Mega-Thread: Coronavirus Pandemic

[Rasulis]

But hey evil corporations charging 12-30 dollars for a covid shot huh?

12 - 30 dollars per dose every 6 - 8 months?

Some people probably take Viagra on a daily basis.

[Zan15]

12 - 30 dollars per dose every 6 - 8 months?

Some people probably take Viagra on a daily basis.

yikes, their poor heart.


Not to mention to the end user the cost is 0.00 for the covid shot.

Outside of the VA, there are not many free boner pills out there.

[Rasulis]

According to my wife, some of the damage of Ivermectin are irreversible. Specifically the nerve damage and hepatitis. They were always careful with it. The dosage is size and species specific. It is very easy to kill small dogs with Ivermectin. To clarify, I am fairly sure she intended to say "by accident."

[Bakis]

And non-US people regardless of political "block" affiliation wonder why the US goes downhill as a superpower.
Nothing is more longterm patriotic than killing ones constituents for a short term gain.

[cubby]

Rick Death-Camp DeSantis scores another notch in his resume. 400 COVID cases in one district in one day. Great call removing the mask mandate and threatening teachers and school administrators jobs with sanctions and firing for believing in science.

The school district has since implemented a mask mandate. DeSantis is looking like the best choice for the GQP. Fucking ass-clown science deniers.

FUCK FUCKING Florida. Can we just sawzall it off...?

Hey @TexasRules - it's adorable this is the guy you point to for leadership.

[Rasulis]

Random FL Covid news.

COVID-19 surge forcing critical oxygen away from launchers like SpaceX and ULA

A pandemic-triggered shortage of oxygen across the nation has rippled out to spaceflight companies like SpaceX and United Launch Alliance, officials confirmed this week, and is part of the reason for the Space Coast's months-long launch drought.

Tampa Bay water users asked to cut back so oxygen keeps flowing to COVID-19 patients

Now, all water users in the Tampa Bay area, and especially those served by Hillsborough County Public Utilities, are being asked to help conserve drinking water by cutting back on non-essential uses like washing cars, watering lawns and using pressure washers.

'A nightmare': Florida woman survives COVID-19, discovers husband had died at home

A Winter Haven woman thought her COVID-19 troubles were coming to an end when she went home from the hospital.

She went home on Wednesday to find him deceased in their bedroom. Their dogs were close to death from lack of food and water.

Ron Steadman’s doctor told Lisa her husband had died from COVID-related complications.

Neither of the Steadmans were vaccinated.

“Both of us felt that it hadn’t been tested enough yet. Now after being in the hospital and talking with my doctor, when I am able to take it, I will in September,” she said.

All of these do not have to happen.

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For a change pace, news from Mississippi.

Mississippi now has at least 2,000 fewer nurses than it did at the beginning of the year, according to the Mississippi Hospital Association's Center for Quality & Workforce.

Earlier this month, Mississippi ICU nurse Nichole Atherton resigned, worn down by the stress, young patients and preventable deaths that have overwhelmed the state's hospitals during the Covid-19 pandemic.

"It looks heroic," Atherton, of Singing River Ocean Springs Hospital, told CNN. "But that's not what it is. It's sweaty and hard and chaotic and bloody. And it's hard to live in this every day and then go home and live a normal life."

When asked if the health care system is reaching a breaking point, Singing River Nursing Manager for Personal Care Buddy Grager said, "I think we already broke."

State Epidemiologist Dr. Paul Byers said Tuesday that Mississippi set a new record of Covid-19 related deaths. And of the 875 staffed ICU beds across the state, more than 93% are in use and more than 63% of those beds are occupied by Covid-19 patients, according to the US Department of Health and Human Services.

[Masark]

High Plague Cultist Greg Abbott has issued an executive order banning vaccine mandates.

Gov. Greg Abbott issued an executive order on Wednesday banning any state or local mandates requiring people to be vaccinated against COVID-19, and he called on Texas legislators to vote it into law during their current special session.

The move came as Texas reported the most COVID-19 patients in its hospitals since the pandemic began.

Abbott issued his ban in an executive order to fill a loophole left by the full authorization of the Pfizer vaccine. He had previously banned the requirement of vaccinations under emergency use authorizations. He also has banned state and local government mandates for wearing masks.

“Vaccine requirements and exemptions have historically been determined by the Legislature, and their involvement is particularly important to avoid a patchwork of vaccine mandates across Texas,” Abbott said on the governor’s office website.

Nine counties, dozens of school districts and the city of El Paso have defied the Abbott mask mandate ban, and some of the state’s most populous counties have asked for court orders to overturn or block enforcement of the ban. On Wednesday, Dallas County became the latest to obtain a court order blocking enforcement.

“Although this is an important victory, it’s really not a victory against a person or an entity,” Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins, the county’s leading elected official, said at a news conference. “It’s a victory for humans who live in Dallas County against the virus.”

A new wave of COVID-19 cases has been sweeping the state, fueled by the highly contagious delta variant of the coronavirus, prompting the wave of defiance of the Abbott order.

The Texas Supreme Court has declined to block restraining orders against Abbott’s mask mandate ban. Also, the Texas Education Agency has, for now, suspended enforcement of the mask mandate ban in the state’s public school systems.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services reported 79% of the 85,874 Texas intensive-care unit beds are full, about 30% of them with COVID-19 cases. Overall COVID-19 hospitalizations were a record 14,255 Wednesday, beating the Jan. 11 record of 14,218 reported by the Texas Department of State Health Services.

[Rasulis]

A Florida dad accused of attacking a high school student over a school mask policy has been arrested and charged with child abuse

A 50-year-old Florida father was arrested and charged with one count of child abuse on Wednesday after authorities say he pushed a female high school student and twisted her arm over a mask dispute outside Fort Lauderdale High School.

According to authorities, Bauman was at the front entrance to the school yet again on Wednesday morning, recording other students with his phone and "causing a disturbance." Recognizing Bauman as a protester of the school board's mask mandate, the school resource officer turned his body worn camera on, according to the affidavit.

As Bauman continued to record, a passing student told him she did not want to be videotaped, saying "I've had enough for four days" before trying to grab the cell phone out of Bauman's hands, according to authorities.

Bauman responded by pushing the student into a fence, grabbing her hand, and twisting her arm "in an aggressive manner," the affidavit said. The school resource officer and security pulled Bauman off the student and placed him into custody.

Following the incident, which was partially caught on camera, Bauman was booked into Broward County's main jail and charged with one count of child abuse, according to county records. No bond has been listed as of yet, and it was unclear if he had an attorney.

I am speechless.

Reading the US deep south Covid news is like watching a slow motion train wreck.

[Granyala]

The "pandemic" is going to stay forever.
New Variants --> New Boosters --> New Mandates --> New Variants --> New Boosters --> New Mandates

If the virus keeps spitting out problematic variants like Delta at the current pace: yes. The current situation will basically remain indefinitely.
Looking at Israel, depending on how long immunity lasts after the 3rd shot we might need additional boosters every 6-12 months in addition to permanent masking and distancing.

I'm sure, corporate leadership of the vaccine makers is orgasming all over the place. They basically have the license to print money now, lol.

It sure is a crappy time to be alive. Especially for people who actually like meeting up with other people.

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Not to mention to the end user the cost is 0.00 for the covid shot.

No it's not. You finance that back via taxes / social security payments.

[PickleballAce]

Reading the US deep south Covid news is like watching a slow motion train wreck.

I wonder if Southerners get tired of being the example of what not to do for basically...everything in life?

[cubby]

I wonder if Southerners get tired of being the example of what not to do for basically...everything in the life?

The problem is that they think they are right, all the time, on everything. And nowadays, any new or contradicting information, is just cast aside, like the reality they abandoned long ago.

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A Florida dad accused of attacking a high school student over a school mask policy has been arrested and charged with child abuse

A 50-year-old Florida father was arrested and charged with one count of child abuse on Wednesday after authorities say he pushed a female high school student and twisted her arm over a mask dispute outside Fort Lauderdale High School.

According to authorities, Bauman was at the front entrance to the school yet again on Wednesday morning, recording other students with his phone and "causing a disturbance." Recognizing Bauman as a protester of the school board's mask mandate, the school resource officer turned his body worn camera on, according to the affidavit.

As Bauman continued to record, a passing student told him she did not want to be videotaped, saying "I've had enough for four days" before trying to grab the cell phone out of Bauman's hands, according to authorities.

Bauman responded by pushing the student into a fence, grabbing her hand, and twisting her arm "in an aggressive manner," the affidavit said. The school resource officer and security pulled Bauman off the student and placed him into custody.

Following the incident, which was partially caught on camera, Bauman was booked into Broward County's main jail and charged with one count of child abuse, according to county records. No bond has been listed as of yet, and it was unclear if he had an attorney.

I am speechless.

Guy should be taken out back and have the shit beat out of him. These fucking people are insane.

How is that assclown even allowed on the school grounds?

And this is the future of our country - the child abuse father, Bauman, has already indoctrinated his daughter into the anti-mask (and I assume anti-vax) mentality. She was on ABC saying "I just want to go to school and breathe..." as if everyone else somehow can't breathe with their masks on. So another generation of fuckwad idiots breeding and fucking up our country.

Remind me...what are the words to O'Canada?

[szechuan]

The "pandemic" is going to stay forever.

New Variants --> New Boosters --> New Mandates --> New Variants --> New Boosters --> New Mandates

America did not reach herd immunity because of idiots in the USA.

It's cyclical. If the flu got politicized to the levels of COVID-19, it'd be the same situation.

It's not the flu.

[PhaelixWW]

America did not reach herd immunity because of idiots in the USA.

We wouldn't have reached herd immunity regardless.

[postman1782]

America did not reach herd immunity because of idiots in the USA.



It's not the flu.

Also, the flu, infects 25-50 million people a year. There is usually only about 225,000 hospitalizations from it, and roughly 20,000 dead from it a year on average. If the flu killed as many as it did for Covid, it would be an issue. Anyone like this bot saying it is a flu is fucking ignorant at best, uneducated at worst. Parroting fucking Fox News/Right wing youtubers.

[Santti]

Also, the flu, infects 25-50 million people a year. There is usually only about 225,000 hospitalizations from it, and roughly 20,000 dead from it a year on average. If the flu killed as many as it did for Covid, it would be an issue. Anyone like this bot saying it is a flu is fucking ignorant at best, uneducated at worst. Parroting fucking Fox News/Right wing youtubers.

I'd also like to point out, that it's not just about being dead or being 100% fine, which is how the comparison is usually presented between Covid and the Flu. You can survive Covid, but be otherwise fucked, potentially for the rest of your life, when your lungs are covered in scar tissue, and/or heart and brain damaged in some ways. Flu doesn't really have that.

[postman1782]

I'd also like to point out, that it's not just about being dead or being 100% fine, which is how the comparison is usually presented between Covid and the Flu. You can survive Covid, but be otherwise fucked, potentially for the rest of your life, when your lungs are covered in scar tissue, and/or heart and brain damaged in some ways. Flu doesn't really have that.

Yep, it is estimated that 30% have what is called "Long Covid", which can severely damage your lungs or heart. Some have even had double lung transplants already, which they went from perfectly healthy normal people to having a shortened lifespan because of having a transplant.

[Forogil]

Yep, it is estimated that 30% have what is called "Long Covid", which can severely damage your lungs or heart. Some have even had double lung transplants already, which they went from perfectly healthy normal people to having a shortened lifespan because of having a transplant.

That number seems like an exaggeration, and long term effect also happen for flu (and the common cold) although a bit rarer and people don't talk about it.

As I recall 30% was from one study (can't recall if only severely ill or not), and it wasn't "long covid" but people having some effects of the disease for a few months, but you could still see that the numbers were declining.

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As medicine goes, at around $20 per dose, the vaccine is actually cheap.

Sick profiteering is questionable. These are public companies so their accounting is open to the public. Pfizer/BioNTech are older companies with multiple products, so they are harder to napkin analyze. Moderna on the other hand is relatively young. In first quarter 2021 Moderna revenue was 2.73b with net income (profit) of 0.6b (21.89% profit margin). Second quarter 2021 net revenue went up to 7.02b and net income 3.5b (49.79% profit margin). it looks like a lot of money. However, first quarter 2021 was the first profitable quarter for Moderna. Its combined net income prior to that, dating back to 2010, was minus 16.7b. The company has not break even yet.

For older companies you only mean Pfizer (as well as Janssen, Astra-Zeneca, and some others).
BioNTech and Moderna are both fairly young; and should have seen similar growths.
The share price for BioNTech increased by a factor 10 compared to before the pandemic; Moderna (stock ticker MRNA) by a bit more.

That's unfortunately common in the pharma industry - a lot of the actual innovation happen in new companies.

[postman1782]

That number seems like an exaggeration, and long term effect also happen for flu (and the common cold) although a bit rarer and people don't talk about it.

As I recall 30% was from one study (can't recall if only severely ill or not), and it wasn't "long covid" but people having some effects of the disease for a few months, but you could still see that the numbers were declining.

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For older companies you only mean Pfizer (as well as Janssen, Astra-Zeneca, and some others).
BioNTech and Moderna are both fairly young; and should have seen similar growths.
The share price for BioNTech increased by a factor 10 compared to before the pandemic; Moderna (stock ticker MRNA) by a bit more.

That's unfortunately common in the pharma industry - a lot of the actual innovation happen in new companies.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-vacc...id-11627038001

That is the article I saw. Only a month old.

Another article without paywall: https://theconversation.com/the-myst...-so-far-161174
https://time.com/6073522/long-covid-prevalence/ 25% from that one.

Just to back up what I was saying, I know it can seem unrealistic, but some were saying 1 in 20 last year in October, now it is 1 in 3 or 4 with current strains like Delta.

[PhaelixWW]

Just to back up what I was saying, I know it can seem unrealistic, but some were saying 1 in 20 last year in October, now it is 1 in 3 or 4 with current strains like Delta.

This has nothing to do with delta. Those are all from the same study, and it was about people who had COVID between February and December of 2020, back when delta didn't even exist.

[Tuor]

America did not reach herd immunity because of idiots in the USA.

No one, has reached herd immunity so far, and we not even close. Its stupid to call someone stupid when we don't even understand what we speaking about.