Sin opener with MP/Ap build

[Ezekill]

Does it remain the same as it was with EP? Having iaaues getting my energy low enough qithout capping CP to justify popping vendetta.

[Deleted]

Does it remain the same as it was with EP? Having iaaues getting my energy low enough qithout capping CP to justify popping vendetta.

You really need to spam harder then

[Chears]

You should be going back to using 4/5 point envenoms with vigor now.

[Ezekill]

So is it atill garrote>mutilate>rupture>kings>mutilate>vendetta>vanish>rupture?

[shaunika123]

garotte envenom mutilate rupture muti vendetta kings vanish rupture

or the old one with garrote rup etc...

im still not sure which one is better tbh

[Deleted]

Personnally i'm doing garrote->mut(x2 fi i'm at 3 CP)->envenom->kings->mut->vendetta->(mut if i'm 3 CP) vanish->rupture

[Chears]

garotte envenom mutilate rupture muti kings vendetta vanish rupture

vendetta before kingsbane

[shaunika123]

vendetta before kingsbane

yeah right, sry gonna edit

[Nikkaszal]

Why 1CP Envenom after Garotte instead of Mut-Rup?

[Unseenkilla]

Haven't tested it yet, but can you Nightstalker Kingsbane? Like would the DoT benefit from it? Seeing as how it's doing 1.4m damage max hit or so, I feel like it may be worth it to do that instead of Vanish Rupture.

[metalslave]

With rupture damage normalized still worth to pandemic it?

[iky43210]

why does it matter if u vendetta or kingbane first?

[Aureli]

Im starting with stacked FoK (lege back), garotte, muti, vanish, rupture

[Deleted]

Personnally i'm doing garrote->mut(x2 fi i'm at 3 CP)->envenom->kings->mut->vendetta->(mut if i'm 3 CP) vanish->rupture

You still need to pandemic the vanished rupture so you have a 30sec buffed rup instead of a 24sec one

[Deleted]

For an open with 30% crit/120% mastery with MP/Vigor/etc setup I'm doing the following.

Garrote> Envenom > Mutilate > Rupture > Mutilate till 5 CP(vendetta when required) > Vanish/Rupture > KB >>>>>>> Mut/Evenom@3CP+/Maintain Garrote/Rupture

Enjoy solid parses and a few godly ones when you fish a poison proc on pull.

[Baregrylls]

Why 1CP Envenom after Garotte instead of Mut-Rup?

I've been wrong before but I always do it so that I can start stacking AP faster because of the increased chance to apply poisons. Dont know if the buff to AP having a 30% vs 20% chance makes a difference

[enragedgorilla]

For an open with 30% crit/120% mastery with MP/Vigor/etc setup I'm doing the following.

Garrote> Envenom > Mutilate > Rupture > Mutilate till 5 CP(vendetta when required) > Vanish/Rupture > KB >>>>>>> Mut/Evenom@3CP+/Maintain Garrote/Rupture

Enjoy solid parses and a few godly ones when you fish a poison proc on pull.

Getting a 1.5 M opener does make me grin like an idiot...been awhile since that has happened in game.

[Elyzibeth]

Does SOT buff your Kingsbane hit? If so, it is enough to make sure you want to have SOT up in your opener when you kings?

[Leetbeartank]

Can anyone explain why you do a 1 CP Envenom? Also... I'm at work so I can't test - does Night stalker affect Kingsbane? If it does, why don't you use your vanish on that?

[Elyzibeth]

the problem is that nighstalker affects the initial hit from kingsbane, but not the dot.

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The problem is that nighstalker affects the initial hit from kingsbane, but not the dot.

They're doing the first envenom to get a short buff up to help apply the poisons even faster at the start.