Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Edge-]

https://www.wvtm13.com/article/feder...wful/29442165#

Judge David Briones said the president's proclamation — which called the southern U.S. border a security and humanitarian crisis — was "unlawful," according to a court document filed Friday.

And another loss for Trump on his "national emergency". It's not an Obama judge, either. A Clinton one, but not an "Obama judge".

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https://www.courthousenews.com/judge...igration-rule/

And we're back with a second helping of judicial losses -

Days after skewering the government’s rationale for denying green cards for immigrants on welfare, a federal judge has blocked the Trump administration’s so-called “public charge” rule on Friday.

In a scathing 24-page opinion, U.S. District Judge George Daniels cast the change as an unnecessary departure from procedures in place for “over a century.”

“Aside from conclusory allegations that they will ‘be harmed by the impediment’ to administering the immigration system, defendants did not – and cannot – articulate what actual hardship they will suffer from maintaining the status quo,” Daniels wrote.

He issued a nationwide, preliminary injunction upon the rule, which was supposed to take effect on Oct. 15. It would have barred immigrants who had received certain types of public assistance from applying for green cards.

[Breccia]

And we're back with a second helping

Third. The taxes thing was still just today.

Well, after a day filled with losses, I wonder what message the White House will --

The Chinese Communist Party is detaining and abusing more than one million Uyghur Muslims in internment camps in Xinjiang, the western region of China. The pages of George Orwell's 1984 are coming to life there. I wish the NBA would acknowledge that
-- Pompeo

Huh. Not sure which is more important:
1) Calling out China while the trade talks are going on, or
2) Deciding that, this week, the most important thing to discuss is basketball.

[Edge-]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...x-news-1247097

Shepard Smith is leaving Fox.

Sure is coincidental timing given that Barr just met in private with Murdoch on Wednesday.

[Breccia]

Shepard Smith is leaving Fox.

Hah hah, FOX News begged him to stay and he left anyhow.

[Edge-]

Hah hah, FOX News begged him to stay and he left anyhow.

I hate it, but I don't believe this was voluntary. And that as a result, Fox allowed him make them seem a bit "desperate" to keep him in order to get him out the door.

The timing is just too damn coincidental. They don't want him fact-checking and existing in reality during the impeachment process and the 2020 election. Trump is threatening to abandon them for OANN, and that'll hit the Fox bottom line hard, so they're circling the wagons to keep his favor.

[Breccia]

Once again, getting out in front of this.

Trump is likely to spend the weekend bragging about a major trade victory, which of course, he doesn't actually have.

1) What he and China agreed to involves China buying more agricultural products, which considering it's mid October isn't really all that helpful.

2) Trump agreed not to raise tariffs. Which means, by Trump's own arguments, that he's costing the government because he bragged about raking in all that money.

3) Oh, and he's not lowering tariffs. So the reality is, he's still applying the largest tax increase in American history. He just decided not to make it worse.

4) And finally, neither Trump nor China signed anything. It'll be three to five weeks before there are details on a document. This is an agreement, to have an agreement. So nothing changes for a while anyhow.

This is what I said it would be earlier: Trump basically tweeting so that the stock market would go up.

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I hate it, but I don't believe this was voluntary.

In such a case, we'd expect a mass exodus from the mass media excrement.

[Wyrt]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...x-news-1247097

Shepard Smith is leaving Fox.

Sure is coincidental timing given that Barr just met in private with Murdoch on Wednesday.

And now Fox is just pure propaganda without any source of facts.

[Edge-]

And now Fox is just pure propaganda without any source of facts.

There are a few others that at least pretty frequently step into reality, but their consistently realistic anchor is gone.

This is gonna make Trump very happy. I'm surprised Trump isn't tweeting about it yet.

But he's not missing an opportunity to join with Hannity to remind everyone about that time all those "uppity blacks" protested the "wrong way" by kneeling - https://twitter.com/seanhannity/stat...53606617513985

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https://twitter.com/benyc/status/1182738134792097792

So the White House sent talking points to House Democrats...again. This time on Yovanovitch.

[Wyrt]

https://twitter.com/benyc/status/1182738134792097792

So the White House sent talking points to House Democrats...again. This time on Yovanovitch.

Isn't the House Intelligence committee allowed to see classified information anyway? I thought that was like one of their main purposes.

[Breccia]

Don't forget that Trump is claiming he can unilaterally put any such agreement into effect without consulting Congress.

Considering Trump is only talking about lowering the tariffs he put on himself, at this point, he's correct.

And, yes, "talking". At time of writing, he's only said he's thinking about not raising them.

[Edge-]

https://www.theguardian.com/business...lings-in-talks

Good news, tariffs delayed because of "substantial progress" in talks!

There was also progress in September - https://www.aol.com/article/finance/...gress/23817002

And August - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ar/2118225001/

And March - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-trade-pledges

And February - https://www.france24.com/en/20190201...hina-trade-war

And that's just this year alone. It's almost like there's no actual progress but the administration is just lying to keep manipulate the markets or something.

[Shadowferal]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...x-news-1247097

Shepard Smith is leaving Fox.

Sure is coincidental timing given that Barr just met in private with Murdoch on Wednesday.

That's a pacifier for Trump.
I doubt that Murdoch will go any further.

[Edge-]

That's a pacifier for Trump.
I doubt that Murdoch will go any further.

I don't. Trump is threatening to "leave" Fox for OANN, and if that happens he brings his base (Fox's audience) with him. Murdoch understands the threat this puts on his entertainment company, and will absolutely bend over backwards to stay in Trump's good graces to protect his bottom line.

[Shadowferal]

Federal judge declares Trump border proclamation unlawful

A federal judge in Texas declared on Friday that President Trump's proclamation of a national emergency on the southern border is unlawful, blocking the plan to divert funding for a border wall.

Judge David Briones of the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas said in his opinion that the plan would be blocked after getting input from both sides in a lawsuit for the scope of an injunction.

He also ruled that El Paso has standing to sue the president and members of his Cabinet because the county "suffered reputational and economic injuries" as a result of the administration's rhetoric on the situation at the border and the construction plans that the proclamation entailed.

"The longer the President’s Proclamation remains in effect, the more the County’s reputation will be tarnished in the eyes of tourists and developers," the plaintiffs wrote in a filing in April.

[Edge-]

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ecular-society

Cool, so we functionally have our Attorney General arguing for a theocratic government. Yet another, "All our social woes are caused by secularists!" which ignores the reality that these issues affect people across all classes, including both religious and non-religious Americans.

[Thepersona]

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ecular-society

Cool, so we functionally have our Attorney General arguing for a theocratic government. Yet another, "All our social woes are caused by secularists!" which ignores the reality that these issues affect people across all classes, including both religious and non-religious Americans.

You know, to hear "the (insert problem here) was caused by the loss of religion" crowd is kinda refreshing.
I mean, its hypocritical as fuck (since he's defending the personification of the 7 deadly sins, and no, not the anime), but it's lile a return to the classics for the pearl clutchers.

[Thekri]

That shit is hilarious. I wonder if someone isn’t sending out the talking points on purpose at this point.

Oh I would put money on this not being an accident. Trump people are bitter as hell about all this, there is no shortage of angry staffers willing to leak anything that would hurt him.

[Wyrt]

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ecular-society

Cool, so we functionally have our Attorney General arguing for a theocratic government. Yet another, "All our social woes are caused by secularists!" which ignores the reality that these issues affect people across all classes, including both religious and non-religious Americans.

How about he goes and fucks himself with a pineapple?

[Paranoid Android]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...x-news-1247097

Shepard Smith is leaving Fox.

Sure is coincidental timing given that Barr just met in private with Murdoch on Wednesday.

Pretty obvious.

While not the litmus test if you always look at reactions from Fox viewers they hated Shep and wanted him removed. You know, actually getting the truth hurts.

So Fox generally ignored the crying from Fox viewers and kept Shep on. Of course just a coincidence that Barr meets with Murdoch and is now gone.

Amazing Barr, our bleeping USAG, represented Trump to get a news anchor personally fired.

Now going forward we will see if Fox gets back in line. Namely Chris Wallace and Andrew Napolitano will back off.

[pathora44]

Once again, getting out in front of this.

Trump is likely to spend the weekend bragging about a major trade victory, which of course, he doesn't actually have.

1) What he and China agreed to involves China buying more agricultural products, which considering it's mid October isn't really all that helpful.

2) Trump agreed not to raise tariffs. Which means, by Trump's own arguments, that he's costing the government because he bragged about raking in all that money.

3) Oh, and he's not lowering tariffs. So the reality is, he's still applying the largest tax increase in American history. He just decided not to make it worse.

4) And finally, neither Trump nor China signed anything. It'll be three to five weeks before there are details on a document. This is an agreement, to have an agreement. So nothing changes for a while anyhow.

This is what I said it would be earlier: Trump basically tweeting so that the stock market would go up.

This is the same as Trump waving around the blank piece of paper Kim Jon Un signed saying he made peace with North Korea. At this point though Trump will gladly sell the farm if it means he might get a cookie a month down the line.

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How about he goes and fucks himself with a pineapple?

Hmm add 1 in nails covering the pineapple and it will at least be acceptable.