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I come from a time and a place where I judge people by the content of their character; I don't give a damn if you are tall or short; gay or straight; Jew or Gentile; White, Black, Brown or Green; Conservative or Liberal. -- Note to mods: if you are going to infract me have the decency to post the reason, and expect to hold everyone else to the same standard.
The Schutzstaffel did not have compulsory service. He applied to the SS knowing full well what they stood for (when the Weimar Republic fell, the fact that the SS and the Sturmabteilung before them were the Nazi party's personal terrorists was a well known fact in Germany.) If he did for the "extra pay," then he traded his morality in a mercenary transaction and deserves to rot in prison for it. People died because he wanted to make a few extra dollars? ROFL
Justice; it must be served and it will be, regardless of what revisionists on these boards think.
Just deport him and get it over with. He willfully chose to serve evil instead of sacrificing himself for good and potentially saving lives. Hopfully the Mossad finds him.
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.
Revelation 6:8
In Nanking there was a special zone where the Japanese weren't to attack. That zone were for the Nazi's. When Japan started raping, torturing, and killing babies, children, and women and men the Nazi's there were so appalled that they opened their gates to let in the Chinese. At this point the Japanese began to get very irate and demanded they be let in from time to time. So the Nazi's would let the Japanese in and they would select a few people, usually kids, which would then be raped, and used for practice. There are quite a few pictures of how horribly overcrowded it was to the point you had people on top of people pushed up against the gates.
>tries to justify america
>MURICA nukes 2 japanese cities in ww2
>MURICA killed thousands of kids in vietnam with Napalm bombs and code Orange
worst part about it is that these soldiers who fought in Vietnam probs killed a lot more than a SS camp guard but the Vietnam soldiers are seen as war hero's.
Love american logic.
We nuked Japan on August 6, 1945. The Soviet Union declared war on Japan on August 8, 1945. We nuked Japan again on August 9, 1945. The Soviet Union was obviously stunned by our show of force and there are credible historians that make the case that the Soviet Union was pacified as a result of our actions in Japan for a while, so who knows how many more innocent people dying we spared by doing this? Act Utilitarianism: the act was justified because it ended up saving more people ultimately anyway. I'm not even considering how many Japanese soldiers, other civilians, etc, were spared their lives because of the bombings in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the aforementioned calculus.
Right because being forced to serve under a strict regime is alright. He totally should have just gotten himself executed for treason. It's not like the Nazi's had a shortage of soldiers. Of course, anyone that isn't a suicidal nutbag would choose mandatory service over death.
Well we could have invaded which would have led to a longer battle and millions of lives lost. Both the Japanese and the Americans projected millions of lives lost if it came to a battle like that.
1-200k people were affected by the bomb. Versus a couple million dying on both sides. Not really there weren't "plenty" of options. Wait till Japan concedes, in the mean time they keep attacking?
Riveting revisionist history, but Vietnam veterans were never seen as War Heroes and they were spat upon when they returned home. Many of them were heroes, but were treated like garbage. I just thought I'd point out your blatant historical error and the fact that your biases cloud your reporting of actual history. peace, G
Yeah mate, there was another option. Do a conventional invasion of Japan with Navy and Army troops landed in the old fashioned way. Then they fight their way through thousands of completely loyal Japanese soldiers and citizens who were told by their Emperor (who was considered a god) that the Americans were there to rape and murder every single one of them.
Tens of millions of people would have died. A significant portion of the Japanese population would have, at the time, fought to the death.
I would also note that we TOLD the Japanese government that we were gonna do it. We gave them the opportunity to surrender. They refused. We dropped the bomb. We told them AGAIN that we'd do it a second time. Second refusal. They got the point after that.
It's not even just the rape of Nanking. Nanking just happens to be the biggest city it happened to and one of the most important sections. Japan did this ALL THE WAY to Nanking to just about every town, village, city, that was between them and their goal. Japan killed more pows than they other country as well. Nazi's treated pows better and more often they weren't killed, where as the Japanese killed pows for sport.
It was actually, if you served in the wehrmacht and were a prision guard/ administrative staff member then you were absorbed into the waffen ss.
If you want the sources/ proof i can link you some (very easy to google though, just check the 1942 concentration/ prision camp absorption into waffen - ss. Alot of them were just normal men staying off the frontlines or young men on first postings).
Wow, I had no idea. I knew the Nazis were in the Middle East, Africa, and South America, but I never once thought they had forces as far as China.
Still, their actions don't surprise me. Most of the Reich's soldiers were good and honorable men, I think. I'd be willing to be that if you showed them what was taking place in the death camps, almost all of them would be absolutely shocked.
I feel that it's implausible that an entire nation could be evil, but good men can be easily misled.
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Also, they occasionally cooked and ate them. Can't forget about that!