Originally Posted by High Overlord Saurfangi7-6700 @2.8GHz | Nvidia GTX 960M | 16GB DDR4-2400MHz | 1 TB Toshiba SSD| Dell XPS 15
The ONLY reason Gilneas could stand up to Sylvanas' might was because they were immune to the plague and it was completely unexpected. The rest of the Alliance is majorly susceptible to it and would fall quickly if we're speaking logically. But since this is a Blizzard game the Alliance would be able to somehow outsurvive anything the Horde could throw at it's doorstep.
Originally Posted by High Overlord Saurfangi7-6700 @2.8GHz | Nvidia GTX 960M | 16GB DDR4-2400MHz | 1 TB Toshiba SSD| Dell XPS 15
Not likely. She's lost half her Val'kyr fighting over Lordaeron. How can she be expected to conquer Gilneas, Arathi, Ironforge and Stormwind when she can barely hold her own borders?
I always imagined she was capable of taking Lordaeron at least, but the neutral factions there would very likely stop her. Maybe just Arathi Highlands and Hinterlands.
One faction (Undead) versus four (Dwarves, Humans, Gnomes, Worgen)? I see that going well, especially against the gnomes and their tactical nukes/dirty bombs.
"Varian will march on our borders and destroy us!" -Sylvanas Windrunner, Tides of War
Even if you think she was exaggerating in that scene, the fact that no one disagreed with her implies the Alliance forces in the EK are significantly stronger than the Horde forces there.
If you call being left to do it on their own "full support". The Orcs never had full support from the Legion for anything they did. Even when they were personally directed by Kil'Jaeden, the Orcs were doing things themselves. Full support of the Legion would be like WotA or Mount Hyjal.
you realize one faction (Scourge) was capable of defeating every faction on Azeroth.
It has been said multiple times that if the LK unleashed his entire army, he would have taken over Azeroth a long time ago.
The Alliance/Horde were quite fortunate that Arthas actually held The Scourge back.
In practical terms, if the Forsaken geared up for it, they could probably sieze control of everything north of the ruin of Stonewrought Dam. An aggressive campaign could even sweep down and around to occupy everything north of Blackrock except for Dun Murogh.
Holding it all is another matter altogether, though. Ironforge is the most impregnable fortress left on Azeroth, and unless one could completely control Stormwind and/or destroy the Deeprun Tram, it could be resupplied indefinitely (notwithstanding mages and the like). Granted, a Forsaken army isn't like most, it necessarily has no need of resupply other than weapons and armor, but ultimately, they couldn't hold all that territory against an Alliance rally to support Ironforge.
I'm sorry, but there's a thousand and one reasons why the forsaken would be crushed here. Hell, they wouldn't even make it to Ironforge. With the Scourge dealt with and the Scarlet Crusade all but wiped out, the Argent Crusade has taken territory and solidified it's hold on everything east of Andorhal. Not to mention Tirion is the Ashbringer and the Ebon Blade is nearby. Speaking of which, they might already be pissed off about the whole Koltira thing, especially with Thassarian sneaky around N. Lordaeron after what happened.
You also have to consider that the Worgen are extremely unconventional in their means and Ivar Bloodfang and his ferals are more than willing to use terror tactics. Also they're immune to the plague and are supported by the 7th Legion. They still hold Gilneas.
Sylvanas is already stepping on the toes of people that specialize in dealing with the undead and their tactics. Not looking good for the forsaken.
Since when?
If talking about the Second War - the Horde lost not because they were weak but do to civil war.
If talking bout now, most of the Horde is focused bout Kalimdor more than the Eastern Kingdoms
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Sylvannas herself is no chump in war or strategy either
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
How could the Forsaken even get to Dun Morogh without anyone noticing. They have to go past Aerie Peak, so the Wildhammers would definitely warn them about the army coming.
I'm a forsaken and a Sylvanas fan-boy, but I don't think it is very plausible she could take over the entire eastern kingdoms. She could expand a bit more for sure, but I don't think the forsaken could expand too much either. Because they would be stretched to thin, they already are in a way.
I mean the forsaken has enemies all around them, even the horde doesn't fully trust them.. they got to be smart, and pick their battles.
Oh but don't be so quick to dismiss the forsaken's abilities, after all one of the 3 leaders of the royal apothecary society is an undead dwarf. She's an engineer/tinker type, and in charge of making all kinds of weapons for the forsaken.The Forsaken dont have any anti tank tech from what I have seen. Some shitty catapults seem to be about the extent of their artillery capabilities.
Last edited by Azutael; 2013-07-26 at 05:03 AM.