Good old ghostwolf

[Omanley]

Sigh...

I knew... I just KNEW as soon as I saw the new druid models, that there would be a post within the day asking for a new ghostwolf. Anytime anyone gets anything, everyone else wants the same thing. Oy.

To be fair, blizz worked on druid forms already. The current catforms are what? 1.5 years old? Wasn't really pressing to make armors.

[Dasani]

It's not so much that we want the same thing, but druids have gotten a lot of new, pretty cool, gimmicky things so far this xpack.

I'm sure blizzard isn't close to done adding everything they want to add, but as a shaman I'm saying, "Where's the love for us! We want gimmicks too!"

I dunno man, turning into an elemental ascendant superman on cooldown seems like a cool new gimmick for shammies to me.

I mean admittedly the wolf model is old. I personally still like it though. But this kind of thing is just one of the things that really irks me. It just reminds me so much of all the spoiled children in my family. Whenever it is ANYONE's birthday, absolutely every single little brat has to get presents or they are just eat up with jealousy and envy. It's the most absurd and ridiculous thing ever and I just can't stand it, and when I see the same thing on WOW where someone gets something then the masses outcry for more things for their own class as a result, as if adding something upsets some kind of cosmic balance of the universe.

But still, I think shammies are getting some pretty cool stuff in mists. Only real downside to shammy changes i've seen is the loss of 100% uptime healing stream totem, everything else seems like a big improvement.

---------- Post added 2012-05-10 at 12:54 PM ----------

To be fair, blizz worked on druid forms already. The current catforms are what? 1.5 years old? Wasn't really pressing to make armors.

The armored form is a cop-out. Rather than using generic animal graphics (which are mostly old as a hill from vanilla) and rather than spending the time to create a genuinely new model with new animations and such, they just took the current models and slapped what looks like druid tier 5 on them. It is needed for some graphical differentiation for Incarnation while it's active without doing too much real work.

[Belbaim]

did Druid cats really need armor more then Shamans getting a better ghost wolf model? no. think about it.. this is a pretty legit good reason to make such a topic.

Well I didnt want to offend anyone ofc. Its just odd in my oppinion Ghostwolf isnt updated in such a long time. Yes ofc, it could be alot worse. But some love once and a while isnt all that bad. Once again, that is my humble oppinion. Its nice to see tho, that there are alot of different views on what would be nice to have as a replacement graphic =)

-B-

[Shadoop]

I dunno man, turning into an elemental ascendant superman on cooldown seems like a cool new gimmick for shammies to me.

I mean admittedly the wolf model is old. I personally still like it though. But this kind of thing is just one of the things that really irks me. It just reminds me so much of all the spoiled children in my family. Whenever it is ANYONE's birthday, absolutely every single little brat has to get presents or they are just eat up with jealousy and envy. It's the most absurd and ridiculous thing ever and I just can't stand it, and when I see the same thing on WOW where someone gets something then the masses outcry for more things for their own class as a result, as if adding something upsets some kind of cosmic balance of the universe.

But still, I think shammies are getting some pretty cool stuff in mists. Only real downside to shammy changes i've seen is the loss of 100% uptime healing stream totem, everything else seems like a big improvement.

If you're going to give a couple classes lots of cool "gimmick glyphs" (druids, mages, paladins, etc) it only seems fair to do the same for all classes. I'm sure blizzard intends to and just hasn't gotten around to it. I'm just eagerly anticipating the arrival of new shaman glyphs.

[Cptpoot]

Look, if Blizzard just used another model from the game, with some transparency... that would upset quite a few people. That is already a complaint people have about other things in the game.

If they don't have an all new model planned or already in production, it will probably not be changed.

And the act of taking one model, making the changes you all propose, getting it approved by a supervisor or director of the department, implementing it on the patch thats about to go live, and then responding to criticisms, would take much longer than 10 minutes. Every single change they make to things that already work and look well/acceptable is a huge time sink, when you include all the logistics that come with it the task.

I'm not saying I wouldn't enjoy it, but it's not like some designer can just swap models and not tell anybody about it (and keep his job).

If you're going to give a couple classes lots of cool "gimmick glyphs" (druids, mages, paladins, etc) it only seems fair to do the same for all classes. I'm sure blizzard intends to and just hasn't gotten around to it. I'm just eagerly anticipating the arrival of new shaman glyphs.

We were the first to get a gimmick glyph! We have arctic ghost wolf form!

[Veyne]

I'd really, really, really, really hate to be a spectral wolf. I'm all for a Ghost Wolf update, but I don't think the spectral style fits for the Ghost Wolf that the Shaman itself turns into.

[Santti]

I'd rather they focused on re-modeling the old races, rather than spend time on ghost wolf (doing one takes time from the other, after all, with limited resources). I don't usually spend much time as ghost wolf anyway so I don't mind if it remains as is.

[Dasani]

I think some people are confused as to what the armored forms are for... They aren't just some graphical update/improvement, they are used specifically for the Incarnation cooldown to give a visual representation in game when that buff is active because it's a big deal. When you see an armored cat or bear on the field, you know shit just got real. but when that armor falls off, it's same ol same ol.

[Shadoop]

I'd rather they focused on re-modeling the old races, rather than spend time on ghost wolf (doing one takes time from the other, after all, with limited resources). I don't usually spend much time as ghost wolf anyway so I don't mind if it remains as is.

I can't wait to see the new race models either!

[Dasani]

I'd rather they focused on re-modeling the old races, rather than spend time on ghost wolf (doing one takes time from the other, after all, with limited resources). I don't usually spend much time as ghost wolf anyway so I don't mind if it remains as is.

That's true too. You really don't spend much time in ghostwolf form in the first place, unlike druid forms which you're in 100% of the time as a druid. The old race models desperately need improvement, especially humans and orcs. They have to deal with their ugliness all the time.

[Agent Mercury]

No, you're right. It's definitely a 10 minute job. Sigh.

It take a *bit* more time than that, but you keep thinking that.

Personally, I don't mind the current Ghost Wolf model. Obviously, I'll take an updated model for it, but I'd prefer the team work on other model updates, namely the Trolls, Orcs, etc.

It would roughly take about that for one member of the models team to overlay a new skin template over say...the northrend worg. Very simple procedure. Implementation would take a similar amount of time changing out the spells base model.

---------- Post added 2012-05-10 at 02:05 PM ----------

I'm not saying it will take years, but it's not just drag and drop, either. If that's the case, why can't they just "implement" warlock's green fire? Surely, if Blizzard could do it in "10 minutes", they'd do so.

Also green fire is more difficult since it is multiple spells and effects compared to one model of a form. Unless you want them to hodgepodge you in a lot of enemy spells already in the game.

[Deleted]

I'd love my troll so much more if they could wear shoes! Those feet just disgust me.

Idd. And it fucks up all my transmog ideas aswell.

[Deleted]

I just assumed that druids were getting all the cool glyphs to compensate for the fact that they can't be Pandas?

[Management]

Druids really are getting alot of attention I feel. I mean, they might be one of the most played classes. Still, they got like 15 new things and shammies, what did we get? An old model for our ascendance CD that looks like crap and is really unfitting. I think the least we could ask for would be to take an OLD model, spectralize it and put it into the game files.

[Endus]

Druids really are getting alot of attention I feel. I mean, they might be one of the most played classes. Still, they got like 15 new things and shammies, what did we get? An old model for our ascendance CD that looks like crap and is really unfitting. I think the least we could ask for would be to take an OLD model, spectralize it and put it into the game files.

Ascendance is three brand-new, unique to Shaman, never-before-used models. And we've gotten a ton of new things as well.

[KCguy]

Ascendance is three brand-new, unique to Shaman, never-before-used models. And we've gotten a ton of new things as well.

It seems like a lot of people are complaining mainly about not having anything really cool. Yeah we get a few new spells and 3 brand-new models is great, but those models all tie into one spell and it depends on what you spec. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say, where is the cool glyphs like so many other classes are getting? You know, glyphs to make things change and what not. And as the OP mentioned, the ghost wolf! Come on Blizzard, throw us a bone on that at least Not to complain, mainly comparing, but when I see what other classes are getting and then what we have, it's very 'meh'. Don't get me wrong, they've gotten some things and I will still play my elemental shaman and I always will, I was just hoping for some cool glyphs. With a shaman, there is so many possibilities.

[Deleted]

Yeah, current ghost wolf looks like a model that was made 10 years ago.
Oh wait.

[Manu9]

Ascendance is three brand-new, unique to Shaman, never-before-used models. And we've gotten a ton of new things as well.

As new as the armored cats imo, because it's the ascendants with a few tweaks. But that's cool, I like it.

[Eleytwun]

Make it like this, but wolfish.

Nuff said

OMG! This! Skoll would be badass, but seriously, this is amazing.

[Protoman]

I'm not saying it will take years, but it's not just drag and drop, either. If that's the case, why can't they just "implement" warlock's green fire? Surely, if Blizzard could do it in "10 minutes", they'd do so.

In the case of replacing GW with another form, if that form already exists then it is as easy as drag and drop. Like the Arctic Wolf, the model is in the game already so the glyph simply replaces the reg model with the new one. They could prob make a glyph for the blue lightning worg everyone is mentioning and easily have that as an alternate skin. I personally think the base model should get an update to the polygon count to make it look less blocky and more smooth and detailed. Maybe give it some cool fur patterned runes.

For warlock green fire, they would need to copy all the fire spells and make a diff file of the same spell with a different color and replace that in the spell so it executes the green fire animation instead of the regular one. They made it sound like they would have to do this from scratch, and while I am not a mastery of 3d design I am pretty sure you can take an existing graphic and change the color tones however you want....so while it wouldn't be simple, it isn't as complex as creating a brand new spell animation.

And as for Dance animations, I think the dog dance can be used for any dog or animal that walks on four feet. It's the same as how any race dance can be used on any race as long as they stand on two feet. There might be some clipping and overlapping if the model is too big or small but thats easier to adjust then making it from scratch.

I will agree though that I'd rather see actual race updates first before they mess with ghost wolf. But alternate skins via minor glyphs shouldn't be too much trouble and they are supposed to dedicate some time to shaman minor glyphs regardless.