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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    It's important to know the difference between being insulted, and being offended. The first one isn't okay, the second is is.

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    You must be 15.
    Nope. Just a normal, well adjusted adult that doesn't need any social contracts!
    You know the thing...

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by TbouncerT View Post
    If that's the case, I could question what are you doing to cause it. Since you are the constant variable here. Some of it has to be coming from your end.
    Ethan Musk makes way more than a penny everytime he pisses someone off. This guy is minor-leagues.

  3. #143
    I just do not believe they will be banning said "asshats" or even suspending accounts for actions against social contract. I mean cmon..... really u guys think that?

    Blizzard = Greedy ass company.
    Retail WoW = Lowest sub "active users" numbers in 20 year history. Your telling me they gonna ban or suspend these kids and reduce that number even more? Do you really think the social contract is going make any previous players return that have left?

    I just dont see it. This is all for show. Typical Blizzard move.

  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by Goat7 View Post
    I just do not believe they will be banning said "asshats" or even suspending accounts for actions against social contract. I mean cmon..... really u guys think that?

    Blizzard = Greedy ass company.
    Retail WoW = Lowest sub "active users" numbers in 20 year history. Your telling me they gonna ban or suspend these kids and reduce that number even more? Do you really think the social contract is going make any previous players return that have left?

    I just dont see it. This is all for show. Typical Blizzard move.
    The people who will get perma'd over this change are a fraction of a fraction of a percent.

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by aceperson View Post
    a team to work ON THE SYSTEM... not of team of gm's... you need to learn that words have meaning and the absence of certain ones also mean things.
    They said nothing about working on a system.

    They said a team to work on making the game a better place.

    The sheer amount of people around here claiming others have issues reading while literally making up things is just crazy high.

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    They said nothing about working on a system.

    They said a team to work on making the game a better place.

    The sheer amount of people around here claiming others have issues reading while literally making up things is just crazy high.

    And this is why Blizzard is doing what they are doing in the game to clean it up. The sheer amount of rude bastards in it is just overbearing at the moment. People are sick of it.
    Be careful who you chat it up with here on these forums. If you are NOT for WoW and about WoW, people will report whatever you say and get you banned

  7. #147
    I am triggered by gnomes

    Obviously I will be reporting all gnomes for bad toxic abusive behavior

    Creepy little fuckers...

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by mcnally86 View Post
    I do not think you read what I wrote. I think you are a shitty player. If you were a good player you would be on discord not pugging. I do not belive you have anything to offer anyone in /i so I think blizz muting you is a net win for anyone. If you were a good player you would be in a guild or doing something hard enough to warrant voice chat. To me you come off as someone mentoring people and making them better players. Start your own guild. Play with people you teach to play. You yelling at an endless churn of pugs helps no one.
    Maybe you should go back to where I described myself as a long time GM of my own guild, before that I was a healing officer in a guild that pretty consistently ranked top 100 NA with world 5th Ignis in Ulduar as our best ranking. Sadly the old logs all got wiped otherwise I'd gladly link you my WorldofLogs profile that ranked me as one of the best resto shaman in the world at the time. I could link you my current logs that place me in the top 10% of both mistweaver and windwalker monks despite me now playing a lot more casually, but you would probably just strawman saying it's just my attitude that is shitty and obviously I just want to verbally assault everyone all the time.

    I do a lot of pugging because it's a good way to get ranked logs, and my guild isn't running keys 24/7. I also enjoy doing old content and will join pugs doing achievement runs or mog clears. This doesn't mean I yell at pugs about how bad they are all the time, personally I rarely even talk to pugs outside of relevant information to completing the task. If someone asks for help or seems new I offer help and hopefully they can handle being told they are doing things wrong or may be better off playing a different class.

    Really, the fact is that you don't know shit about me or how I interact with people. I'm not going to treat random pugs the same way I do a new recruit to my guild who I expect better from, but that situation doesn't make a difference to Bliz. I try to promote an atmosphere where people are helped when they say they fucked up rather than demeaned, but if you try to hide your fuck-ups or don't understand you are fucking up, you're going to get an awakening. This is just what it means to join any group in completing an objective, but too many special snowflake types make the game all about themselves and their own enjoyment. Could we do it without harsh words? I say probably not. Words have power and sometimes in order to get the message across properly you need to say it strongly, besides... I'm originally a farm boy from the deep country, not being at least a little foul-mouthed just wouldn't be me.

  9. #149
    Just when you think Blizzard is doing something right, they prove you wrong. The idea of essentially enabling the mob is a God awful idea.

  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatfish View Post
    Maybe you should go back to where I described myself as a long time GM of my own guild, before that I was a healing officer in a guild that pretty consistently ranked top 100 NA with world 5th Ignis in Ulduar as our best ranking. Sadly the old logs all got wiped otherwise I'd gladly link you my WorldofLogs profile that ranked me as one of the best resto shaman in the world at the time. I could link you my current logs that place me in the top 10% of both mistweaver and windwalker monks despite me now playing a lot more casually, but you would probably just strawman saying it's just my attitude that is shitty and obviously I just want to verbally assault everyone all the time.

    I do a lot of pugging because it's a good way to get ranked logs, and my guild isn't running keys 24/7. I also enjoy doing old content and will join pugs doing achievement runs or mog clears. This doesn't mean I yell at pugs about how bad they are all the time, personally I rarely even talk to pugs outside of relevant information to completing the task. If someone asks for help or seems new I offer help and hopefully they can handle being told they are doing things wrong or may be better off playing a different class.

    Really, the fact is that you don't know shit about me or how I interact with people. I'm not going to treat random pugs the same way I do a new recruit to my guild who I expect better from, but that situation doesn't make a difference to Bliz. I try to promote an atmosphere where people are helped when they say they fucked up rather than demeaned, but if you try to hide your fuck-ups or don't understand you are fucking up, you're going to get an awakening. This is just what it means to join any group in completing an objective, but too many special snowflake types make the game all about themselves and their own enjoyment. Could we do it without harsh words? I say probably not. Words have power and sometimes in order to get the message across properly you need to say it strongly, besides... I'm originally a farm boy from the deep country, not being at least a little foul-mouthed just wouldn't be me.
    Then why the hell are you bitching about this stuff? You think blizz police are going to come into your discords and slap the skittles out of your mouth?

    Nah man, you are just a little man mad people don't know how big you are. Not worth listening to. I would mute you in a dungeon too.

  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by aeuhe4yxzhds View Post
    I dont like the new future where big corporations (especially american ones) try and control how people act,
    Someone needs to read up on what freedom of speech actually is. Maybe where you are things are different, but in America free speech doesn't apply to private businesses, and never has. if you act like an idiot on a service owned by a private business, you can and will be censored and removed.
    How joyous to be in such a place! Where phishing is not only allowed, it is encouraged!

  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by mcnally86 View Post
    Then why the hell are you bitching about this stuff? You think blizz police are going to come into your discords and slap the skittles out of your mouth?

    Nah man, you are just a little man mad people don't know how big you are. Not worth listening to. I would mute you in a dungeon too.
    I've been very clear about why I dislike this stuff, it's not my fault that you don't actually have any real arguments and resort to building strawmen and insulting me.

  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatfish View Post
    I've been very clear about why I dislike this stuff, it's not my fault that you don't actually have any real arguments and resort to building strawmen and insulting me.
    Wait, so you are telling me judging someone on a small interaction is not fair? I should not fly off the handle and bitch at someone for one thing I see they did wrong immediately? That being calm and rational and empathizing with the person I am typing to might yield better results? That if I took a second to look at what they were doing we might bother leave better people? Sounds like some hippy crap to me. You should click unaccept on this social contract thing.

  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Lumy View Post
    <img src="https://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2012/july/wowmini.png" style="margin-bottom:-1px; margin-right:0px; vertical-align:bottom" /> Patch 9.2.5 - New Social Contract

    An Eye on Player Behavior and Reporting Improvements in Patch 9.2.5
    Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
    As a part of our ongoing efforts to foster a fun, fair, and safe game environment for our community, we’re implementing some improvements to the system with the 9.2.5 update. We know how important it is for our players to be a part of a safe and supportive community, and we want to help foster that by providing you with tools and information you can use to help promote and create it alongside us.

    Just the Start

    Creating a positive experience in World of Warcraft is important to the entire team. As a part of helping drive that focus, we’ve pulled together a multi-disciplinary team to look at varying aspects of what we can do to help make things better. The 9.1.5 content update allowed us to provide additional updates to our reporting system that enable more visibility to player reporting by sending thank you messages to players who reported others for violating our code of conduct. Additionally, most players who are close to being actioned within the game are now receiving a warning message. This is only the start of what we have in store, and the 9.2.5 content update provides some further improvements to the system.

    New Social Contract

    When players first log in to World of Warcraft after the 9.2.5 content update goes live, they will be greeted by the new Social Contract. This contract will need to be read and accepted before a player can continue into the world of Azeroth. The contract outlines behavior that will help make your experiences more positive and provides an outline of behaviors that are not acceptable within the game. While you should only need to accept it once, there may be a future point where you’ll need to reaccept the contract to continue playing.

    Reporting Player Behavior

    We’ve modernized how reporting works in-game, making it even easier to report disruptive or poor player behavior.

    • Right-click the player's name in chat or other applicable area.
    • Click 'Report Player'.
    • This will open a popup allowing you to select the appropriate reason for the report as well as allow you to add additional details.
    • Click ‘report’.

    You’ll receive a notice acknowledging your report and thanking you for your help in making Azeroth a better place to be. Should action be taken against the reported player, you’ll receive an additional thank you message in the weeks following your original report.

    Streamlining the System

    We’ve also taken some time to further streamline our system and penalties, allowing us to act more quickly, accurately, and (if necessary) more severely depending on the in-game violation.

    Looking Forward

    These updates are merely the beginning of our efforts to provide a better place to spend your time. We know that Azeroth is special to many of you, and we want to make sure it continues to be a place you want to call home.
    Interesting aspirations, but a more moderate beginning might be appropriate given even the player names i've seen in bgs the past few weeks ^^'

    Sieghail the warlock, a plethora of explicit parts and acts as names, the mage niggeradamus (or something like that), to name just the few i noticed. Now personally i don't mind most of these, but the playerbase obviously doesn't care either.
    How will they enforce this stuff if the far more basic rules already means nothing in practice?
    To say nothing of what might happen if they try to enforce punishment in injust or unlawful cases.

    Social contract is in that sense an interesting turn of phrase, since it is typically unspoken / unwritten, trying to force it may backfire in that sense as well.
    This is a signature of an ailing giant, boundless in pride, wit and strength.
    Yet also as humble as health and humor permit.

    Furthermore, I consider that Carthage Slam must be destroyed.

  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by Goat7 View Post
    I just do not believe they will be banning said "asshats" or even suspending accounts for actions against social contract. I mean cmon..... really u guys think that?

    Blizzard = Greedy ass company.
    Retail WoW = Lowest sub "active users" numbers in 20 year history. Your telling me they gonna ban or suspend these kids and reduce that number even more? Do you really think the social contract is going make any previous players return that have left?

    I just dont see it. This is all for show. Typical Blizzard move.
    You don't get BANNED for chat infractions you get silenced That way they can continue to make money off you and get you out of chat. I'm telling you guys, just leave all chat channels ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Quote Originally Posted by loras View Post
    Interesting aspirations, but a more moderate beginning might be appropriate given even the player names i've seen in bgs the past few weeks ^^'

    Sieghail the warlock, a plethora of explicit parts and acts as names, the mage niggeradamus (or something like that), to name just the few i noticed.
    Go to https://worldofwarcraft.com and click the magnifying glass on the right and type in words you think wouldn't be allowed lol
    My Collection
    - Bring back my damn zoom distance/MoP Portals - I read OP minimum, 1st page maximum-make wow alt friendly again -Please post constructively(topkek) -Kill myself

  16. #156
    Looks to me like more virtue signaling and little more.

    "Hey guys we hear you, here, you can be part of the solution now!" - meanwhile there'll be practically zero transparency or accountability for the actual system, we won't know how well it works if at all or what the process looks like "under the hood". We won't even know if this will increase the number of cases with sanctions compared to what we had before/have now.

    In short, this is a PR move first and foremost, with little to no indication as to how much it'll ACTUALLY affect the game's climate.

  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Iain View Post
    You'd think Blizzard would have invented more creative solutions against grieving by now. Like a camped corpse attracting dangerous mobs, or the player getting abilities in ghost form allowing them to haunt their camper.

    Way more fun than trying to draw some arbitrary and circumstantial line between what is playing the game as intended and what is being undermining another player's experience.
    If there is a pvp solution then it can't be greifing. You can always turn warmode off.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizah View Post
    why so mad bro

  18. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Sentynel View Post
    Lol, imagine feeling threatened in a video game
    Imagine being rude in a video game. :P

    Its not difficult to be nice... just like in real life the vast majority of people arent rude in public.

    I dont sign up to play an MMO to be someones psychiatrist who they can vent at when they get upset about something random.

  19. #159
    I feel so bad for the people and the AI bot that have to review these reports...

  20. #160

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