Warning: Let's keep the discussion civil please.
I apologise for the delay I'm working.
Ok we're on two completely different fields.
No one is arguing the decriminalisation of the "selling of services" (sorry guys its getting late and my English isn't as good as I wish it would be). It is ridicolous that proper developed country still find itself in this mess.
Having saying that. Fully legalised prostitution isn't the same thing.
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Ah now it's not me any ore it's my source...
My source wanted to separate them?
Ill quote it again.
""How many Amsterdam prostitutes are there?"
Around 1,000 prostitutes work in Amsterdam on any given day, and a few hundred of them work behind the windows in the Red Light District. The others work in clubs, brothels, for escort services or from home. Totally, the city has about 400 such windows, with the big majority of them located at the Wallen in the Red Light District."
Read it up please. Nowhere it says such thing.
Are we going to continue this for much longer?
The dangers are linked to the illegality of it. If it weren't illegal, it wouldn't be hard for a prostitute to have a panic button she could use to call the cops in a John turned out to be abusive or dangerous. Because it's illegal right now, prostitutes have no such protections, aside from their pimps, who can often be more abusive than the clients.
'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
Or a yawing hole in a battered head
And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
And there they lay I damn me eyes
All lookouts clapped on Paradise
All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
The only thing that makes prostitution illegal is the criminalization of the selling of their services. Legalizing it means decriminalizing it. That's all it means. I have no idea why you're trying to create an artificial distinction as if anyone were talking about something else, since that's what we've been talking about this entire time.
'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
Or a yawing hole in a battered head
And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
And there they lay I damn me eyes
All lookouts clapped on Paradise
All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
Not necessarily. Again, in a fully legalised environment I would suddenly think about the brothels away from the red light district. The ones where lights aren't shiny and controls aren't frequent.
What I am saying is fully legalising it on its own would not give you the benefits you and i all are looking for.
To do that you need to tackle human trafficking and criminalise users.
The rest could work could not work we don't know it works in a few places completely different from big countries where not only it wouldn't address the issue but has the potential to cause a lot of social and physical harm.
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No man. Fully legalised prostitution isn't the same as allowing, as Canada does, privates selling services on their own. Completely different.
Last edited by mmocea043e1e13; 2013-01-09 at 05:37 PM.
I'm from Germany, here it's legal and controlled.
Illegal = Mafia-like underground structures. Diseases everywere. Prostitutes are often abused and forced. Infected customers spread diseases to friends and family.
Legal = taxes (yes, Germany is taxing whores), basic social security (no starving and doing horrible things like old prostitutes had to do in the past to get money), healthcare for them (good for everybody involved), government controls the brothels for hygiene and talk to the prostitutes (helps to prevent abuse). Customers don't get sick and infect their families.
So 100% for legal and controlled. Also 0 tolerance for teenager prostitution, sex slaves from eastern europe and all the other bad things happening "underground".
Fact ist, you can't stop prostitution. It always existed, legal or illegal. Even some animals prostitute themself for food.
Atoms are liars, they make up everything!
You mean like the population that already uses the services of prostitutes, albeit with a significantly reduced population? You seem to be implying that all men who hire prostitutes are sadists. I'm pretty confident in saying that this is far from the truth. The majority of people would go for the legal and far, far safer route of the legal method.
If you don't see how decriminalizing something removes it from criminal activity, I don't really know what to tell you. Prostitution is intrinsically connected to underground organizations because of its legal status.What I am saying is fully legalising it on its own would not give you the benefits you and i all are looking for.
To do that you need to tackle human trafficking and criminalise users.
What social and physical harm can it cause? You're being very general for the purposes of not having something to elaborate on.The rest could work could not work we don't know it works in a few places completely different from big countries where not only it wouldn't address the issue but has the potential to cause a lot of social and physical harm.
By being as selective as possible in our perception of how the social structure of a state works, of course!
'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
Or a yawing hole in a battered head
And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
And there they lay I damn me eyes
All lookouts clapped on Paradise
All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
Well, I always viewed it as disgusting, immoral, and the prostitutes should just die.
But now and then you hear of a prostitute (or moreso, strippers) who HATE the job but do it to feed a kid or something like that. So it's a difficult one
'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
Or a yawing hole in a battered head
And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
And there they lay I damn me eyes
All lookouts clapped on Paradise
All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
Not sure if all but I'm pretty sure many are. Considering all the information about human trafficking there is out there you really have to live in a cave, or don't give a fuck about others.
You don't see how? Where would prostitutes come from?
Social harm cause it interact with relationship. A lot.
Physical cause it does. Tenfold chances to get std's, even in a legal environment mind you, possible physical abuse that DOES happen...
Come on I mean its not like I'm saying the state will come and take your kids.