"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
Pathetic.
Anyone who got sad eyes by /spit /taunt etc. should stop playing and get some friends irl.
TY BLZ for removing a legendary PvP interaction for no reason if it goes live.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
That is not at all what I said. You can of course be verbally abused. Have you seen them censoring the words "fuck", "cancer", "asshole" and the sorts? No because these words can also be used as jestly banter between people while also largely used to harass. The solution instead was to 1.) add a language filter 2.) create a blacklist and 3.) have an option to report people over repeated harassment.
Why is this treated differently when it has a far lesser consequence?
Blizzard does have a filter for swear words built in to the client. They also do take action against the usage of those words even for people who have the filter turned off depending on how and where they are used. This is not being treated any differently then what you stated. Blizzard is removing it to help combat the abuse of the emote. Something you seem to agree with given your support of filters and black lists.
But can't actually state you agree with because you think you can't be harassed with words or even worse when online.
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So you don't think you can be harassed remotely? Also why do you think that you need to be a victim of harassment in order to think something is harassment?
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
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No that is not at all what I think. You keep pushing your argument using a black and white binary of good or bad with no space in between. Just like those words, emotes can get abused. However, tools are there to prevent these from being abused while simultaneously keeping them in for those that do not abuse them instead of flat out deleting them/censoring them for everyone.
We both agree that you can be verbally abused. What we do not agree on is how you view it as a black or white binary where a word/emote is just flat out wrong or isnt based on what a tremendously small % of people perceive it as whereas I believe that there is a gray area where there is nothing inherently wrong with it but can get abused depending on the situation.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
And that is a failure on them. Racism, sexism, homophobia and the sorts are the types of things that fall under the binary that I just mentioned above and insults pertaining to any of these topics should flat out be banned. I cannot fathom why they would allow the N word to exist but I had no idea about this since I have not used it.
I dont use the /spit emote either nor the WA. What bothers me is not the removal of the emote but rather the reason behind it. How does the WA get around it? There is nothing currently in the game to block emotes. If there was, no WA would be able to get around a block. You could make a WA to whisper people and start cursing them but if you block the person the WA cannot get around it.
You keep saying those who have the mount and are a target of harassment are in the wrong. That you can't be harassed with text. This isn't about having a binary view of an emote either being bad or good. This is about a binary view of the harassment that took place being good or bad. You don't see it as bad because you keep blaming the victims and saying how you can't be harassed with text. I see that harassment as bad and feel that removing the emote is justified and acceptable.
It is a low value emote. It has no animations tied to it. There is no real reason to use /spit anyways and for those that do find a legitimate role play reason to use it they still can with the free form emote. The removal is to put a quick stop to those toxic players that were abusing it at the behest of a streamer. Why do you feel it is okay to harass people that bought a specific mount/package from Blizzard? Because you keep defending those actions by saying the victims should just /ignore. Or Blizzard should just mute the emote so the victims can't see it but the ones doing the harassing can still use it.
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The victims are not the unstable ones in this case. It is those who are harassing over a mount the victims bought. Why are you trying to claim otherwise? Why do you keep blaming the victim when they didn't even do anything here? They were just playing the game when triggered people decided to target them. Is it because you are one of those people that repeatedly /spit on those with a specific mount?
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
This isn't about people getting hurt over a spite emote. It is about people doing it repeatedly to people that bought a mount/package. There is even a weakaura to do it on target of the person. How is facebook and text messages different? It is just text right? It is being done online. This is the problem. You create arbitrary standards for what can and can not be harassment.
And yet you claim others are the ones "butt hurt" over something in game when you can't even acknowledge that you can be harassed in a game.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
You cannot be serious.....
You think targeted online harassment and reputation tarnishing straight to your face is the same as spamming a /spit emote from your anonymous avatar to another anonymous avatar from across the globe that you will probably never encounter again?
The fact you keep tip-toeing between "It's just an emote bro" and "people are victims of harm from reading this emote every now and then" tells everything about your bad faith.
How is it that when we complain its removal it's nothing special it was just an emote but when those snowflakes complain for its presence it's a big deal warranting global censoring?
Those so called """"""""""victims"""""""""" can go fuck off. You're not a victim of anything by being slightly marginally offended at something, maybe.
It doesn't give them a right to victimize the vast majority of the userbase by censoring an emote that was both classic and most of us were using correctly.
Again, "triggered people decided to target them", and that's wrong to you, but at the very same instant those who got triggered from this are "poor victims".
You're not arguing with logic.
Also no, I never used /spit but I'll defend the right of sane people to do it. Mollycoddling mental fragility to these heights is pathetic and harms all.
Last edited by Nimin; 2021-08-01 at 04:32 PM.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
It is just an emote. That isn't something I've tip toed around. Lol. People are victims of harassment using the emote. That isn't bad faith. What is bad faith is inventing claims that another person hasn't had and ignore harassment that is taking place just because you can't accept it as reality.
If it is just an emote and the targets of the harassment are emotionally unstable why are you reacting emotionally about the emote being removed? Why are you claiming to be a victim because you can not longer type /spit in a video game?
The truth is what is wrong with me? Lmao. You can't be a good judge of what sane is when you ignore the truth. People harassing others over a mount is a text book definition of being triggered.Again, "triggered people decided to target them", and that's wrong to you, but at the very same instant those who got triggered from this are "poor victims".
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
Personally I don't think WoW is ever going to recover. It's a game by pussies for pussies at this point. Which I find funny considering they want to put kid gloves and foam padding on every corner for said weaklings to feel safe in, meanwhile mass murder is committed on a regular basis as a plot point.
Nothing about this game is appealing at this point. They've ruined it like season 8 of GoT ruined the whole show for me. There's nothing to go back to because they've made it all so pointless. I'm only here to watch it crumble.