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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehrenpanzer View Post
    ..so....that makes it ok? Awesome...you've pissed me off mildly...and since apes kill each other when annoyed, I will now kill you..but since animals do it as well it must be ok right?
    I never said it was ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    Arranged marriage =/= Forced marriage.
    It's the same thing. Parents decide who marries who.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tastyfish View Post
    Ok but this was not an arranged marriage. She was bought recently, not promised 14 years ago.
    How do you know that? And what does "recently" mean?
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    i've said i'd like to have one of those bad dragon dildos shaped like a horse, because the shape is nicer than human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baar View Post
    How are they different? In both cases it's the family deciding not the child.
    Big differences.

    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    It's the same thing. Parents decide who marries who.
    Are we just gonna ignore that in arranged marriage it happens by the own free will of the people who are going to get married?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    Arranged marriage =/= Forced marriage.
    I agree. This situation in this story is an Arranged Marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baar View Post
    How are they different? In both cases it's the family deciding not the child.
    Well
    One is an agreement made way ahead of time. Think like Sansa and Joffery in GOT. That was arranged, very clearly so.
    IN this region people sell their kids for money and food to older guys so they have food or money, now.

    Even tho both require an agreement, or an arrangement if you will, one actually requires more planning, as the child is, less discardable, and relies on good faith of the family to provide a child for the arrangement. The other is like buying a car off the lot.
    "If you want to control people, if you want to feed them a pack of lies and dominate them, keep them ignorant. For me, literacy means freedom." - LaVar Burton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralgarog View Post
    I agree. This situation in this story is an Arranged Marriage.
    Most definitely not.

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    She stood up for herself, and in that culture, that takes no small amount of determination...but reckless killing is not a good idea... It'll probably just make her life even worse.

    It's a horrible tradition, and a rather disgusting culture...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baar View Post
    How are they different? In both cases it's the family deciding not the child.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralgarog View Post
    I agree. This situation in this story is an Arranged Marriage.
    Said I was out of here but...
    http://www.shaktiedinburgh.co.uk/arr...arriageyp.html
    http://muslimmatters.org/2011/12/22/...rced-marriage/
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/forcedmarriage/
    https://www.cheshire.police.uk/advic...marriages.aspx

    The more you fucking know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baar View Post
    How are they different? In both cases it's the family deciding not the child.
    She's right.

    An arranged marriage, like the ones that happen in Africa (including this article) is when the parents agree to marry a child.

    A forced marriage, (Unlike this case) is when a child is married to someone else without consent of the family, or married as a way to pay off a debt.

    Very similar things based on our morals, however on some African cultures, they are night and day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    Most definitely not.
    How is it not? Your opinion says its not? Or?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralgarog View Post
    She's right.

    An arranged marriage, like the ones that happen in Africa (including this article) is when the parents agree to marry a child.

    A forced marriage, (Unlike this case) is when a child is married to someone else without consent of the family, or married as a way to pay off a debt.

    Very similar things based on our morals, however on some African cultures, they are night and day.
    No, arranged marriage both partners consent. If there is no consent from both it is a forced marriage on either one part or both parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralgarog View Post
    I agree. This situation in this story is an Arranged Marriage.
    This would be a forced marriage. The child had no say in the matter. An arranged marriage (like an o-miai) is where two individuals are brought together, typically chosen by family, to decide if they want to marry. The woman could say no. The man could say no. Likewise they could both say yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHast View Post
    Off with their heads!

    God forbid they don't respect tradition as old as the pyramids, kill them all!
    As long as we go back to ALL the traditions back then...cant do halfway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    No, arranged marriage both partners consent. If there is no consent from both it is a forced marriage on either one part or both parts.
    Are you disagreeing because you have reading problems or.... Because that is what i typed and unless i misread, the article does not go into the terms of the marriage.

    I just reread the article and it did not say this is forced marriage. They said She was forced to marry. Based on western culture that could be forced marriage or arranged marriage. But based on the fact that she was at a banquet where men and woman were attending it was more than likely an arranged marriage.
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    I love how everyone condemns these practices as being pedo and disgusting.

    It's normal tradition for them and a 14 year old is seen as a grown or "flowered" woman there.

    Do i agree with it? No, but i don't think i have the right to really comment on their behaviour, as i have never been to nigeria.

    Believe it or not folks, Your opinion isn't always the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralgarog View Post
    Are you disagreeing because you have reading problems or.... Because that is what i typed and unless i misread, the article does not go into the terms of the marriage.
    From the article:
    A 14-year-old girl forced to marry a 35-year-old man in Nigeria prepared a celebratory meal laced with rat poison for her new hubby — killing him and three of his pals.
    The parents might have agreed to marry the child, but the child had no say. She was forced into it. It was a forced marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    Big differences.





    Are we just gonna ignore that in arranged marriage it happens by the own free will of the people who are going to get married?
    Uh....I think the boat that carried your understanding of what an arranged marriage is sailed about 3 hours ago....you werent on it...seriously...stop posting..you just make yourself look like a bigger idiot with each one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehrenpanzer View Post
    Uh....I think the boat that carried your understanding of what an arranged marriage is sailed about 3 hours ago....you werent on it...seriously...stop posting..you just make yourself look like a bigger idiot with each one
    How many times do I have to paste this?

    Arranged marriage should not be confused with the practice of forced marriage such as vani. In an arranged marriage, while the meeting of the spouses is arranged by family members, relatives or friends, the spouses agree of their own free will to marry. By contrast, in a forced marriage, one or both spouses are coerced into the marriage - the union takes place without their freely given consent (under duress, threats, psychological pressure etc).

    If the spouses aren't free to say no or yes, then it is, by definition, a forced marriage and not an arranged marriage.

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    Not at all..in fact arranged marriages have been split into 4 different groups


    -parents or guardians select, the individuals are neither consulted nor have any say before the marriage (forced arranged marriage)
    -parents or guardians select, then the individuals are consulted, who consider and consent, and each individual has the power to refuse; sometimes, the individuals meet - in family setting or privately - before engagement and marriage as in shidduch custom among Orthodox Jews
    -individuals select, then parents or guardians are consulted, who consider and consent, and parents have the power to refuse
    -individuals select, the parents or guardians are neither consulted nor have any say before the marriage (autonomous marriage)

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