Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
Tier gear is the best gear, since the set bonus' is always very high boost to your dps/hps/survivability. Using full lfr gear with set bonus' is better than using full heroic off-piece gear because the tier bonus is worth much more than the actual stats(ilvl). Do you honestly not see a problem with this?
Last edited by mmoc840776f426; 2014-08-25 at 08:03 PM.
Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
LFR Tried to deliver a raid experience to the masses, and succeeded somewhat in that regard. It was a mistake in my opinion, normal mode raids were never that difficult, and where the "softcore" aspect of this game. Now its "softer core". It just adds a layer of false achievement to those people who can only play 1-2 Hours a night, while providing the rest of the masses with a cheap source of easy stepping stone gear. So long as it doesn't impact the rest of the game, don't see how it really matters. Its fine as long as it never effects the games balance.
Well good for you, i can confirm that you are indeed, not blind. That still doesn't change the fact that you can get better gear from lfr than you can from heroic raiding, if you are not first in line to get tier tokens. You do realize that only 4(?) drop from every boss right? if you somewhat in the middle of the loot distribution that would mean you need 3 weeks in order to START seeing some tier gear coming your way. If you are last man it could very well be several months before you see any heroic tier gear. So all these people now need to collect tier gear from easier settings. Aka. "forcing" them into doing lfr, which for some reason drops tier gear almost as strong as the hardest content in the game.
Blizzard knows that lfr in its current for is pest for the game, which is why they are doubling drop-rates so people wont spends months gearing up through lfr. Well guess what, with doubling the drop rate, tier gear and op trinket have absolutely no place in lfr, since you would be able to get a full set gear in an hour or so, only being slightly lucky.
Completely agree, and is the one reason I won't be staying long in WoD. And all my friends and some of my acquaintances I have made in this game have said they will probably do the same. Level up, most likely do the MC LFR for mount and the BG, and then quit.
For the past year and a half I have been guildless, and still been able to get full Flex and Normal in pugs (trying to get more HC kills beside the first 4), and let me tell you, its' damn taxing and stressful on my life. So I made up my mind.... NOPE!, never again with pugging through Oqueue and Openraid, and especially, I WON'T DO GUILDS EVER AGAIN. It's not worth it any longer. It's pitiful and outright disgusting there's so much emphasis on guilds and organised group content, it was that reason the friends that got me into this game quit during first month of Cata.
On the new group finder tool, I think will be a major flop. Feel seriously bad for those in LFR trying to into Flex pugs in the expac, will be even worse than it is now. A good example is when most times I go into LFR even on alt no more than LFR gear equipped, I get whispers with begs from people to take them into Flex (most likely inspected my achivs). I give them the advice of using Openraid or even Oqueue. The answers I get can mostly resemble something similar to these 3 ,
1. Already tried that, no luck/takes too long
2. Screw that/Screw those elitist dungholes
3. No, plz YOU take me
Since the group finder is basically ingame version of Openraid and Qoeue, and as you said, nothing will change and it will still be the same old.... Well maybe not, this time it will be more in the face for everyone, especially all that rejection for LFR and casual players. Won't be hard to imagine this will turn off casual players from raids and WoW itself in the end.
And no, I won't ask them to join guilds. Them and me, I imagine, are on the same page on that one.
Last edited by KrakinTauren; 2014-08-25 at 08:21 PM.
Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
Is this really the case? Not saying you are wrong but have people really done experiments on this? If so, I would like to have a look at their report on this. I always seen tier to give a percentage boost for one or more spells etc. While the higher item level gear gives a general stat boost across the board.
So you are saying that a LFR tier set that gives x% boost to just one or two skills, is better than a general stat boost from the higher item level gear?
First time I heard of this.
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I also find it kinda funny that all of your friends has set a date for when they are quitting, and its going to be just after new content arrives! lol
No content for a year? "np"
No tier-set in faceroll mode? "OMG I QUIT! fkin bluzzard caternining to elist!!"
The bigger problem is the LFR gear looks exactly like the Heroic gear, just recolored. Now LFR gear looks like what it should be giving out.
LFR shared the exact same loot table as every other difficulty, which is where the you want the best loot for doing the easily content. Your get a weaker / dumb down version of the Heroic Loot. But it is still the same loot.
I don't always hunt things, But when I do, It's because they're things & I'm a Bear.
In mop, yes. Not in wod
I might have said that a bit wrong, what i meant was that having 4t bonus(even from lfr) is ALWAYS better than having off-pieces for those 4 slots. Tier bonus often make a 20% dps increase. Getting 4 items that has 20-30 higher on armor pieces wont give that much.
Last edited by mmoc840776f426; 2014-08-25 at 08:57 PM.
I don't always hunt things, But when I do, It's because they're things & I'm a Bear.
Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
Well it technically is, their is no way to sugar coat it. LFR gives shit gear because it is a shit feature & shouldn't give Raid Quality gear. It never should of from the first place, Flex has proven to be a better feature & reason why it's being extended into Normal & Heroic.
A strong reason with the many others that WoW has had this fall besides ages & casualization. Is the fact that is no longer any longtivity, no one works towards goals anymore. Players want the best loot in quickest amount of time than quit. Phase out LFR, it isn't Raiding & only a tourist mode like GC said at Blizzcon.
Leave Normal, Heroic & Mythic as the go to for Raiding & keep LFR for those who want to experience raid content & the story inside the raids without having to commit to a Guild or Raid schedule. But giving some kind of reward is good, just it shouldn't be the exact same reward as those who commit to a guild or raid schedule that raid Normal, Heroic or Mythic.
No one wanted to do Flex or Normal, because people had these stupid iLevel requirements, mostly people wanting to be carried by good geared players.
Last edited by Arbs; 2014-08-25 at 09:01 PM.
I don't always hunt things, But when I do, It's because they're things & I'm a Bear.
Problem is that casual players do want to play with other players, but there is no group content which can be done in a casual and low key way, and with a decent progression path. That means content with no requirements on organisation/coordination/dps/performance/achivs, no scheduling, and can be done on the go whenever, wherever.
Right now in most MMO there's no such thing, There's just this push for to be best and to meet other peoples arbitrary demands (that includes scheduling) . And right now, many players, myself included, are sick and tired of it.
I can get more fun out of doing mutliplayer in BF or CoD than in MMO's, just for the reasons I stated.
Last edited by KrakinTauren; 2014-08-25 at 09:04 PM.
Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
I wish they would just remove LFR all together and implement difficult 5mans again. LFR is full of tards doing less than 40k hps, 80k dps and half the time tanks don't know what the hell a gem is cause they clearly don't use them. It's not helping these players at all the fights are nothing like the normal versions it isn't improving their skills by any means what so ever. It's a failed experiment and the "I don't have time to raid normal" excuse is such bullshit and over blown you spend 30min - 1hour just waiting in the damn LFR que and if you get a bad group (in my experiences is more time than not) you may spend up to two hours just trying to down 1 wing. Especially with the new tools for making groups coming in WoD the no time for a raid schedule excuse is irrelevant.