Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Captain N]

Shanghai Disney opened up recently. Apparently they have a lot of rules/restrictions in place and the attendance is pretty low. I'm actually not so worried about Disney, they'll enforce rules and kick people out. Having people catch the virus at their park and die from it is not gonna be a good look for the company. Bars...not so much.

Last I knew Disney was all "Everyprincess calm down, we got this." and not planning on reopening regardless of DeSatan's plans.

Well there are the bars in Disney Springs and Universal has the City Walk -- as for the they don't want people to get sick in their parks I agree. Unfortunately it appears that if McConnell has his way all those theme parks will get is bad publicity and those falling ill won't be able to sue.

[Edge-]

Well there are the bars in Disney Springs and Universal has the City Walk -- as for the they don't want people to get sick in their parks I agree. Unfortunately it appears that if McConnell has his way all those theme parks will get is bad publicity and those falling ill won't be able to sue.

Bad publicity matters to a company like Disney. Getting a rep as, "The family company that dangerously let families into their park, infecting and killing people." when their parks are one of their main revenue drivers isn't gonna fly. Being free of legal liability is largely pretty trivial, as the loss in revenue from the reputation hit would likely exceed whatever "trivial" (for Disney's money) settlements they'd make to end the lawsuits.

[unfilteredJW]

Bad publicity matters to a company like Disney. Getting a rep as, "The family company that dangerously let families into their park, infecting and killing people." when their parks are one of their main revenue drivers isn't gonna fly. Being free of legal liability is largely pretty trivial, as the loss in revenue from the reputation hit would likely exceed whatever "trivial" (for Disney's money) settlements they'd make to end the lawsuits.

To add: Disney shut down very early and no one tells them what to do in FL.

[beanman12345]

Well Disney Springs is reopening, but it's only a limited amount of shops and restaurants, and they are all third party, according to their website. Disneyworld resort and hotels are all staying closed. But I did read they've agreed with their workers unions on safety for their staff for when they do eventually open.

[Omega10]

Bad publicity matters to a company like Disney. Getting a rep as, "The family company that dangerously let families into their park, infecting and killing people." when their parks are one of their main revenue drivers isn't gonna fly. Being free of legal liability is largely pretty trivial, as the loss in revenue from the reputation hit would likely exceed whatever "trivial" (for Disney's money) settlements they'd make to end the lawsuits.

Disney sells itself as being a family friendly safe trustable kind of company. They worked hard to develop this reputation, and mostly they have succeeded. They would lose a lot more than a hundred million or so in lawsuits due to people cancelling Disney+ and not buying Disney merchandise if they were considered to have acted recklessly in opening their theme parks.

[solinari6]

Can you imagine lines for the rollercoaster at disney with people 6 feet apart? LOL

[Omega10]

From the WaPo: As Trump spoke, loud honking could be heard in the Rose Garden. Trump claimed it was coming from truckers who are supportive of him — in a “sign of love” — not from people protesting his administration’s performance.



Its pity, not horror.

Horror - people are SHOCKED and can't believe we would act that way. Underlying theme: we are decent people acting out of character.
Pity - people are not at all surprised at our bad behavior.

I like the headline much better. I suspect and fear that your interpretation is a lot more accurate though. Not to mention disgust at some of the crap that Trump has tried to pull off, and at the protestors as well. The protestors seem to be tarnishing the reputation of the US quite effectively.

[Edge-]

Disney sells itself as being a family friendly safe trustable kind of company. They worked hard to develop this reputation, and mostly they have succeeded. They would lose a lot more than a hundred million or so in lawsuits due to people cancelling Disney+ and not buying Disney merchandise if they were considered to have acted recklessly in opening their theme parks.

Yep, that's why I'm not particularly worried about Disney, or even really Universal. Those are major global brands, not local bars, and global brands always try to protect the brand. The brand is what drives all the value, and you hurt that and as you said it has downstream affects across the board.

[Sunseeker]

Bad publicity matters to a company like Disney. Getting a rep as, "The family company that dangerously let families into their park, infecting and killing people." when their parks are one of their main revenue drivers isn't gonna fly. Being free of legal liability is largely pretty trivial, as the loss in revenue from the reputation hit would likely exceed whatever "trivial" (for Disney's money) settlements they'd make to end the lawsuits.

Also, Disney has had numerous instances in the past regarding transmission of various diseases, particularly in relation to their water-rides (Six Flags: Hurricane Harbor has had similar issues) and they got a lot of shit for them in the past, and have done a pretty good job handling them in the present as a result. They really didn't like the idea that people were associating going to Disneyland with getting horrible diseases.

[Redwyrm]

This isn't bad, honestly, just kinda dumb. "Ballot harvesting" is legal in CA, the state updated the rules for the 2018 election to allow anyone to collect and drop off sealed mail-in ballots, not just family members. He's specifically talking about using a similar tactic in CA, not the other states where it's illegal.

Though there's some irony in that there have been no instances of confirmed meaningful voter fraud in CA with our mail in ballots, while Republicans actually did engage in illegal ballot harvesting and voter fraud in NC in 2018.

He's still triggered from all his pathetically pointless lawsuits against Twitter parody accounts and journalists correctly writing about how he's a fake farmer. His lawsuit on the latter currently being in freefall, with the judge threatening to toss the case if Nunes can't actually say what about their reporting was false and/or defamatory.

He's a pathetic bag of flesh and water.

Thank goodness that Trump has a tweet for every occassion

GET RID OF BALLOT HARVESTING, IT IS RAMPANT WITH FRAUD. THE USA MUST HAVE VOTER I.D., THE ONLY WAY TO GET AN HONEST COUNT!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 14, 2020

[alexw]

Disney sells itself as being a family friendly safe trustable kind of company. They worked hard to develop this reputation, and mostly they have succeeded. They would lose a lot more than a hundred million or so in lawsuits due to people cancelling Disney+ and not buying Disney merchandise if they were considered to have acted recklessly in opening their theme parks.

This.

To Disney their reputation as warm cuddly and family friendly is everything.

Its why South Park portrays Disney as being run by a murderous psychopathic mouse, because of the extent to which Disney goes to portray this false image when in reality they are no different than any other profit motivated mega-corp.

So they aren't going to risk that image which they've spent decades building just for a short term profits boost.

They've got far more to lose than gain.

[Nellise]

Apparently Trump's plan is to wait for the virus to get bored and go bother something else so we don't need to do anything about it: "we’re going to be like so many other cases where you had a problem come in, it’ll go away at some point, it’ll go away.” (he said it again today)

[Breccia]

Can we talk about how Trump is willing to fuck multiple US companies and suppliers, just to have his revenge on Huawei?

Thing is, I kinda get this. If China and Huawei are as much of a security risk as the GOP is saying, blocking them is the only option that makes sense.

But.

That's yet more nails into the increasingly magnetic coffin of the trade deal with China. Trump is running out of campaign promises that don't contradict each other.

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"we’re going to be like so many other cases where you had a problem come in, it’ll go away at some point, it’ll go away.”

Trump yadda yadda's over things like 'we find a vaccine" and "we act responsibly until that happens".

I mean, WWII went away, because hundreds of thousands died trying to make it go away.

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"thin packet of paper."

Was it more, or fewer, pages than the Constitution? Also, did the "thin packet of paper" say "Ask the CDC response team to do their job, and for fuck's sake don't fire them all"?

[Odinfrost]

Can we talk about how Trump is willing to fuck multiple US companies and suppliers, just to have his revenge on Huawei?

So... What are the odds that China will even ENTERTAIN the idea of a Phase 1 Version 2.0 that will fall apart faster than a pile of ash in a hurricane?

[Dead Moose Fandango]

Can you imagine lines for the rollercoaster at disney with people 6 feet apart? LOL

They'd probably raise prices to try and make up the loss in numbers.

[The Royal We]

A super duper missile folks... that is the President, of the US, I am not even going to start on how stupid Space force is...but, I would love a "what he really meant" from a trump supporter right about now because it sounds like a 10 year old is occupying a 73 year old's body. How are his supporters not in self imposed exile by now? I was embarrassed to be in the same country as him before he was elected.

[Edge-]

I think you'll like this tweet.

https://www.state.gov/bureaus-office...n-initiatives/

The Office of Counterproliferation Initiatives leads efforts to develop, implement, and improve counterproliferation policies, which are designed to impede the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. It works closely with the White House and other agencies, including the Departments of Defense, Treasury, Commerce, Homeland Security, and Justice, and with the intelligence community, to develop and implement appropriate diplomatic, defense, law enforcement, and rapid response options, and other international measures designed to combat the proliferation of WMD.

Uh...the virus is a WMD now?

Not sure about the Biodefense Directorate, nothing is popping up on search. Maybe she means this agency? https://www.dhs.gov/science-and-tech...easures-center

[Kaleredar]

They'd probably raise prices to try and make up the loss in numbers.

Disney tickets aren’t exactly inexpensive already...

[Breccia]

I think you'll like this tweet.

Well that's cute.

But these people got a close-up look at this picture:



You might not be able to read that title, but it's apparently "Pandemic Crisis Action Plan Ver. 2.0"

It is far too fucking late to wave something called 2.0

And, yes, McEnemy is in no position to "fact check" shit. She's already claiming that Obama left them nothing, which we know to be a lie. Trump also said Obama left them a faulty test, an objective lie. And even if that (and related bits) didn't happen, it's three years later, and the results of their actions are now eighty-seven thousand deep.

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A dark web hacking group says they have Trump documents and wants $42 million or they'll release them.

"What do you think they are?"

Fake.

Thieves are inherently untrustworthy. If they release anything, I'm assuming fake unless it's independently verified.

[beanman12345]

Ahh love the Fake eyelashes and a cross around her neck. What a fraud. Dumbkirk indead.