Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Elegiac]

https://www.citizen-times.com/story/...rt/9439056002/

Oh look, one of Trump's favorite people, Madison Cawthorn, charged with driving with a revoked license...again.

Has someone told Off-Brand Ken that he's ostensibly in the party of law and order?

[cubby]

That Tina Peters nutball in Colorado has been indicted for several counts, all related to her deluded belief in the Big Lie.

Good. That is very important that she is being prosecuted.

[Breccia]

Good. That is very important that she is being prosecuted.

And a colleague, apparently. Belinda Knisley, from @Edge- 's post. Hmm, don't know much about her. I'm on it.

Knisley faces charges of second-degree burglary and cybercrime related to alleged activity at the Mesa County Clerk and Recorder’s Office.

Holy shit, burglary? That's, like, totally olde schoole crime.

In the affidavit supporting her arrest warrant, it is alleged that Knisley used Mesa Co. Clerk and Recorder Tina Peters’ (R) work station to access the county’s secure computer network on Aug. 25, 2021. Two days earlier, Knisley’s employment with the county had been suspended and her own access to county network systems had been disabled. Her suspension stemmed from alleged workplace misconduct. Her suspension and the investigation are currently ongoing.

Among other charges, it is also alleged that Knisley sent emails from Peters’ email address to the county’s IT department asking for a “print-pin” password to be sent over email. Per policy, the county is not allowed to send passwords over email.

That's from her not guilty plea hearing Jan 11th, but as per usual I have to ask, why anyone would claim to be innocent when they themselves posted evidence? Seriously why are all these GOPeople committing crimes on emails and text messages? What happened to public parks, parking garages, and men's bathr...oh, right. Almost forgot about that last one.

[Edge-]

https://thehill.com/regulation/court...-phone-records

Stephen Miller suing because...he's on a family plan and there are lawyers on that plan and consequently all call records should apparently be protected by attorney/client privilege. Because Special Masters don't exist.

Fuck bald-ass white supremacists.

[Breccia]

all call records should apparently be protected by attorney/client privilege.

I'll wait for @cubby to respond, but my gut feeling is "nope". There are specialized teams to check piles of evidence for what is, and isn't, privilege.

[solinari6]

https://thehill.com/regulation/court...-phone-records

Stephen Miller suing because...he's on a family plan and there are lawyers on that plan and consequently all call records should apparently be protected by attorney/client privilege. Because Special Masters don't exist.

Fuck bald-ass white supremacists.

Pretty sure his mommy or daddy will need to sue for him, since they are ones who own the account. LOL

[Edge-]

Pretty sure his mommy or daddy will need to sue for him, since they are ones who own the account. LOL

It's a pretty brilliant legal strategy for delays though: Just always be on a family plan with a few lawyers and doctors who use their phones for work and you can't ever have your call logs subpoena'd since you'd violate privacy laws!

Because I guess special masters still don't exist : (

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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-pac-f...anding-1686538

Following the private jet Trump borrowed having engine trouble and needing an emergency landing, his PAC is now fundraising for his own private jet because Trump can't afford one.

He's in the wrong business for this, he needs to be a televangelist to beg his followers for tithes so he can live the lifestyle of the rich and famous.

[cubby]

I'll wait for @cubby to respond, but my gut feeling is "nope". There are specialized teams to check piles of evidence for what is, and isn't, privilege.

@Edge has it - the Special Masters will sort out the evidence for privilege. I've literally done and supervised these kind of evidence reviews for large document pulls (10MM+) - it's a privilege review of documents (evidence) to sort out exactly what Stephen Miller is claiming as an issue.

The suit has zero merit, and is apparently utilizing the same strategy as Trump, attempting to sue until the issue goes away.

(to be clear/precise, I never worked as a Special Master - but the type of review they are doing is common in many law suits - I did those)

[Breccia]

Bolton goes on a different interview and

said Wednesday that one of the reasons that Russian President Vladimir Putin did not move to invade Ukraine during former President Trump's term in office was that he saw "Trump doing a lot of his work for him."

He said in an interview on SiriusXM's "Julie Mason Mornings" that he thought maybe in a second term, Trump would "make good" on his "desire to get out of NATO," which would then ease Putin's path forward.

Bolton said he believes that the Russian president thinks "a weaker NATO" equals a "stronger Russia."

[Dontrike]

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/m...tion-data-leak



Womp womp. The election fraud attempts are coming from inside the house.

I think I saw a clip of her being arrested. It was pretty funny, she tried kicking an officer and it's a shame she missed because if she hit that would have been a great clip to put on repeat to watch the take down happen.

[Templar 331]

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/s...423251456?s=21

What does Russia, Ukraine, and windmills have in common? Hell if I know but Trump seems to think there's a link.

[Edge-]

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/s...423251456?s=21

What does Russia, Ukraine, and windmills have in common? Hell if I know but Trump seems to think there's a link.

He has a thing against windmills, he thinks they cause cancer.

[Templar 331]

He has a thing against windmills, he thinks they cause cancer.

I hate to sound conspiracy theorists here, but do you think he pivoted to windmills because he knows what Putin's plan is? Or is he just really batshit crazy?

[DarkTZeratul]

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/s...423251456?s=21

What does Russia, Ukraine, and windmills have in common?

A crazy man trying to fight a fight he can't win?

[Fugus]

I hate to sound conspiracy theorists here, but do you think he pivoted to windmills because he knows what Putin's plan is? Or is he just really batshit crazy?

I really doubt Putin would have told Trump his plan, Trumps inability to shut up is almost legendary at this point. Putin told him what he thought he needed to hear to do what he wants. Whether what Trump knows is true or not, he knows to do what daddy Putin told him to do.

[Templar 331]

I really doubt Putin would have told Trump his plan, Trumps inability to shut up is almost legendary at this point. Putin told him what he thought he needed to hear to do what he wants. Whether what Trump knows is true or not, he knows to do what daddy Putin told him to do.

That's the thing, he'll run his mouth and put this country in danger. He's done it multiple times, but has he done the same thing with countries he likes? You're right he wouldn't cross Putin but is his buffoonery just an act?

I had a supervisor that was a complete buffoon, but after years of watching his stupidity I started to see the workings of his mind. He would tell us to do stupid things because he had a schemes to make himself look good at our expense. Most of us thought he didn't have a clue about the rules or procedures but after I realized he wouldn't be the one taking the fall it all fit into place. Trump will never face consequences for spilling the inner workings of this country, but Russia's plans? I bet he fears their retaliation.

[Edge-]

I hate to sound conspiracy theorists here, but do you think he pivoted to windmills because he knows what Putin's plan is? Or is he just really batshit crazy?

No, there's literally nothing to this. He likes ranting any time he has the opportunity, and has a big list of his "greatest hits" to choose from depending on his mercurial mood. "Windmills cause cancer and look bad and kill birds." is one of the more popular ones.

[Fugus]

That's the thing, he'll run his mouth and put this country in danger. He's done it multiple times, but has he done the same thing with countries he likes? You're right he wouldn't cross Putin but is his buffoonery just an act?

I had a supervisor that was a complete buffoon, but after years of watching his stupidity I started to see the workings of his mind. He would tell us to do stupid things because he had a schemes to make himself look good at our expense. Most of us thought he didn't have a clue about the rules or procedures but after I realized he wouldn't be the one taking the fall it all fit into place. Trump will never face consequences for spilling the inner workings of this country, but Russia's plans? I bet he fears their retaliation.

Agreed he fears that retaliation, but at the same time, Putin (Or really anyone with any knowledge of the man) wouldn't tell Trump anything without the expectation of Trump repeating it either via a rant or bragging to another unless it directly implicated Trump himself in ways obvious even to Trump.

He will run his mouth and put the US in danger, the US isn't him.
He will run his mouth and put our troops in danger, they aren't him.
He will run his mouth and put his friends in danger unless they can drag him down with them and he knows it, because they aren't him.

Anything Putin tells Trump, he knows that, unless it is immediately obvious and can fall back onto Trump himself, Trump will talk about it to make himself feel good.

Think of it this way, mentally, Trump is like an old, weak, and bloated version of Homelander on a mental decline.

[Breccia]

What does Russia, Ukraine, and windmills have in common? Hell if I know but Trump seems to think there's a link.

"On a UFC podcast today..."

Ladies and gentlemen, Donald Trump's life.

[Templar 331]

Go ahead and explain how pivoting to green energy is somehow the nefarious reason behind this war. Without sounding like a conspiracy theorist.

It's not my reasoning. It's when the interviewer asked Trump "what do you see happening next then?" Trump pivoted. Like others have said it was likely he wanted to throw shit at renewable energy, but to me it seemed like he didn't want to answer the question because he knew what was going to happen. And if he said what it was that Putin wouldn't be happy. Like Trump's a part of a literal conspiracy against Ukraine.