Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Similar topic, but I watched something about ‘Ancient Aliens’ that I didn’t consider when binge watching it. The justification for aliens is almost always that dark people couldn’t possibly come up with things like irrigation. How could Egyptians, possibly accomplish all these feats by them selfs... must be aliens. How can Mayans have irrigation, before Europe? Obviously... aliens... Gun powder? aliens...
It’s so ingrained in conspiracy theory that leads to that sort of logic, that even benign and amusing conspiracy theories, have this unintended and largely circumstantial, racist undertones. I thought it was interesting in contrast to what illegals are supposed to represent and the assumption Trump’s immigration policy is predicated on.
Edit: To give credit where I heard it:
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Well, we see it Michigan and with all the reports of attacking nurses. It’s not a prediction at this moment... if Trump loses, their targets will be cops and medical professional. That’s what they have been doing in response to covid.
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Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Your false narrative is fake news.
Wanting controlled borders and legal management of immigration is the sensible, correct approach.
It ensures the criminals stay out, and people can be quarantine controlled in times of pandemic.
To want open borders to let murderers, drug dealers and infection roam with riot is the same as advocating murderous ideaology.
In short, i am calling you a terrorist with murderous intentions because those are the policies that have your support.
Given that you believe all of that, do you still support Trump having closed, or virtually closed, all of the legal methods of immigration? Or are you going to say that's "fake news" as well, and hand-wave it away?
It's also amusing that you are arguing against open borders. Which literally nobody on any of the political sides in the US actually want. So are you against "fake news" or in favour of it, given that you're spreading it in this thread? Because whichever way you answer that question, you are a hypocrite and you're posting in bad faith.
I swear the standards of these people is dropping by the week. This one claims to be university educated from the UK and against immigration, but the structure of the language used suggests low education and English as a second language. Does he hate himself? Is he lying? Who knows, or indeed cares.
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And I'm literally the only one on these forums who supports almost no immigration restrictions... and I'm a conservative.
So, does that mean all conservatives want open borders? Or, are you going to admit to being full of shit?
And yes, I love the idea of getting rid of burdensome and unnecessary laws that restrict freedom, instead of protecting it.
Exactly as i said.
You are supporting freedom of terrorism, freedom of drugs and human trafficking.
Your policies will lead to unnecessary murders and virus spreading.
It's no surprise more people support the wall than not.
Good job that it is being built.
Once it is finished, they would do well to incorporate digital monitoring into it aswell.
Additional security guards would be a great way to spend hard earned tax money.
Southern USA might be worth visiting once this has happened.
Probably a boost to the economy through increased tourism too.
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It really will.
It limits physical ability to cross the border.
Add in security guards and digital monitoring and the numbers of illegal crossings dramatically drops.
Bit off topic, if you are interested in history i strongly suggest this podcast, https://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/ the free episodes are also available on Spotify.
This thread name change is full of shit. So it was ok for 2+ years and all of a sudden it's not?
Yeah, Trumpsters trying to call me a terrorist... like I give a shit.
You guys support a racist and a rapist, so the less you think of me, then better. I love your continued dog whistling and pandering to racists.
Thanks for displaying your racism/xenophobia time and time again. It's amazing how many British national socialists we have in these forums. Your fear and hatred of immigrants seems to come from a very dark place, you should see about that.
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Oops, giving away that "illegal immigration" was code for race, after all, and that your indignation was feigned, surprising no one.
Any chance you're aware of the fact that illegal immigrants commit fewer crimes than native-born Americans? No? They don't mention that on FOX? Or OAN, or whatever right-wing propaganda you're consuming without a second thought? Also surprising no one.
And since you're so concerned about virus spreading, any harsh words for Trump turning down free flu shots for detained migrants after 3 kids died from it, and doctors begged the administration to let doctors provide them at no cost? How about the administration ordering the removal public service announcement posters in immigration courts on how to limit the spread of Covid19 (though reversed after they got caught)? You must be really upset Trump and company did that. No? For the hat trick, surprising no one.
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time. --Frank Wilhoit