Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Dontrike]

2) They kind of actually have a point. Not saying that it is in any way acceptable for the DoE to demand compliance on this subject, but major universities are absolute cowards when it comes to teaching the effects of religion. It is easy to bash on Christianity all day long, and nobody cares, but touch Judaism, Islam, or Hinduism and there are going to be protesters beating down your doors.

You're right, we should treat all religion like we do Christianity, 'cause they are all absolute nonsense.

[Nellise]

Did you see the story where they want to pull funding from Duke and North Carolina University saying they are portraying Islam in too much a positive light.

Trump administration says joint UNC, Duke program portrays Islam too positively

That article really buries the lede. The funding is being given to the program to promote students learning a foreign language. The first item in the letter sent to UNC/Duke, but only shows up all the way at the bottom of the article notes: "The consortium enrolls 960 students in Middle East language courses out of 6,791 students in the overall Middle East studies program". The government grant money isn't being used for what it's supposed to be. I'd suggest actually reading the government letter and not an article that cherry picks a single item from it and misrepresents the issue.

[Felya]

You're right, we should treat all religion like we do Christianity, 'cause they are all absolute nonsense.

It’s also not actually true. American schools are obviously American fused. As a result, the vast majority of education is western focused. That means Christianity is simply more prevalent as a cause or an important figure to history. The “don’t touch Islam”, is actually one of the outcries of terrorist. Islam wasn’t relevant historically to be an emphasis for a long period of a curriculum, unless it’s the focus or theology. Islam’s coverage in education is limited largely to modern history... at least in relation to US. It’s not ‘don’t touch’, it’s that in context... there is nothing to touch. We don’t teach middle eastern history, unless focused. Jews fall into a different box, because WW2 and thus the holocaust, is a major focus of western curriculum. You’ll learn about it in Jr HS, elementary, HS and even kindergarten, when you make red flowers in GB for remembrance day or in US for DDay. It makes Jews inherently the victim of western education. Simply because... again, we don’t teach middle eastern history nor historical persecution. All of the ire against Israel specifically, is limited to modern history. Chances are, if you exclude WW2, the only thing you would learn about Jews, would be in English class... if you focus on Shakespeare and learn about Shylock.

In short, if Islam and Judaism was treated the same as Christianity in schools. It’s wouldn't be some changing bias in the way these religions are presented. It would simply mean public education would need to last well into your 20s, to cover the added, not changed, curriculum.

Edit: You simply can’t avoid, and it is absolutely harmful to even try, religion in history. The foundation of America, from those who boarded ships coming here. To what the Pilgrims were to the constitution’s justification, like the Jefferson’s wall letter to the Baptist, religion is extremely important for context of history... just don’t turn it theological. That’s when...

[Wyrt]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...es-full-of-sht

I'm sure glad we're letting Trump steal billions of dollars to build a "wall" that doesn't work.

[Dontrike]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...es-full-of-sht

I'm sure glad we're letting Trump steal billions of dollars to build a "wall" that doesn't work.

We knew the wall didn't/won't/doesn't work, but what's more telling is that of course Trump is lying about having professional climbers test it when no one has heard of any climber testing the wall in the least.

Plus Trump said that you can get over the wall, if you were an Olympic class pole vaulter, so he's already admitted to being able to get over it on at least one occasion.

[Breccia]

Trump continues to push the narrative that the Fake News media just made all this up.

Just a reminder: Trump could sue for slander or libel if that was true.

Further reminder: Trump lies all the time about everything.

Final reminder: the Fake News didn't create the ICIG or the letters he wrote to Congress.

[Orbitus]

Trump continues to push the narrative that the Fake News media just made all this up.

Just a reminder: Trump could sue for slander or libel if that was true.

Further reminder: Trump lies all the time about everything.

Final reminder: the Fake News didn't create the ICIG or the letters he wrote to Congress.

Especially since the person is a Trump appointee if I am not mistaken.

[kreationkin]

There are four lights.

[Kujako]

My grandfather used to tell me: "If you tell somebody the sky is red, every single day, eventually they will begin to believe it even though they still clearly see blue when they look up".

Trump's presidency is literally my grandfather's lesson come to life for me to watch in real time..

Except that every other day he says that the claims of the sky's color being red are fake news and that it's really green.

[Ghostpanther]

Some good news for Trump....https://www.newsweek.com/trump-appro...-obama-1460076

President Donald Trump's job approval rating this week averaged across major polls surpassed that of his predecessor President Barack Obama at the same time eight years ago, giving some actual good news to Trump who is known to cite only conservative-leaning polls to bolster his image.

Trump's approval rating on Wednesday was 44.3 percent, according to a Real Clear Politics average of more than a half-dozen major polls. That is higher than Obama's average approval rating of 43.9 percent on September 18, 2011, by the same measure

As of today, it is a little higher at 44.7% average...https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6179.html

[DarkTZeratul]

Some good news for Trump....https://www.newsweek.com/trump-appro...-obama-1460076

President Donald Trump's job approval rating this week averaged across major polls surpassed that of his predecessor President Barack Obama at the same time eight years ago, giving some actual good news to Trump who is known to cite only conservative-leaning polls to bolster his image.

Trump's approval rating on Wednesday was 44.3 percent, according to a Real Clear Politics average of more than a half-dozen major polls. That is higher than Obama's average approval rating of 43.9 percent on September 18, 2011, by the same measure

As of today, it is a little higher at 44.7% average...https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6179.html

So people are happier about job numbers during a strong economy than they were during a recession?

Color me shocked.

[Ghostpanther]

So people are happier about job numbers during a strong economy than they were during a recession?

Color me shocked.

Lol! Yep and his ratings will plummet if there is another recession before Nov. 2020 and his odds of being reelected will drop significantly. But it is still positive news for him. It also explains why some of his haters, are wanting another recession before the election.

And on this same topic, in my state of Ohio....https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...att-industries

President Trump welcomed Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison in Wapakoneta, Ohio at Pratt Industries, along with factory owner Australian billionaire Anthony Pratt, as he touted an "economic revival" of the manufacturing industry with the promise of more foreign investment and a surge in new jobs.

"We proudly declare Pratt Industries and the great, great state of Ohio open for business...Pratt has pledged, as I said, to invest many billions in the United States

Pratt is creating 5,000 new jobs, helped in part by Trump's tax cuts which included lowering the corporate tax rate to 21 percent from 35 percent.

[Masark]

Prattling about Pratt

You didn't get enough of a lesson in bullshit promises from Foxconn did you? I guess Wisconsin is too far past the end of your nose for you to see.

[Breccia]

Some good news for Trump

Only if, like Trump, you believe you're doing well if someone is doing worse. Trump's approval dropped underwater almost immediately and has lived there ever since.

Actually let's go one step further:



You're comparing a relative high point for Trump, for what might be Obama's lowest numbers ever. Obama's numbers climbed rapidly from this point for the next year. Trump hasn't seen the good side of 50% since July of 20never.

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So let's see what Axios has for us this evening.

Conservative leaders are circulating data to White House staff that claims adults who vape will turn on President Trump if he follows through with his planned ban on flavored e-cigarettes, Axios has learned.

HAHAHAHAHA oh, right, right, all that stuff Trump did and the vape ban will cost him the election. A vape ban. Oh, please. Let me --

The data (shown below) reveals that the number of adult vapers in key battleground states greatly outweighs the margins by which Trump won those states in 2016

Holy shit, they're serious!



Okay, to be fair, Axios talks about the study with skepticism. But let's pretend, for the moment, that vapers were just as likely to vote for Trump as the rest of the country in 2016, and that half of those people shift their votes. That's Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan immediately. And that's just napkin math. I'll refer you to this other study, also from Axios, which suggests he's already lost every state on this list anyhow.

It won't be vaping that kills him, but it's certainly not going to help him much.

[cubby]

There are four lights.

Lol, that's just about how it feels nowadays. The sheer volume of total bullshit and illegality the Cheeto Administration has gotten away with is staggering. There must be 50 events that Trump has done, each of which would have ended any other presidency.

I mean, for fucks sake, he just committed literal Treason re Ukraine, and his insane rabid fan base is just clucking along like it was any other normal day.

[Paranoid Android]

.@MarthaRaddatz: "Should a president be asking foreign leaders to investigate political opponents?"

Former Trump Defense Sec. Gen. James Mattis: "This is is not something I have any background on ... I really prefer to talk about things I know more about" https://t.co/jMFPcBlHEI https://t.co/But44gzLA9

https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/stat...785806336?s=19

I don't know why some of you give this person a pass. He is an enabler and spineless. Not speaking out of a current President or any President, who would be willing to break and abuse the law for political gain.

[SirBeef]

Doesn't surprise me. This is about as far into Obama's first term where the ACA started making the news, with all those death panels and government-run healthcare and socialism and all the other bullshit the Tea Party brought with them.

Gotta love it when they talk up a 44.7% approval rating.

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You're right, we should treat all religion like we do Christianity, 'cause they are all absolute nonsense.

We should treat them all like traditional mythology, because that's all they really are.

[Breccia]

The Senate has yet to pass a single spending bill.

A shutdown is imminent. Senate is due for another vacation, but Senate Democrats are blocking spending bills. Why? They accuse McConnell of
a) padding DHS funding, so that there's extra Wall money, and
b) forcing wording into the spending bills that would allow Trump to change otherwise allocated money to Wall money without the need of Congress

If I'm reading this right, there's a week to resolve this. Considering the House has passed 10 out of 12 spending bills, this will land in McConnnell's lap regardless of the reason. I guess the question is, which would he rather have: a spending bill without Wall funding, or a shutdown that he's responsible for?

[Dontrike]

Gotta love it when they talk up a 44.7% approval rating.

Ha ha! More people still hate him than like him! Suck it libz!

[kaelleria]

What those articles about Trump's approval rating don't mention is that Trump's net approval rating is lower than Obama's ever was and that Obama's approval rating rebounded within a year and a half... Trump's is unlikely to do that.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ex_cid=rrpromo