Haven't been a big fan of a lot of Obama's policies, but I actually don't have a problem with these. I like that they are focused on background checks for gun purchases and mental health more than "RAWR, RESTRICT GUNS!"
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You're just proving that warrants are dead easy to get, which was the original point. "Yeah, this guy went to Florida for only one day, search his car and house for drugs."
There are plenty of other cases where hearsay was sufficient.
Probable cause exists when an officer has either personal knowledge or trustworthy Hearsay from an informant or witness.
Even hearsay can supply probable cause if it is from a reliable source or supported by other evidence, according to the Aguilar–Spinelli test.
Information used to establish probable cause need not be admissible in court: E.g., "hearsay," or even "double hearsay."
You're wrong. And it's very clear you haven't done even a modicum of research on the subject, since there's plenty of other sources out there which say the same thing.
Yes, cops will need a warrant to search for illegal guns. No, such a warrant won't be all that hard for them to get if they have any kind of evidence that you've got them.
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And other kids aren't at risk? The idea of some international plot to kidnap the first family like a hollywood movie is more far fetched than a parent kidnapping their kid because they lost custody. That is a lot more likely to happen, but, who cares about poor people in America.
Unless I'm missing something, that law doesn't have anything to do with assault weapons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_H...Prevention_Act
So wait, first you say "well Gates V. Illinois voided Aguilar-Spinelli" and now you're linking to shit about Aguilar-Spinelli. Uh and I'm pretty sure asking police to leave my property and them complying is reason enough. As I pointed out, actual police work takes place in between hearsay and warrant.
In May 1978, the Bloomingdale, Illinois Police Department received an anonymous letter. The letter stated, "This letter is to inform you that you have a couple in your town who strictly make their living on selling drugs. They are Sue and Lance Gates, who live on Greenway, off Bloomingdale Rd. in the condominiums. Most of their buys are done in Florida. Sue, his wife, drives their car to Florida, where she leaves it to be loaded up with drugs, then Lance flies down and drives it back. Sue flies back after she drops the car off in Florida. May 3 she is driving down there again and the car back he has the trunk loaded with over $100,000.00 in drugs. Presently they have over $100,000.00 worth of drugs in their basement. They brag about the fact they never have to work, and make their entire living on pushers. I guarantee, if you watch them carefully you will make a big catch. They are friends with some big drug dealers who visit their house often."
Detective Mader decided to follow up on the tip, obtaining further information that an "L. Gates" had purchased an airline ticket leaving from Chicago's O'Hare Airport and arriving in West Palm Beach, Florida. Working with the DEA, Mader was able to ascertain that Gates had boarded the plane and arrived in West Palm Beach. The DEA surveillance team determined that Gates had met a woman at a Holiday Inn room registered to Susan Gates and that the couple had gotten into a car together driving toward the Chicago area. They estimated the pair due back in Bloomingdale within 22 to 24 hours.
Mader signed an affidavit laying down the events as they had unfolded, in addition to the anonymous letter. A judge of the Circuit Court of DuPage County issued a warrant. Upon the Gateses' arrival home, the Bloomingdale Police searched the car, recovering over 350 lb. of marijuana. A search of the Gateses' residence led to the discovery of additional marijuana and weapons.
Again, important shit is bolded. Now, back to my previous point: In Illinois v. Gates, probable cause was achieved for the warrant under the new "totality-of-the-circumstances" standard because the investigation by DEA and Detective Mader would have, on its own, been probable cause for a search warrant.
This rejected the Aguilar–Spinelli test and put in place a totality-of-the-circumstances standard. This was put into place because the court recognized that there was more evidence that the Gateses were involved in drug trafficking than just the letter standing alone. The court agreed that if the letter had just stood alone it would not be probable cause to get a warrant
Aleros, I'm looking at these with an open mind, however, you appear to continue your attacks on the right, Why is that? If I was to go after Obama for ANYthing he did today I'd go after him for using those kids as props and exploiting them, but I haven't... I'm still reading the Executive Orders and mulling over the ramifications. Thus, I've no reason to attack, demonize, belittle, denigrate or otherwise verbally abuse anyone, unlike you.
I guess you finished reading them and have returned to your attack mode. Jolly good show.
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So you can't see any reason at all why it might be sensible to provide protection to the family of the President of the US? They're no more in danger of kidnapping attempts or attacks by zealots or lunatics than any other kids in the country? Don't you feel kind of silly while typing that?
Huzzah America is finally leaning to leaving third-world gun regulations!
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Actually, you might want to check out what the NRA Pres said not less than a couple weeks ago about putting officers in the schools... and the left went complete batshit over it. Today Obama came out with putting them in the schools. I'm waiting for the left to call him batshit crazy too.
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