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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Here's the problem with Trumpsters, they are not conservatives... they are national socialists.
    I like how a Wall is now supposed to protect from a virus...

    Especially since your chances of getting the virus in US are better than bringing it to US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I like how a Wall is now supposed to protect from a virus...

    Especially since your chances of getting the virus in US are better than bringing it to US.
    I'm going to let you in on a little secret that the Trumpsters don't want you to know. It's not about Covid-19, or diseases, or jobs, or crime, or terrorism.

    That was never why they wanted to keep out foreigners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pathora44 View Post
    Oh no what ever would we do if everyone in that room got Covid-19 and possibly die from it. How on Earth could the country ever move forward from that?
    People i know would likely start a riot because they'll think its the democrats trying to overthrow trump. Source: My dad.
    people who still support trump still past impeachment are dangerously stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I'm going to let you in on a little secret that the Trumpsters don't want you to know. It's not about Covid-19, or diseases, or jobs, or crime, or terrorism.

    That was never why they wanted to keep out foreigners.
    Similar topic, but I watched something about ‘Ancient Aliens’ that I didn’t consider when binge watching it. The justification for aliens is almost always that dark people couldn’t possibly come up with things like irrigation. How could Egyptians, possibly accomplish all these feats by them selfs... must be aliens. How can Mayans have irrigation, before Europe? Obviously... aliens... Gun powder? aliens...

    It’s so ingrained in conspiracy theory that leads to that sort of logic, that even benign and amusing conspiracy theories, have this unintended and largely circumstantial, racist undertones. I thought it was interesting in contrast to what illegals are supposed to represent and the assumption Trump’s immigration policy is predicated on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekkle View Post
    People i know would likely start a riot because they'll think its the democrats trying to overthrow trump. Source: My dad.
    people who still support trump still past impeachment are dangerously stupid.
    Well, we see it Michigan and with all the reports of attacking nurses. It’s not a prediction at this moment... if Trump loses, their targets will be cops and medical professional. That’s what they have been doing in response to covid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Similar topic, but I watched something about ‘Ancient Aliens’ that I didn’t consider when binge watching it. The justification for aliens is almost always that dark people couldn’t possibly come up with things like irrigation. How could Egyptians, possibly accomplish all these feats by them selfs... must be aliens. How can Mayans have irrigation, before Europe? Obviously... aliens... Gun powder? aliens...

    It’s so ingrained in conspiracy theory that leads to that sort of logic, that even benign and amusing conspiracy theories, have this unintended and largely circumstantial, racist undertones. I thought it was interesting in contrast to what illegals are supposed to represent and the assumption Trump’s immigration policy is predicated on.

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    Well, we see it Michigan and with all the reports of attacking nurses. It’s not a prediction at this moment... if Trump loses, their targets will be cops and medical professional. That’s what they have been doing in response to covid.
    I hate my country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekkle View Post
    I hate my country.
    I always wanted to do this...

    Hate the player, not the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Yes, there's always a reason to fear foreigners coming in your country. If it'snot a pandemic, it's jobs, or crime, or terrorism, or multiculturalism.

    Here's the problem with Trumpsters, they are not conservatives... they are national socialists.

    They oppose simple concepts like individual liberty, limited government, and the free markets... far more than Democrats and the left do.
    Your false narrative is fake news.

    Wanting controlled borders and legal management of immigration is the sensible, correct approach.

    It ensures the criminals stay out, and people can be quarantine controlled in times of pandemic.

    To want open borders to let murderers, drug dealers and infection roam with riot is the same as advocating murderous ideaology.

    In short, i am calling you a terrorist with murderous intentions because those are the policies that have your support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Your false narrative is fake news.

    Wanting controlled borders and legal management of immigration is the sensible, correct approach.

    It ensures the criminals stay out, and people can be quarantine controlled in times of pandemic.

    To want open borders to let murderers, drug dealers and infection roam with riot is the same as advocating murderous ideaology.

    In short, i am calling you a terrorist with murderous intentions because those are the policies that have your support.
    Saying it over and over again doesn't make your bullshit any more true. It's no different than when Trump says the same lies over and over again.

    Well, your last sentence about covers your insanity... thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Your false narrative is fake news.

    Wanting controlled borders and legal management of immigration is the sensible, correct approach.

    It ensures the criminals stay out, and people can be quarantine controlled in times of pandemic.

    To want open borders to let murderers, drug dealers and infection roam with riot is the same as advocating murderous ideaology.

    In short, i am calling you a terrorist with murderous intentions because those are the policies that have your support.
    Given that you believe all of that, do you still support Trump having closed, or virtually closed, all of the legal methods of immigration? Or are you going to say that's "fake news" as well, and hand-wave it away?

    It's also amusing that you are arguing against open borders. Which literally nobody on any of the political sides in the US actually want. So are you against "fake news" or in favour of it, given that you're spreading it in this thread? Because whichever way you answer that question, you are a hypocrite and you're posting in bad faith.

    I swear the standards of these people is dropping by the week. This one claims to be university educated from the UK and against immigration, but the structure of the language used suggests low education and English as a second language. Does he hate himself? Is he lying? Who knows, or indeed cares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Wanting controlled borders and legal management of immigration is the sensible, correct approach.
    Controlled borders is one thing many can agree with, but a wall will not do that in the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    Given that you believe all of that, do you still support Trump having closed, or virtually closed, all of the legal methods of immigration? Or are you going to say that's "fake news" as well, and hand-wave it away?

    It's also amusing that you are arguing against open borders. Which literally nobody on any of the political sides in the US actually want. So are you against "fake news" or in favour of it, given that you're spreading it in this thread? Because whichever way you answer that question, you are a hypocrite and you're posting in bad faith.

    I swear the standards of these people is dropping by the week. This one claims to be university educated from the UK and against immigration, but the structure of the language used suggests low education and English as a second language. Does he hate himself? Is he lying? Who knows, or indeed cares.
    Machismo wants to take the current definition of illegal immigration, and make it legal.

    It is currently illegal to cross countries freely without management.

    He is in fact clearly advocating uncontrolled open borders to be legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Machismo wants to take the current definition of illegal immigration, and make it legal.

    It is currently illegal to cross countries freely without management.

    He is in fact clearly advocating uncontrolled open borders to be legal.
    And I'm literally the only one on these forums who supports almost no immigration restrictions... and I'm a conservative.

    So, does that mean all conservatives want open borders? Or, are you going to admit to being full of shit?

    And yes, I love the idea of getting rid of burdensome and unnecessary laws that restrict freedom, instead of protecting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I always wanted to do this...

    Hate the player, not the game.
    you think i'm smart enough to do that? pffft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Similar topic, but I watched something about ‘Ancient Aliens’ that I didn’t consider when binge watching it. The justification for aliens is almost always that dark people couldn’t possibly come up with things like irrigation. How could Egyptians, possibly accomplish all these feats by them selfs... must be aliens. How can Mayans have irrigation, before Europe? Obviously... aliens... Gun powder? aliens...

    It’s so ingrained in conspiracy theory that leads to that sort of logic, that even benign and amusing conspiracy theories, have this unintended and largely circumstantial, racist undertones. I thought it was interesting in contrast to what illegals are supposed to represent and the assumption Trump’s immigration policy is predicated on.

    Edit: To give credit where I heard it:


    I use to love the history channel. When I was home sick from school and they had a documentary on something I liked like Feudal Japan or Europe I would watch it all day. Now it is nothing more then reality rednecks and I fucking hate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    And I'm literally the only one on these forums who supports almost no immigration restrictions... and I'm a conservative.

    So, does that mean all conservatives want open borders? Or, are you going to admit to being full of shit?

    And yes, I love the idea of getting rid of burdensome and unnecessary laws that restrict freedom, instead of protecting it.
    Exactly as i said.

    You are supporting freedom of terrorism, freedom of drugs and human trafficking.

    Your policies will lead to unnecessary murders and virus spreading.

    It's no surprise more people support the wall than not.

    Good job that it is being built.

    Once it is finished, they would do well to incorporate digital monitoring into it aswell.

    Additional security guards would be a great way to spend hard earned tax money.

    Southern USA might be worth visiting once this has happened.

    Probably a boost to the economy through increased tourism too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Controlled borders is one thing many can agree with, but a wall will not do that in the least.
    It really will.

    It limits physical ability to cross the border.

    Add in security guards and digital monitoring and the numbers of illegal crossings dramatically drops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pathora44 View Post
    I use to love the history channel. When I was home sick from school and they had a documentary on something I liked like Feudal Japan or Europe I would watch it all day. Now it is nothing more then reality rednecks and I fucking hate it.
    Bit off topic, if you are interested in history i strongly suggest this podcast, https://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/ the free episodes are also available on Spotify.

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    This thread name change is full of shit. So it was ok for 2+ years and all of a sudden it's not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Bit off topic, if you are interested in history i strongly suggest this podcast, https://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/ the free episodes are also available on Spotify.
    And if you want fucked up moments in American history (and sometimes other countries if they are on tour) mixed with comedy try The Dollop.

    And just to keep it on topic, here's part one of their 2-part Trump episodes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Exactly as i said.

    You are supporting freedom of terrorism, freedom of drugs and human trafficking.

    Your policies will lead to unnecessary murders and virus spreading.

    It's no surprise more people support the wall than not.

    Good job that it is being built.

    Once it is finished, they would do well to incorporate digital monitoring into it aswell.

    Additional security guards would be a great way to spend hard earned tax money.

    Southern USA might be worth visiting once this has happened.

    Probably a boost to the economy through increased tourism too.

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    It really will.

    It limits physical ability to cross the border.

    Add in security guards and digital monitoring and the numbers of illegal crossings dramatically drops.
    Yeah, Trumpsters trying to call me a terrorist... like I give a shit.

    You guys support a racist and a rapist, so the less you think of me, then better. I love your continued dog whistling and pandering to racists.

    Thanks for displaying your racism/xenophobia time and time again. It's amazing how many British national socialists we have in these forums. Your fear and hatred of immigrants seems to come from a very dark place, you should see about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Exactly as i said.

    You are supporting freedom of terrorism, freedom of drugs and human trafficking.

    Your policies will lead to unnecessary murders and virus spreading.

    It's no surprise more people support the wall than not.

    Good job that it is being built.

    Once it is finished, they would do well to incorporate digital monitoring into it aswell.

    Additional security guards would be a great way to spend hard earned tax money.

    Southern USA might be worth visiting once this has happened.

    Probably a boost to the economy through increased tourism too.

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    It really will.

    It limits physical ability to cross the border.

    Add in security guards and digital monitoring and the numbers of illegal crossings dramatically drops.
    Oops, giving away that "illegal immigration" was code for race, after all, and that your indignation was feigned, surprising no one.

    Any chance you're aware of the fact that illegal immigrants commit fewer crimes than native-born Americans? No? They don't mention that on FOX? Or OAN, or whatever right-wing propaganda you're consuming without a second thought? Also surprising no one.

    And since you're so concerned about virus spreading, any harsh words for Trump turning down free flu shots for detained migrants after 3 kids died from it, and doctors begged the administration to let doctors provide them at no cost? How about the administration ordering the removal public service announcement posters in immigration courts on how to limit the spread of Covid19 (though reversed after they got caught)? You must be really upset Trump and company did that. No? For the hat trick, surprising no one.
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