahead of everything else regardless of item level. To get higher ilvl you pay gold.
That is like paying gold to unlock same talent with slightly different numbers.

Your analogy that "it was always like that". Which it wasn't as you never paid any gold.

For crafted items you always did.
Not to mention raiding in itself is a huge gold sink if you factor in repairs, food, flasks, runes and what not. Any raider worth his salt knows this. If you don't need gold for raiding, you're prolly a passenger.

[FelPlague]

Nobody cares about items that don't last. Legendary lasts, period. You are not getting rid of legendaries.

Tell that to
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[Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]
[Warglaive of Azzinoth] and [Warglaive of Azzinoth]
[Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury]
[Cosmic Infuser]
[Devastation]
[Infinity Blade]
[Netherstrand Longbow] with [Bundle of Nether Spikes] holding [Nether Spike]
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and lastly [Ashjra'kamas, Shroud of Resolve]
but nah "You never get rid of legendaries"