Why can't you use software or hardware to gain an edge? Did they do their run with a standard two button mouse? Standard keyboard? Did any have a naga or multi button mouse? Did they use WoWhead to research abilities? Did they use chat rooms to talk about what to do before hand? Your rules are arbitrary because you are creating them to allow cheating.
When does the timer for a run actual start? When you start the run (first zone in to start stacking the debuff) or when you start the timer after you reset it to gain an advantage? Either way it doesn't add up to the fastest speed run because the timer is inaccurate to the actual time spent doing the run.
Also they used addons, which are third party software, to complete their run. It broke your own rules and is therefore cheating. Or are you going to now create new rules?
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You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
Nice job. Don't worry about the small people that complain about cheating/exploiting whenever something is done in the non-obvious and non-intended way.
not that you wouldn't see the record time if you wanted to anyway
A previous record was set using the reset trick but they didn't stack it by kiting. The response was pretty much "hey, nicely done!"
The butthurt pedants here are just that. It's up to people wanting fast runs to find what gives an edge. As long as that available to anyone with the skill to master it then I can't see how people can even think its cheating.
If people want to get arsey over something then they should whine about dk's controlling undead in SM and raping the instance with it at high stacks.
I didn't say it, big grats to the guys that managed this. Very impressive.
But why is it a fast run when they've already spent X time doing a run? You have to aid the time they spent getting the debuff to the time they started the counter for the true time of the speed run. Anything else is just manipulating the clock to give yourself a faster time. Which is why it is cheating and why it isn't a legitimate time.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
I don't see how people liken this to cheating in sports and such, which are one-time competitive events.
Challenge Modes are an ongoing event. Anyone can come in and beat someone else's time at any point. That includes any point after the discovery of certain tactics that can cut some more time off the clock. It's not like these guys got the world record time through 'cheating' and it's unbreakable.
You sound mad.
Its not like this group of 5 were the first 5 people to use this "Trick" or "Cheat" as you like to put it, when it clearly isn't. The resetting of the instance to start with a stack of like 15 or so, is a common thing for getting Gold in Siege, this group of 5 took that one step further and kept the debuff the entire dungeon, which took skill.
The Resetting of the instance has no reason to reset the debuff, there is no block of code that states > if enterDungeon(0, 0) { clearDebuff } < as you seem to think there is, you can enter plenty of dungeons with a full row of DoT's from a warlock on you and then proceed to die, common knowledge at this point to use the debuff as a buffer.
is that not exploiting? i am sure the developers did not intend said buff to be obtained inside then instance reset and buff kept to have a clear advantage. personally i hope its fixed and you loose your ranking. a full or nearly 2 min ahead of the next rank group that ran it? yea thats exploiting only reason it hasnt been caught and done something about yet is... you guessed it nobody cares about challenge modes
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they used addons so they fail right there end of story. Also the guy made a brand new account to brag about how they cheated to get a World record lmao go outside and play some more and maybe cheating to get a world record on a video game wont be the highlight of your life.
This will be fixed soon and I can see the time being removed. Clearly an exploit. And you think otherwise, post the video into the WOW forums.
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Umm, what? Almost every single CM has a 'gimmick' to it in order to push the fastest times because you need to think outside the box and do everything you can to really push a fast time. Maybe you had fast times a month ago but with spreed running it almost means nothing since the leader boards change so much.
Very impressive tactic. Definitly some norwegian people in that group