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  1. 2016-10-01, 09:51 AM #1
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    Ursoc Mythic Cheese - Please fix this Blizz

    Have you guys seen this? Apparently guilds who can't meet the dps requirements of the fight just drop a healer and exploit the charges at the end.

    Is this cheating? Or clever use of game mechanics?

    https://clips.twitch.tv/ellyger/DifficultOctopusFunRun

    https://clips.twitch.tv/ellyger/PoisedSwallowWinWaker

    https://clips.twitch.tv/ellyger/Wand...ooItsBoshyTime

    https://clips.twitch.tv/ellyger/Brea...urlewDendiFace

    https://clips.twitch.tv/ellyger/Bloo...iPeteZarollTie

    https://clips.twitch.tv/ellyger/ImpossibleSkunkKeepo
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    Why would this be cheating?
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  3. 2016-10-01, 10:34 AM #3
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    Because you can avoid having ursoc charge by running into the walls of the room in some places. You avoid A LOT of damage that way making it possible to drop a healer. The dropping a healer part is not the cheating part rather than a result of abusing a bug.
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  4. 2016-10-01, 10:38 AM #4
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    why is this guy a mage but had a giant guldan picture in the bottom left?
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    What are they doing? Why isn't he charging?

    Edit: Oh someone explained it already
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  6. 2016-10-01, 10:41 AM #6
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    Yea its a little exploity.

    We had the bug happen a few times before we killed him, never really discussed trying to replicate the bug because it is definitely bannable.

    Seems like this guild is using it intentionally however, which is a big no-no.

    Would expect this to get fixed relatively soon after it becomes common knowledge.
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  7. 2016-10-01, 10:42 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    why is this guy a mage but had a giant guldan picture in the bottom left?
    *sighs* isn't it rather obvious, its taken from a stream, or are you just, wow?
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  8. 2016-10-01, 10:45 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by pizakaka View Post
    Because you can avoid having ursoc charge by running into the walls of the room in some places. You avoid A LOT of damage that way making it possible to drop a healer. The dropping a healer part is not the cheating part rather than a result of abusing a bug.
    Looks like they are using immunities to drop the charge? They guy must run away since he seemd to still take the damage while raidwide damage was avoided.

    To me it doesnt look like exploiting but just using the actual utility of some classes. Same shit as immuning adds on Mannoroth
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  9. 2016-10-01, 11:41 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcanines View Post
    *sighs* isn't it rather obvious, its taken from a stream, or are you just, wow?
    uhhhh.... yeah....? but im wondering why hes a mage, but has warlock visuals... did you read what i said? it was pretty obvious, its a chat cover, but why is a mage usin a warlock for his chat cover?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    uhhhh.... yeah....? but im wondering why hes a mage, but has warlock visuals... did you read what i said? it was pretty obvious, its a chat cover, but why is a mage usin a warlock for his chat cover?
    He probably likes Gul'dan.
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    Did he really create a profile on MMOChamp just to whine about this?
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    Didnt watch the video but like how do you not meet the dps on mythic ursoc lmao just kill the boss lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musaxinho View Post
    He probably likes Gul'dan.
    idk its a weird picture, its like a fan made guldan... and hes a mage... it just seems weird... like why wouldent he have one of his character?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    idk its a weird picture, its like a fan made guldan... and hes a mage... it just seems weird... like why wouldent he have one of his character?
    It's much weirder how you seem so bothered by this imo.
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    Didnt watch the video but like how do you not meet the dps on mythic ursoc lmao just kill the boss lol
    Not sure if troll or sleep deprived from long raids
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    neither, IQ -
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    idk its a weird picture, its like a fan made guldan... and hes a mage... it just seems weird... like why wouldent he have one of his character?
    It's just a picture. I think you're overthinking this quite a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilidan View Post
    It's much weirder how you seem so bothered by this imo.
    im just wondering, its like if i was a warlock then had a sudden picture of a tree streached out covering my chat log

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    It's just a picture. I think you're overthinking this quite a bit.
    idk, if your gunna stream have some theme to your stuff, idk its just me but its so random and weird
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesmarcus View Post
    Not sure if troll or sleep deprived from long raids
    We killed it in 4 pulls, didnt even know it had an enrage. Consequence struggle with it or something?
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    I'm glad you brought up IQ, the last standardised IQ test I took I scored a 127, the threshold for 'Genius' is 140, and the threshold for 'Gifted Genius' is 165+, based on the fact the global average IQ is 84, and the fact you're likely Americanwhere the national IQ is BELOW the global average and falling consistently which has led to calls for global intervention in your abysmal education system, I feel you have VERY LITTLE room to talk about IQ levels, but thanks for trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GranitXhaka29 View Post
    We killed it in 4 pulls, didnt even know it had an enrage. Consequence struggle with it or something?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u1UxIqGpFY

    I will unfortunately have to comment away from that video and state that for guilds outside of the top 100, they'll struggle with the enrage on the first few weeks because that's the point of Ursoc. It's meant to be a wall. We've overcome it by farming Mythic+ so much that our ilvl has negated it, but for your average player (aka 99.9999%) of players who raid the hours agreed with their guild in sub top 100 guilds, killing Ursoc will be an achievement. This however reminds me of the pool party in Butcher, and we knew how hesitant they were to fix that.
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