Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[PhaelixWW]

And we're already seeing approval for Trump's handling of the coronavirus outbreak dropping.

I hear some presidents people learn better through pictures:

[Skulltaker]

And we're already seeing approval for Trump's handling of the coronavirus outbreak dropping.

Really isn't going to reverse, either, when all those body bags start hitting the news. For those non-scientific types out there, remember some states haven't even started locking down yet.

People literary had to die by the thousands for this to happen. Fucking insane.

[TigTone]

People literary had to die by the thousands for this to happen. Fucking insane.

It’s not real until it starts happening to someone you know or community.

Human brain instincts that protected us in our primitive times may be harmful to us now.

[cubby]

It will be interesting to start seeing attack ads (like the one we've already seen) using Trump's own words against him. Certainly there is enough in that ammo crate to last the century. If the Democrats can get the money worked out, billions in this case, it might be interesting in November.

Speaking of which, as his approvals start to tank, and the economy goes into the shitter, I'm curious when he'll start "joking" about postponing the election.

[Benggaul]

That whooshing sound you just heard was the US rocketing past 7k dead while Trump holds another propaganda dissemination with zero substance and zero help for American citizens.

[Edge-]

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...liveBlogHeader

“The original test, the ones we inherited… were broken, they were obsolete, they were not good tests,” Trump said during Friday night’s news conference.

We’ve fact checked this claim before. It's impossible for Trump to have inherited a broken testing system for COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. The novel coronavirus did not exist until late last year, when researchers believe it was transmitted from an animal to a human for the first time.

Leadership. Apparently.

[Skulltaker]

It’s not real until it starts happening to someone you know or community.

Human brain instincts that protected us in our primitive times may be harmful to us now.

I don't need anyone around me to die from a car crash to know they are real. I don't need to watch some child in Africa starve to death to know it happens. I don't have to witness rape to know it's a horrible thing. I have a hard time believing properly developed humans need to be demonstrated to know it's real.

[Benggaul]

It will be interesting to start seeing attack ads (like the one we've already seen) using Trump's own words against him. Certainly there is enough in that ammo crate to last the century. If the Democrats can get the money worked out, billions in this case, it might be interesting in November.

Speaking of which, as his approvals start to tank, and the economy goes into the shitter, I'm curious when he'll start "joking" about postponing the election.

Not even just the Democrats:
Kristol-backed group releases ad showing GOP voters blasting Trump over coronavirus response

[cubby]

I don't need anyone around me to die from a car crash to know they are real. I don't need to watch some child in Africa starve to death to know it happens. I don't have to witness rape to know it's a horrible thing. I have a hard time believing properly developed humans need to be demonstrated to know it's real.

But when they are being told it's not real, that it's "overblown", and an assault on the Resident, and an attempt by the Deep State to undermine Cheeto's authority, then it becomes unreal - until it's brought home in a very visceral way.

Trump and the GOP were pushing this bullshit conspiracy narrative for a few weeks, at least ("it's their new hoax"), and the far right nut job media sites are still pushing those narratives.

[cubby]

Not even just the Democrats:
Kristol-backed group releases ad showing GOP voters blasting Trump over coronavirus response

Interesting. I know there have been some GOP groups consistently against Trump and his twisted version of party. Good to see them doing this - it will all help come November.

[Edge-]

Trump, where every question is nasty and every answer is perfect.

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ockpile-remark

[beanman12345]

But when they are being told it's not real, that it's "overblown", and an assault on the Resident, and an attempt by the Deep State to undermine Cheeto's authority, then it becomes unreal - until it's brought home in a very visceral way.

Trump and the GOP were pushing this bullshit conspiracy narrative for a few weeks, at least ("it's their new hoax"), and the far right nut job media sites are still pushing those narratives.

Exactly, and to put an exclamation on your point, the Daily Show is saluting these media sites.

[TigTone]

I don't need anyone around me to die from a car crash to know they are real. I don't need to watch some child in Africa starve to death to know it happens. I don't have to witness rape to know it's a horrible thing. I have a hard time believing properly developed humans need to be demonstrated to know it's real.

I understand your point of view but some people are just that Dense! for a lack of a better word.

I can only guess their thought process and I’m sure there are studies to help explain it. I can come up a few idea right now but that would be to much to type.

[Breccia]

Not even just the Democrats

While this is hilarious and apt, the problem is a few people doesn't make a movement. And the WH really needs a movement. AHWINK.

Also: for those of you who weren't sure, Azar promises the US govt will take care of treatment for the uninsured.

Well. That's interesting. I'll point out that
a) that's a really good reason for people who are sick to jump off their coverage.
b) also, if you have one of those Trump-approved non-ACA plans, this is a really good time for them to kick you off.
c) hey, remember how the Democrats have been suggesting things like Medicare for All and the Republicans said no, no, too expensive, such socialism? Yeah...
d) but this is Breccia here, and we're going to talk numbers.

In a recent post, I looked around and found the cost of an insure person to be treated was about $35,000. Uninsured was double that, but, let's go with the smaller number.

2.4 million is the smallest estimate of severe cases.

That is $84 billion. Minimum.

And I know just where to find it.

[Paranoid Android]

TRUMP: "We have a stockpile. It's a federal stockpile. We can use that for states or we can use it for ourselves."

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/statu...066540038?s=19

Who is ourselves?

His personal stock? Something his family can profit off?

[Orbitus]

Since polls matter again



https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-pol...ronavirus-poll

Don't worry, Ghostpanther will find a randon obscure online poll from Project Veritas to claim this one is lying.

[Poopymonster]

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/statu...066540038?s=19

Who is ourselves?

His personal stock? Something his family can profit off?

Gold foil TRUMP logo emblazoned masks. Autographed by the man himself. From a jail cell.

[Orbitus]

I added to my comment, he's a fucking hero. No wonder Trump's guys had him fired.

His sailors send him off after telling Trump that he is fucking retarded. I would rather have an entire FLEET of these guys at the helm of ships, than any Trump bootlickers that are doing anything and everything to appease the Orange Shitstain in the White House.

[beanman12345]

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His sailors send him off after telling Trump that he is fucking retarded. I would rather have an entire FLEET of these guys at the helm of ships, than any Trump bootlickers that are doing anything and everything to appease the Orange Shitstain in the White House.

Man is a damn hero, and whenever we get this Orange Shitstain out of office, bet your ass this guy's getting all sorts of medals and commendations.

[Breccia]

Trump lays the groundwork for voter suppression.

Trump on Friday said he's confident the general election in November won't be delayed by the coronavirus, but he rejected the idea of having every state prepare to conduct mail-in voting.

The president, speaking at the daily White House briefing on the pandemic, made clear he does not support using vote-by-mail as a backstop in the event the outbreak keeps people from going to the polls.

“No, because I think a lot of people cheat with mail in voting," said Trump, who has levied baseless accusations about voter fraud that he claims kept him from winning the popular vote in 2016. "I think people should vote with ID, voter ID. I think voter ID is very important, and the reason they don’t want voter ID is because they intend to cheat."

“It shouldn’t be mail-in voting," he added. "It should be you go to a booth and you proudly display yourself. You don’t send it in the mail where people can pick up — all sorts of bad things can happen…by the time it gets in and is tabulated."

So we're back to voter fraud. Oh, goodie.

Trump's comments are unsubstantiated. If he has evidence, his election fraud commission would have OH WAIT.

November is a long time away, but, as we keep seeing, Republicans know they're outnumbered and voter suppression is kind of their thing. However, two things:

1) Old people are more likely to stay at home in general, far more so if they think they might die if they leave the house, and

2) Trump can't do anything about it, the states do. Trump can't block states from encouraging mailed votes, and

3) The fraud we know about with absentee ballots was caused by Republicans, so Trump can fuck right off.