Still No Word On Any Compensation For these nerfs?

[demonik]

I noticed there still hasn't been any word on any compensation for the nerfs to these spells:

• fel armor damage reduction removed
• rain of fire's reduced chance for ember generation

Has there been any word on this at all from blizzard? I apologize if this has been talked about already or if there has already been some type of response from blizzard regarding this. If there has been something said about this please share thank you.


Also does anyone else feel that glyph of eternal resolve is lousy, not because of its effect but because we have to sacrifice a very good spell's effect for it.will happen to the 4 piece bonus we get from the pvp set if we choose that glyph?

[Deleted]

Yes
All mage damage has been increased by 30% to be higher than warlocks
Only logic solution after all these nerfs

[Bluesftw]

that glyph is beyond terribad... still waiting for something usefull like glyph to make fel flame extend dots again

[Count Zero]

that glyph is beyond terribad... still waiting for something usefull like glyph to make fel flame extend dots again

Almost certainly what the re-worked Everlasting Affliction glyph would be, although at this point I'm wondering if that's still going to happen

[Deleted]

Almost certainly what the re-worked Everlasting Affliction glyph would be, although at this point I'm wondering if that's still going to happen

Major Glyphs

Glyph of Everlasting Affliction has been replaced by Glyph of Eternal Resolve.
Glyph of Eternal Resolve: Changes Unending Resolve into a passive ability that provides a constant 10% reduction to damage taken.

I don´t think so.

[Deleted]

Working under the false assumption that you're entitled to compensation for changes to your class you don't like.

[lunchbox2042]

Working under the false assumption that you're entitled to compensation for changes to your class you don't like.

Or working under the assumption that devs wouldwill do what they said they would. I know that's a difficult concept these days.

[Biomega]

Fel Armor has mostly PvP implications, and is likely supplanted by the new UR glyph.

Destro is in a nasty spot right now. They have promised something to compensate for the loss of RoF embers, but not delivered so far. That makes Destro the worst spec BY FAR and would essentially mean nobody would be using it. I do expect them to implement something to compensate, but you never know how these people are thinking...

[FurtyIRL]

Working under the false assumption that you're entitled to compensation for changes to your class you don't like.

Earlier in the tier the devs essentially said they were mostly happy with warlock damage but thought the defensive capability was a little too high, which I think everyone can agree with. Now that they've neutered soul leech and fel armor it's a little mystifying why they want to do a class rework on playstyle too ...

[Deleted]

So warlock have a 10% dmg reduction passive, that no other dps have, blizzard remove it, and warlocks cry. Nice logic.

[FurtyIRL]

So warlock have a 10% dmg reduction passive, that no other dps have, blizzard remove it, and warlocks cry. Nice logic.

And what are you even saying, shadow priests and boomkins both had passive reductions in their respective dps forms.

[Count Zero]

I don´t think so.

What does them implementing glyphed UR have to do with them not bringing back a re-worked Everlasting Affliction ?

They do this all the time -- use a currently-inactive glyph to introduce a brand-new glyph, so we already have it learned rather than having to go out and get it once it goes live. They start with current-but-inactive, and only resort to completely new glyphs if they run out of current ones, so that as much as possible they don't have to, first, find a way for scribes to learn the pattern and, second, for availability of that pattern to not screw anyone over.

[Deleted]

Working under the false assumption that you're entitled to compensation for changes to your class you don't like.

Indeed, lol. I love this "compensation" fad, as if any nerfs should be accompanied by compensations. I find it hilarious.

[Rucati]

I'm really confused, I've seen a couple of these "Where's the compensation for nerfs" threads from a couple different classes. And I'm confused.

If a class is overpowered in some way, they get nerfed. If a class gets nerfed why the hell would people then expect buffs to counteract the nerfs? It'd be equivalent to saying "Well, you nerfed my damage by 10%, so you should buff my survivability by 50%" like, what? Why? You got nerfed because you were too strong, why would you then expect buffs so you can yet again be too strong.

Regardless, Locks are absurdly strong right now, it's no shock they got nerfed. The only class in the game that can keep up damage wise is Mages, but Mages bring no utility compared to Locks. I'm just like, confused. Why would you expect buffs after getting nerfed because your class is too strong? Makes no sense.

[Deleted]

Didn't they change the warlock 'wall thingy', so that you can glyph it and have 10% passive reduction? Seems like sort of a compensation, while balancing things as well.

[apluscarp]

The RoF nerf is balanced around having the 4 pc bonus. If you dont have it, you are basically screwed.

[Sifonology]

I'm really confused, I've seen a couple of these "Where's the compensation for nerfs" threads from a couple different classes. And I'm confused.

If a class is overpowered in some way, they get nerfed. If a class gets nerfed why the hell would people then expect buffs to counteract the nerfs? It'd be equivalent to saying "Well, you nerfed my damage by 10%, so you should buff my survivability by 50%" like, what? Why? You got nerfed because you were too strong, why would you then expect buffs so you can yet again be too strong.

Regardless, Locks are absurdly strong right now, it's no shock they got nerfed. The only class in the game that can keep up damage wise is Mages, but Mages bring no utility compared to Locks. I'm just like, confused. Why would you expect buffs after getting nerfed because your class is too strong? Makes no sense.

Do you have any idea what is being talked here? Its not about warlocks are being good and whatever class you play being worse than warlocks. It is about 1 spec which is one of the worst specs in the game for single target, getting nerfed because an ability called Rain of Fire slipped into single target rotation unexpectedly. Right know RoF is %30 of secondary resource regen of Destruction and it is nerfed to prevent usage this ability on single target. This HAS TO be compansated. Also Destruction needs some buffs to keep it up with other specs/classes, it is like nerfing DKs instead of buffing them.

[Xyronic]

Do you have any idea what is being talked here? Its not about warlocks are being good and whatever class you play being worse than warlocks. It is about 1 spec which is one of the worst specs in the game for single target, getting nerfed because an ability called Rain of Fire slipped into single target rotation unexpectedly. Right know RoF is %30 of secondary resource regen of Destruction and it is nerfed to prevent usage this ability on single target. This HAS TO be compansated. Also Destruction needs some buffs to keep it up with other specs/classes, it is like nerfing DKs instead of buffing them.

Or, you know, they could just let the aids that is the Destruction spec die in its own fire, while I laugh at Brusalk and Zumzum.

[Deleted]

Indeed, lol. I love this "compensation" fad, as if any nerfs should be accompanied by compensations. I find it hilarious.

Well it should concidering destro wasn't in a good spot to begin with

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If a class is overpowered in some way, they get nerfed.

They can also nerf non-overpowered specs, which is now the case.

[Count Zero]

People are too caught up with the general idea of compensation ... Destro dps was not the target for the RoF nerf; ember generation through RoF was.

I'm pretty sure they did straight up say they did not intend to nerf Destro dps and that they would re-balance it around not generating embers through RoF on single-target.