Should the Timewalkers Become A Playable Class? [5.4 Spoilers, suggestions]

[Teriz]

When did they say that?

Read about it at some other forum. It's probably just a rumor though.

[Therougetitan]

When did they say that?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...ts-Patch-4-3.5

Greg Street: Remarkably, we keep creating continents, whole plots, when we need new ones. And there's a greater multi-verse outside of that one planet. We went to a different place in the Burning Crusade expansion and we can easily do that again, there's other dimensions, the Emerald Dream to explore. We have the mechanic with the Caverns of Time we're talking about what if we made an expansion that was all back in time. Let players play at the height of the Night Elf civilization, for example, that would be a cool expansion. So I'm not worried about running out of ideas any time soon.

[Rhamses]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...ts-Patch-4-3.5

The plot thickens.....

[myathe]

Here's a new tinfoil hat thing to throw into this thread... On the official forums, there's a thread [5.4 Spoilers] Stormwind Harbor Where Zarhym says (forgive me for not knowing how to make a copy of a blue post):

Hello, Alliance.

Howdy, Horde.

Understandably, there's a lot of rampant speculation about a version of Stormwind Harbor that has been found in the 5.4 PTR files with virtually no context behind what's going on in that environment, or where, how, and why it could be in the game. That should be relative to the time you spend drawing conclusions about what you know so far of this alternate Stormwind Harbor environment.

Food for thought! Happy Friday.

A few pieces of this seem funny, like the use of the phrase 'relative to the time' (*ahem*) and 'alternate' Stormwind environment? Does that mean maybe it is a vision? Or is it an alternate future or possible future or present? Do the Timewalkers, since the Timeless Isle happens at the same time that we are attacking Garrosh, have anything to do with the Org raid? Is this a pivotal moment in time, perhaps, where the fate of the Horde is not so certain, one of those points where the future is in flux, and not a fixed point like, say, Thrall escaping Durnholde, and thus places like the Timeless Isle open up? Hmmm... *runs around flailing*

[Aquamonkey]

Why? WHY? WHY DOES EVERYONE KEEP SAYING THAT DRAGONS ARE MORTAL NOW?! Dragons ARE NOT MORTAL! Even Blizzard has clarified this! The only thing that the Aspects lost were their Titan-gifted powers! They are still extremely long-lived, ancient beings of physical power and magical prowess! They aren't mortal, so stop CALLING them mortal! The 'Age of Mortals' was simply a Medivh thing, saying that the power to protect the world has passed into the hands of normal folk like the players and mortal NPCs.

You even said it yourself: "long-lived". Something that is long-lived is still mortal.

Q. In the Cataclysm finale, the Dragon Aspects became mortals. But are they still powerful dragons that just lost the blessing of the Titans?
Yes. For example, the bronze dragons can still travel through time, but they are no longer able to control the flow of time. The blue dragons are still powerful mages, but no longer control the magic of Azeroth. Therefore, in Age of Mortals, mortals themselves need to take over what used to be the responsibility of the Aspects. (Source)

[Sukhoi]

I have no problem seeing how the healer would work, reverse time to go back before damage happened, but what would be the concept of the tank and dps relating to a time class?

[Aquamonkey]

I have no problem seeing how the healer would work, reverse time to go back before damage happened, but what would be the concept of the tank and dps relating to a time class?

Time slow field for tanks making attacks easier to dodge. Time speed field making dps hit faster. Or temporal distortion fields to tear apart the enemy. Can also give them some gravity-based abilities.

[Sukhoi]

time slow field for tanks making attacks easier to dodge. Time speed field making dps hit faster. Or temporal distortion fields to tear apart the enemy. Can also give them some gravity-based abilities.

omg make the scout a physical ranged. I want to play as xigbar

[Teriz]

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...ss-Time-Warden

I guess that guy was on to something.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Honestly I don't think we'll see a Caverns of Time expansion ever. It'd be too split between the zones. Not just in story and location, but in time itself.

One zone you're in the War of the Ancients, then you're in the 3rd War, suddenly you're in the future, then you're raiding with Agewyn, and the next tier you're facing Illidan alongside Arthas...

And all the escort dungeons.... ooh all the escorts.

If Cata could pull it off, CoT would never pull it off.

[Saiyoran]

Someone PLEASE post this on official forums as a suggestion rather than a "is this happening?" type of thing. I don't think this is planned any time soon, but it COULD be if Blizzard saw demand for it, and a time expansion is something GC said was very possible and could work out very well (or very badly if leveling were done like Cata, but whatever).

[Florena]

Someone PLEASE post this on official forums as a suggestion rather than a "is this happening?" type of thing. I don't think this is planned any time soon, but it COULD be if Blizzard saw demand for it, and a time expansion is something GC said was very possible and could work out very well (or very badly if leveling were done like Cata, but whatever).

Eh, if I were to advocate for a class it wouldn't be timewalker. Sure, I'd take it over demon hunter, and wouldn't mind it, but I'm not really sold this is the best blizz could do.

[Teriz]

Eh, if I were to advocate for a class it wouldn't be timewalker. Sure, I'd take it over demon hunter, and wouldn't mind it, but I'm not really sold this is the best blizz could do.

Agreed. I still believe that Tinkers are the obvious choice for the next class. While this class is a very strong contender, there is still some overlap with Mages, and I'm wary about Time magic being spread over all three roles. Tinkers overlap with nothing, and their roles are a bit more obvious.

[Florena]

Agreed. I still believe that Tinkers are the obvious choice for the next class. While this class is a very strong contender, there is still some overlap with Mages, and I'm wary about Time magic being spread over all three roles. Tinkers overlap with nothing, and their roles are a bit more obvious.

They overlap with engineers, so I'm not sure I want to see a tinker class honestly, but I'm open to it if blizz does it well.

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While I wouldn't mind time walkers though, I really think that visiting the past is something best left to caverns of time instances and quests like the ones in Vashj'ir where you become that naga lady. I wouldn't want to see a whole expansion dedicated to showing us history instead of moving the plot forward. It would be an incredibly hard sell for me to get invested in.

[Therougetitan]

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...ss-Time-Warden

I guess that guy was on to something.

I think this would be more fitting than a "Timewalker" since that's an organization for all classes. Time Warden could be more specialized helpers.

[Florena]

I'd rather just see a Dragonsworn class rather than a time specific one though. Maybe something like the undead skins for DK where they can have mildly draconic skins.

Just tossing out ideas, but have:

1. Battlemage like blue aspect spec for melee dps, with a couple ranged spells like rets and enhance shammies.

2. Tanking spec or healing spec based on red dragons. (Life does spring from their flames afterall.)

3. Healing based bronze spec.

Very rough idea, but that's what I'd rather see than three time based specs in one class. Would give us the closest thing to battle mage we could probably hope for as well. Left greens out because I'm not completely sure how to do a green flight based spec without making it too druid like.

[Ogawdspider]

I don't think this is a bad idea at all. I think it is rather creative.

We have done time based dungeons before though.. Everything in Caverns of time...

[Stiven]

What I have been able to see we gonna only get a tabard from Timewalker not a class :P

[Futhark]

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...ss-Time-Warden

I guess that guy was on to something.

I was wondering when someone would post this gem. Classic.

I really can't understand the sudden appearance of the Timeless Isle. Nothing precluded it or even hinted towards its existence. It's very un-Blizzard like... unless it is setting up something like this idea?

[von Richthofen]

This is kind of interesting since they wrote up dialogue for them describing roles within the organization, that seem to coincide with the triad of tank/healer/DPS. Definitely seems like an interesting class concept if that is what they are going towards.

Then there's the Ghostcrawler interview mentioning a time travel expansion concept. Wrathion is warning us of a Legion invasion, and wants to unite Azeroth to stand against it. If there was some past hero or heroes that could help with Wrathion's agenda, or villains that may imperil it, perhaps time travel could be used to alter events to make sure those heroes are alive in the present or the villains don't exist to put Azeroth's defense in jeopardy.

Alternatively, they may be part of one of the unannounced features, as their lore might be used to justify running the old raids. The Warden says, "Those who meddle with the time ways for their own selfish ways are often dangerous."

I'm having trouble finding the actual quotes for the hints about the feature, but it was compared to LFD and LFR and, "A lot of players have suggested that they be able to do older content, so it is something along those lines."

So, if the new feature is a 'LFR' for old content, they might add some lore as to why this is happening. Perhaps we join the Timewalkers and we take up the roles of Wardens, Weavers, or Watchers and play through the old raids. Insert baddie here is threatening the time ways, trying to save Arthas, Ragnaros, Illidan, and so forth from being defeated, so we need to re-fight those battles to make sure everything is as it should be, while picking up transmog gear and maybe some other rewards along the way.