Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Paranoid Android]

Donald J. Trump. The man so juvenile that he has actual Twitter feuds/beef with celebrities....



"President of the United States of America" gets less and less respect as a title as the days go by.

This is so effin nuts as President he attacks private citizens. I know Trumpkins, Hollywood liberal, he flights back, blah, blah. I'm sure you will be fine when the next President does it.

Oh I love how he calls African American 'blacks'. So effin demeaning.

[zorkuus]

He's still going on about it!

Does this count as quadruple downing or is he past that already?

[Breccia]

He's still going on about it!

"grazed"

"Grazed" is nowhere near what he said. Moving the goalposts is invalid regardless, but it's still flat-out lying in this case.

He's still either admitting incompetence, or lying. When the President of the United States, sitting in front of a big FEMA sign, gives out information, you would normally assume it was accurate, up-to-date information that's relevant to the problem. It sounds more and more like he just didn't bother checking more recent and therefore more useful predictions, which is understandable, until you tell the country there's a natural disaster in the wrong fucking state.

I think I know what this is. The weight of so many objective failures at every turn has gotten him so aggravated, that he just refuses to take another one -- even one as "small" as "I didn't check the hurricane before talking about the hurricane". He needs something, anything, in his win column other than tumbleweeds and having sex with a porn star while his third illegal immigrant wife was pregnant. This is the only battle he had on his grease and ketchup stained plate that he thought he could win.

He's wrong. And it's going to give him a heart attack...

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Does this count as quadruple downing or is he past that already?

"Quadruple bypass"

[Flarelaine]

One of the most liberating things a man can say is "I done fucked up".

[Mormolyce]

Just in case, that "sea-lioning" you mention is just a new and hip way to call others trolls.

"Hip new way"? It's from 2014 lol.

And no, sea-lioning is not trolling, it's a distinct form of disingenuous argument. Though they are sometimes confused since their aims are similar.

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what did I ever do to anyone

You're a good boy who dindo nuffin'.

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One of the most liberating things a man can say is "I done fucked up".

If you're a narcissist it's anathema.

Ironically, he's terrified of admitting he's wrong in case it makes him look weak, but his constant refusal to admit obvious mistakes is telegraphing weakness.

[rda]

I am honestly amazed at the level of stupidity in this Alabama BS.

Trump tweeted that the hurricane will hit this, that and Alabama.

At first the outrage in this thread was around the lines of "Does he know where Alabama is? It's stupid!"

A map was linked, Alabama is close to the hurricane.

The outrage changed to "But the hurricane was not going there! *That's* stupid!"

A map with predictions for the hurricane path was linked, showing that the predictions were touching Alabama.

The outrage changed to "But there was newer / better data! *Not using newer / better data* was stupid!"

This is still where the media is, nothing material got added. The supposed message is still that Trump is horrible because he didn't use newer / better data.

YES, it would have been better if Trump used newer and better data. But stop for a second and acknowledge that all this "use" involved was a mere mention of Alabama at the end of the list of states that could be affected. The only ones who are being stupid here are those who rage over this utter nothing and are blowing it up to the heights of the Empire State building.

You know why you are still talking about this? Because Trump is tweeting about it. And you know why he is tweeting about it? Because he LIKES to irritate his deranged critics and because the REASON for the critique here is completely microscopic. He knows this fight is completely safe to him, if it was not for the hurricane, the media would have come with some other story, so better to keep them busy with nonsense which makes them look petty and trippy. Wake up already.

[solinari6]

The problem of Trump using outdated info is this:
It's emblematic of him NOT paying attention in briefings, or not GOING to briefings altogether.
He doesn't pay attention to details AT ALL. No one should be happy with a president who is totally fine with making proclamations or decisions based on stale data.

[rda]

The problem of Trump using outdated info is this:
It's emblematic of him NOT paying attention in briefings, or not GOING to briefings altogether.
He doesn't pay attention to details AT ALL. No one should be happy with a president who is totally fine with making proclamations or decisions based on stale data.

Be unhappy. That's fine. But the levels of unhappiness should be sane. What we have is a multi-day hysteria on completely nothing.

[solinari6]

Be unhappy. That's fine. But the levels of unhappiness should be sane. What we have is a multi-day hysteria on completely nothing.

Look, we just want our president to be a fucking man for once. Own up to his mistakes. Do you know how easy it would be for him to say "I was working on out-dated information, sorry about that." It's what any SANE person would do. But HE drags it on and on, thinking he's owning the libs and fake media, when all he is doing is showing the world what a man-baby he is. It's depressing as all hell.

[Belize]

One of the most liberating things a man can say is "I done fucked up".

That'll never happen.

Trump could be on his deathbed and would be arguing it's not his diet that gave him horrible cholesterol.

[Kujako]

Be unhappy. That's fine. But the levels of unhappiness should be sane. What we have is a multi-day hysteria on completely nothing.

And yet, Trump keeps leaning into it and making it worse. But of course it's everyone else's fault, right?

[noidentity]

#SHARPIEGATE TRENDS AS PEOPLE MOCK TRUMP FOR SHOWING HURRICANE DORIAN PATH MAP ALTERED WITH PEN

President Donald Trump has been widely mocked after he displayed a map showing Hurricane Dorian's projected path in the Oval Office which appeared to have been altered with a marker pen to falsely show it was expected to hit Alabama.

Thousands of people have tweeted using the #Sharpiegate hashtag (alluding to the famous marker pen brand) following the bizarre moment in the White House in which Trump attempted to pass off a doctored National Hurricane Center map showing Dorian's projection as genuine in order to back up his previous claims that Alabama could be affected by the powerful storm.

The map, dated from August 29, has what appears to be a black marker pen line added on to show Dorian could hit south-east Alabama by Tuesday morning (September 3).

When a reporter in the Oval office asked whether a Sharpie was used to add the black loop into the corner of Alabama, Trump replied, "I don't know, I don't know." The original NHC map, without the black line, is still available to view online.

Social media users ridiculed Trump over #Sharpiegate, with many saying it is another example where the president has openly made false claims, exaggerated or attempted to mislead the public.

"This is probably the stupidest story since his crowd size on inauguration day....And I am here for every minute of it because this thin skinned petty man can't let it go and keeps making a bigger and bigger fool of himself," wrote Travis Bone, executive producer of The Stephanie Miller Show.

"#sharpiegate is so petty and moronic, but it underlines a deeply disturbing (and frankly, terrifying) propensity for the commander in chief of the US to lie, then cover it without regard to the consequences of accountability. Because no one holds him accountable. This is madness," said user @MuttersMommy.

Ah, the truth finally comes out. #sharpiegate pic.twitter.com/gqh93ZfDUL

— Jason Almenas (@striderno9) September 5, 2019
Somebody take away this man's Sharpie pic.twitter.com/O1Rb6I1GRt

— The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow) September 4, 2019
If he’s willing to lie about a hurricane, what else is he lying about? #sharpiegate pic.twitter.com/YaJceFpw1M

— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) September 4, 2019
WH Press Secretary just released a newly discovered photo of Trump Inauguration. #sharpiegate #sharpie pic.twitter.com/iPmohGJ2QP

— Mark Novata (@mark_novata) September 4, 2019
Trump's planned addition to Mount Rushmore revealed #maddow #SharpieGate pic.twitter.com/EUA3l5PmLU

— Bill Wong (@ten24get) September 5, 2019
Border wall. #TrumpSharpie #Sharpiegate #PresidentialSharpies pic.twitter.com/xEE0hO7uyS

— DBraden (@MecCoffee) September 4, 2019
OMG! The White House released a new photo of President Trump golfing. #sharpiegate #sharpie pic.twitter.com/BZz1lUUUqL

— Mark Novata (@mark_novata) September 4, 2019
Just IN: Trump releases photo that SHOWS his MASSIVE hands. Dems APOLOGIZE for being WRONG #sharpiegate #Sharpie #trumptruth pic.twitter.com/9DatL0H3b7

— Kari (@downstimes) September 4, 2019
Trump releases photo showing how windmills cause cancer. #sharpiegate pic.twitter.com/7rN8YHO488

— BHall (@bhall001) September 5, 2019
As noted by weather analyst Dennis Mersereau, it is a federal crime to knowingly issue a "counterfeit weather forecast" or alter an official government weather forecast.

Despite the National Weather Service confirming that "Alabama will NOT see any impacts" from Dorian shortly after the president's original false claim, Trump once again attempted to prove his statement was correct by tweeting another map with several lines predicting Dorian's path, some of which cross into Alabama.

"This was the originally projected path of the Hurricane in its early stages," Trump tweeted. "As you can see, almost all models predicted it to go through Florida also hitting Georgia and Alabama. I accept the Fake News apologies!"

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Even Fox News Rejects Trump's Altered Dorian Map

As noted by The Guardian, the map is dated 28 August at 08.06 EDT, three days before Trump sent his tweet claiming that as well as Florida, "South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama, will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated." By this time, forecasts said that Alabama would not be in any danger from the hurricane.

The map also has the disclaimer: "NHC advisories and county emergency statements supersede this product. This graphic should complement, not replace, NHC discussions."

18 U.S. Code § 2074.False weather reports

Whoever knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit weather forecast or warning of weather conditions falsely representing such forecast or warning to have been issued or published by the Weather Bureau, United States Signal Service, or other branch of the Government service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(G), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

This is why it matters, Trump broke federal law to desperately prove he was right by altering a forecast map with a Sharpie.

Too bad nothing is going to be done about it, as usual. Just throw this into the pile with the thousands of other lies from this moron.

[rda]

Look, we just want our president to be a fucking man for once. Own up to his mistakes. Do you know how easy it would be for him to say "I was working on out-dated information, sorry about that." It's what any SANE person would do. But HE drags it on and on, thinking he's owning the libs and fake media, when all he is doing is showing the world what a man-baby he is. It's depressing as all hell.

And yet, Trump keeps leaning into it and making it worse. But of course it's everyone else's fault, right?

I hear you. Believe me, I do. Hell, I come from a country which is corrupt like no tomorrow, you cannot believe how unhappy I am with my government. You think you have it rough with Trump? Try having Putin and completely malleable laws.

But the thing is, what you are doing is not helping. The media going crazy and you going crazy with them is not doing anything for you. To the contrary, you end up worse. You spend precious time and energy on attacks you don't even win in the end. And you alienate some neutrals who thinks that OK, Trump is an idiot, but they don't want to get crazy like those who attack him over his every word either, they want something productive to happen instead.

Stop talking about Trump and let the media feel that if they keep going crazy over nonsense you'll just start getting news somewhere else. Then make some constructive agenda and base the election campaign of your democratic candidate on that constructive agenda. Right now it seems that the campaign is going to be just "Trump is racist, I am not, so vote me" and the media are dead set to be talking about Trump's supposed racism, too, they have no other topics for you. This is absolutely going to lose you another 4 years.

[Kujako]

I hear you. Believe me, I do. Hell, I come from a country which is corrupt from the top down, you cannot believe how unhappy am I with my government. You think you have it rough with Trump? Try having Putin and completely malleable laws.

But the thing is, what you are doing is not helping. The media going crazy and you going crazy with them is not doing anything for you. To the contrary, you end up worse. You spend precious time and energy on attacks you don't even win in the end. And you alienate some neutrals who thinks that OK, Trump is an idiot, but they don't want to get crazy like that either, they want something productive to happen instead.

Stop talking about Trump and let the media feel that if they keep going crazy over nonsense you'll just start getting news somewhere else. Then make some constructive agenda and base the election campaign of your democratic candidate on that constructive agenda. Right now it seems that the campaign is going to be just "Trump is racist, I am not, so vote me" and the media are dead set to be talking about Trump's supposed racism, too, they have no other topics for you. This is absolutely going to lose you another 4 years.

So yes, you feel it's not the fault of a sitting President committing crimes, it's the fault of people who report on it or care. So long as we're clear, carry on.

[rda]

So yes, you feel it's not the fault of a sitting President committing crimes, it's the fault of people who report on it or care. So long as we're clear, carry on.

Feel free doing what Trump wants you to do. It's your time.

[solinari6]

I hear you. Believe me, I do. Hell, I come from a country which is corrupt like no tomorrow, you cannot believe how unhappy I am with my government. You think you have it rough with Trump? Try having Putin and completely malleable laws.

But the thing is, what you are doing is not helping. The media going crazy and you going crazy with them is not doing anything for you. To the contrary, you end up worse. You spend precious time and energy on attacks you don't even win in the end. And you alienate some neutrals who thinks that OK, Trump is an idiot, but they don't want to get crazy like those who attack him over his every word either, they want something productive to happen instead.

I think you are just jealous of our complaining, because if you complain about Putin, you will end up dead.

[rda]

I think you are just jealous of our complaining, because if you complain about Putin, you will end up dead.

Not jealous of complaining in particular, but yes.

[rda]

Some of the sharpiegate memes are pretty hilarious. From stick figures at the inauguration, to adding a bubble so he’s taller than Obama, to his face being drawn next to Lincoln on Mt. Rushmore. And he just can’t let it go. Kinda like rda.

Oh, I can let it go alright. This is my last day on this forum. If you see me here tomorrow or after that, I owe you $50, wire details in PM. And no, the problem isn't people calling me a troll or whatever, I don't care about that all that much. It's just boring. Same shit every day. A story gets posted, it is BS, 7 days a week, 365 a year. Boring.

[solinari6]

Oh, I can let it go alright. This is my last day on this forum. If you see me here tomorrow or after that, I owe you $50, wire details in PM.

you finally earned enough turnips to move on to greener pastures?

[Belize]

you finally earned enough turnips to move on to greener pastures?

They transferred him to the Tumblr unit.


Yes, it's a demotion.