Sex Worker Allegedly Kills BF IN Miami

[NotBigzo]

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/in...ing-boyfriend/


Been following this case over the last few months. Basically, a sex worker had this relationship, and it was shaky. Things got to a head in April, and she stabbed him to death, claimed self-defense, and was finally charged with murder 4 months later. There were many instances where she alleged, he trafficked her and refused to leave her apartment after being kicked out, but the Miami DA's office gave their retelling of events contradicting this.

Edit: Bear with me as I gather more stuff pertaining to the case.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...yfans-1350597/


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...hssrp_catchall

[s_bushido]

Not sure there's much newsworthy about this. Murder sucks, and yet people still find reasons to do it.

[NotBigzo]

Not sure there's much newsworthy about this. Murder sucks, and yet people still find reasons to do it.

I think I overestimated the story's reach. Being a local guy in South Florida, the case was more widely discussed in local media.

I still have some questions though.

Why did they not issue the warrant until 4 months later? What new evidence came to light that led to the arrest? I always thought the whole thing seemed shady and my impression was that she killed the dude and feigned self-defense. The first red flag I got was her account to the police:

"Courtney told police she ran to the kitchen of their luxury Miami apartment, got a knife and threw it at her boyfriend from about 10 feet away after he grabbed her by the throat and shoved her against a wall, but the medical examiner believes the three-inch-deep stab wound to the chest that killed Christian was much more consistent with a "downward strike."


She's apparently out here throwing knifes and fatally hitting targets from 10 feet away on some Kitana from Mortal Kombat shit.

It'll be interesting if she gets off on Stand Your Ground. She just needs to establish that the dude was choking her out at that one instance.

[Milchshake]

Interesting the article title is "Instagram, OnlyFans model Courtney Clenney charged with murdering boyfriend". Other headlines only refer to her as an Onlyfans Model or Social Media Model.

Why does the OP feel the need to frame her as a "Sex Worker"?

Looks like a bored someone is fishing for a witch hunt. Or implying "the slut deserved it".

[Ghost of Cow]

Interesting the article title is "Instagram, OnlyFans model Courtney Clenney charged with murdering boyfriend". Other headlines only refer to her as an Onlyfans Model or Social Media Model.

Why does the OP feel the need to frame her as a "Sex Worker"?

Looks like a bored someone is fishing for a witch hunt. Or implying "the slut deserved it".

I mean, that has been a pretty commonly accepted term and even what a lot of people in that field refer to themselves as, but go ahead and let your insecurities run wild I guess.

[Jotaux]

Is this the one they have her on camera attacking the guy?

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

I think I overestimated the story's reach. Being a local guy in South Florida, the case was more widely discussed in local media.

I still have some questions though.

Why did they not issue the warrant until 4 months later? What new evidence came to light that led to the arrest? I always thought the whole thing seemed shady and my impression was that she killed the dude and feigned self-defense. The first red flag I got was her account to the police:

"Courtney told police she ran to the kitchen of their luxury Miami apartment, got a knife and threw it at her boyfriend from about 10 feet away after he grabbed her by the throat and shoved her against a wall, but the medical examiner believes the three-inch-deep stab wound to the chest that killed Christian was much more consistent with a "downward strike."


She's apparently out here throwing knifes and fatally hitting targets from 10 feet away on some Kitana from Mortal Kombat shit.

It'll be interesting if she gets off on Stand Your Ground. She just needs to establish that the dude was choking her out at that one instance.

I mean it probably just comes down to them needing to gather evidence. The medical examiner report stating it is more consistent with a downward strike is enough to raise suspicion...but no where near enough for a DA to take to trial. All the defense needs is to either get the medical examiner to state that it could have still been a throw or to get another examiner to disagree with the first and that's reasonable doubt.

And yeah, Stand Your Ground makes it even harder...because there is no duty to retreat. The DA has to show that she either initiated the attack, or that he disengaged from his attack and she re-initiated.

As far as knives goes...while it's usually considered very difficult to get a kill shot by throwing one...particulary one that is not balanced for throwing... it could have been a "lucky shot".

The article linked doesn't give a lot of information...but it doesn't mention any witnesses.

All that considered...I'm not surprised they took their time investigating this before charging. They must believe they either have a "smoking gun" or they can just pile on enough circumstantial evidence to get a conviction.

[Muzjhath]

Interesting the article title is "Instagram, OnlyFans model Courtney Clenney charged with murdering boyfriend". Other headlines only refer to her as an Onlyfans Model or Social Media Model.

Why does the OP feel the need to frame her as a "Sex Worker"?

Looks like a bored someone is fishing for a witch hunt. Or implying "the slut deserved it".

Probably because a lot of people who uses OnlyFans and similar sites as their primary income describe themselves as Sex Workers.
Even if all they sell is nudes.

And extremely often their line of work makes them exposed to prejudice. And the take I was from OP was more "why isn't there more outrage about his potential misscarriage of justice?"

[Milchshake]

Probably because a lot of people who uses OnlyFans and similar sites as their primary income describe themselves as Sex Workers.
Even if all they sell is nudes.

And extremely often their line of work makes them exposed to prejudice. And the take I was from OP was more "why isn't there more outrage about his potential misscarriage of justice?"

No Hon, spare us your "concern".
Please provide a quote were the young women describes herself as a sex worker. Hence all the major press is avoiding it. Even the NY Post.
Also wanting public acceptance for Sex Work, is very different than outting someone as a sex worker.

Outting people without informed consent is just showing intent to weaponize their life against them. The OP already declared her guilty before a trial or even charges. It's easy to see their biases.

[NotBigzo]

No Hon, spare us your "concern".
Please provide a quote were the young women describes herself as a sex worker. Hence all the major press is avoiding it. Even the NY Post.
Also wanting public acceptance for Sex Work, is very different than outting someone as a sex worker.

Outting people without informed consent is just showing intent to weaponize their life against them. The OP already declared her guilty before a trial or even charges. It's easy to see their biases.

Get off my dick.

She doesn't need to describe herself as one. If she's selling her body on Onlyfans, she falls under the sex worker umbrella. Many people on Onlyfans describe themselves as a sex worker.If I wanted to shame her or out her for being one, i'd use deragatory terms for sex work like "hoe" or "thot" or something.

Sex worker is shorter than Instagram/Onlyfans model.

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I mean it probably just comes down to them needing to gather evidence. The medical examiner report stating it is more consistent with a downward strike is enough to raise suspicion...but no where near enough for a DA to take to trial. All the defense needs is to either get the medical examiner to state that it could have still been a throw or to get another examiner to disagree with the first and that's reasonable doubt.

And yeah, Stand Your Ground makes it even harder...because there is no duty to retreat. The DA has to show that she either initiated the attack, or that he disengaged from his attack and she re-initiated.

As far as knives goes...while it's usually considered very difficult to get a kill shot by throwing one...particulary one that is not balanced for throwing... it could have been a "lucky shot".

The article linked doesn't give a lot of information...but it doesn't mention any witnesses.

All that considered...I'm not surprised they took their time investigating this before charging. They must believe they either have a "smoking gun" or they can just pile on enough circumstantial evidence to get a conviction.

There's a ton of other articles and stuff I can compile when time permits. There's a bit more stuff.

[Muzjhath]

A sex worker is not an Instagram model holy shit lmao.

Do you understand what a sex worker is?

A lot of people who make pornographic content self-idenfity as sex workers.
It covers far more than just prostitution.

And considering how heavily instagram etc police lots of those models? Yeah they face the same kind of stigma.

[Ghost of Cow]

A sex worker is not an Instagram model holy shit lmao.

Do you understand what a sex worker is?

Let me know when you familiarize yourself with this case.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

And the take I was from OP was more "why isn't there more outrage about his potential misscarriage of justice?"

Well, from the article linked in the OP...there really isn't much to go on to assume "miscarriage of justice". She is being charged with second degree murder... and a 4 month investigation leading up to those charges is not an excessive amount of time.

[NotBigzo]

Sex worker
A sex worker is a person who provides sex work, either on a regular or occasional basis.

I self identify as understanding the meaning of words. Being an Instagram model does not make you a sex worker. Providing actual sex is what makes you a sex worker, ya know hence the name



See above

Now define sex work:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_work

Sex work is "the exchange of sexual services, performances, or products for material compensation.[1][2] It includes activities of direct physical contact between buyers and sellers as well as indirect sexual stimulation"

We done here?

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Well, from the article linked in the OP...there really isn't much to go on to assume "miscarriage of justice". She is being charged with second degree murder... and a 4 month investigation leading up to those charges is not an excessive amount of time.

I should've linked articles to when the murder happend. There were a lot of people pissed that she wasn't arrested on the spot after being found covered in blood.:

https://www.tmz.com/watch/2022-04-07...ailor-1391697/


Also a bit of racial/gender commentary with the BF being a swole black dude. Ton of comments on local media saying if the roles were reversed he would've been booked on sight.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Edit: Bear with me as I gather more stuff pertaining to the case.


DA's Case for Murder


Rolling Stone Investigation Casting Doubt of her abuse claims

Maybe it's just me...but those links are coming up as dead.

[Edge-]

Maybe it's just me...but those links are coming up as dead.

add ":" after the HTTPS, it's missing for some reason

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...hssrp_catchall

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...yfans-1350597/

[NotBigzo]

Maybe it's just me...but those links are coming up as dead.

Replaced with shitty, raw links until I can figure out how hyperlinks work.

Thanks.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

I should've linked articles to when the murder happend. There were a lot of people pissed that she wasn't arrested on the spot after being found covered in blood.:

https://www.tmz.com/watch/2022-04-07...ailor-1391697/

Being covered in blood doesn't really contradict self-defense though. It may raise red flags... but it isn't a smoking gun.

From your own link:

According to Clenney’s lawyer, Frank Prieto, she had become soaked in Obumseli’s blood while trying to revive him. “She tried to administer first aid as best she could; she called 911,” Prieto tells Rolling Stone. “She got covered in his blood trying to save his life.”

Also a bit of racial/gender commentary with the BF being a swole black dude. Ton of comments on local media saying if the roles were reversed he would've been booked on sight.

While that's almost certainly true...it isn't evidence that she's guilty. Just evidence of bias and systemic racism.

Also, just to play devil's advocate, him being as jacked as he was would raise the question of "why would he need a weapon to defend himself against a woman half his size?"...even in the video from the elevator where she's clearly being the aggressor he's able to subdue her. I mean, that there is another example of bias itself (the assumption that a big strong man can't be abused by a smaller female)...but it is a question that people would ask in the case of a role reversal...even in a case where the dude was white.

[NotBigzo]

Being covered in blood doesn't really contradict self-defense though. It may raise red flags... but it isn't a smoking gun.

How about not police not seeing any viasble bruises? I know it's not the biggest red flag, as it's possible that they were there but the cops didn't spot them (similar to the police's handling of Laundrie/Pettito).

A history of questionable behavior DUIS, one known instance of beating ol dude in an elevator (etc).

By themselves it's not much. It's just the shit piles on.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

How about not police not seeing any viasble bruises? I know it's not the biggest red flag, as it's possible that they were there but the cops didn't spot them (similar to the police's handling of Laundrie/Pettito).

A history of questionable behavior DUIS, one known instance of beating ol dude in an elevator (etc).

By themselves it's not much. It's just the shit piles on.

Like I said, there may have been red flags...but it would all be circumstantial and none of it would directly contradict her version of events. Bruises don't always appear immediately, they probably didn't have the video of the elevator instance on the scene, and DUI's aren't indicative of a violent personality.

She did call 911 and he was still alive when the ambulance showed up... which supports her claim that she never intended to kill him. She could have waited until he bled out before calling 911.

This is not to say "I think she's innocent" (honestly, don't have enough information to say one way or the other) just that "I can see why they didn't arrest her on the scene"