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    So how come Trump is actually being pressured to pay his court fine while Alex Jones is somehow able to ignore his and continue like it never happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Very Tired View Post
    So how come Trump is actually being pressured to pay his court fine while Alex Jones is somehow able to ignore his and continue like it never happened?
    I assume Alex Jones wasn't in NYC (I believe its Texas?) and Texas has different laws regarding payment.

    Also Jones declaring bankruptcy probably delays proceedings. Trump, for obvious ego reasons, isn't declaring bankruptcy.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    Forget just President, have it for all forms of public office on the State and Federal level. There need to be age limits. They already prevent people who are "too young" from running, so "too old" should be just as easy to add in.
    Back when a bunch of deist terrorists gave the brits the finger trying to make the largest batch of Sun Tea Ever....the idea of living to 60 must have been in the realm of witchcraft.

    "You can be too young, and you'll die before you get too old to be a problem. I mean, we're a bunch of reasonable slave raping white people. Everyone elected will live up to the same standards and morals we have."

    2016 proved they were right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    I assume Alex Jones wasn't in NYC (I believe its Texas?) and Texas has different laws regarding payment.

    Also Jones declaring bankruptcy probably delays proceedings. Trump, for obvious ego reasons, isn't declaring bankruptcy.
    I don't think it's ego reasons he's declared bankruptcy before but with the election it would be too big of a hit to his brand while running for President. His entire I am very rich bit won't fly if he is bankrupt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    I assume Alex Jones wasn't in NYC (I believe its Texas?) and Texas has different laws regarding payment.

    Also Jones declaring bankruptcy probably delays proceedings. Trump, for obvious ego reasons, isn't declaring bankruptcy.
    They also (probably) are having to untangle the financial webs Alex created that allow him to declare he has no money yet can still maintain his lifestyle.
    Multiple times.
    I'm not sure if the states are in a pissing contest over who gets at the money, one trial was in Connecticut, but before that there was one in Texas.
    I'm sure Texas would be all "WE'RE FIRST YEE HAW! Now lil buckaroos, y'all take yer time, we gotta keep that money out of the hands of those false flag crisis actor atheist communist tree hugging socialist muslims who hate 'murica."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    I don't think it's ego reasons he's declared bankruptcy before but with the election it would be too big of a hit to his brand while running for President. His entire I am very rich bit won't fly if he is bankrupt.
    Not with the votes that matter, votes he doesn't have. His base is demonstrably insane enough to believe vaccines made the world flat, he could convince them he went bankrupt to save white orphans with his tears.

    By the way, Trump suggested he'd like Abbott for VP which I'm interpreting to mean Trump knows he's in trouble. Abbott's just a white guy from Texas. He adds nothing to the ticket. Unless you think you might lose Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Not with the votes that matter, votes he doesn't have. His base is demonstrably insane enough to believe vaccines made the world flat, he could convince them he went bankrupt to save white orphans with his tears.

    By the way, Trump suggested he'd like Abbott for VP which I'm interpreting to mean Trump knows he's in trouble. Abbott's just a white guy from Texas. He adds nothing to the ticket. Unless you think you might lose Texas.
    He probably wants Abbot because of the Texas border situation, illegal immigration always animates the base especially the racists. I doubt he is going to go through with it, if I were to bet I say he will pick a woman to blunt the abortion issue but it's Trump he may pick his daughter or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    He probably wants Abbot because of the Texas border situation, illegal immigration always animates the base especially the racists. I doubt he is going to go through with it, if I were to bet I say he will pick a woman to blunt the abortion issue but it's Trump he may pick his daughter or whatever.
    This is my guess too. He sees the border and related topic as his winning issue and that likely frames how he sees the world. So pick a VP that's a big name in that fight.

    Granted IIRC the long short of looking through VP picks throughout history is, "The VP rarely actually helps the ticket, but the VP can definitely hurt the ticket.". Either way I kinda hope he does his auditions like he did for cabinet heads. Just trot a "who's who" of simps who will be excited to be his VP pick so he can blame them for everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Very Tired View Post
    So how come Trump is actually being pressured to pay his court fine while Alex Jones is somehow able to ignore his and continue like it never happened?
    FYI, the Sandy Hook families voted not too long ago to start liquidating his assets. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankru...ankrupt-estate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Not with the votes that matter, votes he doesn't have. His base is demonstrably insane enough to believe vaccines made the world flat, he could convince them he went bankrupt to save white orphans with his tears.

    By the way, Trump suggested he'd like Abbott for VP which I'm interpreting to mean Trump knows he's in trouble. Abbott's just a white guy from Texas. He adds nothing to the ticket. Unless you think you might lose Texas.
    Don't put too much stock (any) in Trump's various VP proclamations. They're designed to distract from the coverage of his ongoing legal (and financial) woes, and remind everyone that he is a "serious candidate" (and not a criminal megalomaniac who ought to have been locked up long ago) and further his narrative that the primary is over and he needs to be treated as the "presumptive GOP nominee" (which he thinks will protect him from facing more consequences).
    "For the present this country is headed in directions which can only carry ruin to it and will create a situation here dangerous to world peace. With few exceptions, the men who are running this Government are of a mentality that you and I cannot understand. Some of them are psychopathic cases and would ordinarily be receiving treatment somewhere. Others are exalted and in a frame of mind that knows no reason."
    - U.S. Ambassador to Germany, George Messersmith, June 1933

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    Don't put too much stock (any) in Trump's various VP proclamations.
    Eh, that's fair.

    Related: Nikki Haley was asked point-blank if Trump would follow the Constitution if elected. She said she didn't know.

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    Do you ever notice they go after the people that want to find out where the cheating was? And by the way, 82% of the country understands that it was a rigged election. You can't have a country with that. A poll came out, 82 percent.
    -- Donald Trump, as quoted by the Washington Examiner amongst others

    A poll said eighty-two percent of the country? That would mandate a large proportion of Democrats agreed. I think Trump is having one of those moments, guys.

    "Surely he misread--"

    That's no better. If one of my students got a B+ on a test and I gave a B+ to everyone, I am a horrible teacher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    -- Donald Trump, as quoted by the Washington Examiner amongst others

    A poll said eighty-two percent of the country? That would mandate a large proportion of Democrats agreed. I think Trump is having one of those moments, guys.

    "Surely he misread--"

    That's no better. If one of my students got a B+ on a test and I gave a B+ to everyone, I am a horrible teacher.
    He's correct this time. The election was rigged. However cheating is no guarantee of success. It just means that you're also an incompetent cheater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Trump's shoes are already 75% off. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-con-shoe-price-drop/
    If anything, that's a huge win. Because they're retaining far more value than his NFT collections.

    - - - Updated - - -

    https://twitter.com/KateSullivanDC/s...91634570895777

    Very stable genius who brags about acing cognitive tests like 5 years ago keeps thinking that Obama is still president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    thinking that Obama is still president.
    Funny, usually when he gets that one wrong, he says it's himself who won.

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    Funny thing about the "there should be a age limit on politicians" situation.

    Y'all don't need to pass a law. Y'all just need to stop voting for septuagenarians.
    On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

    - H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Funny thing about the "there should be a age limit on politicians" situation.

    Y'all don't need to pass a law. Y'all just need to stop voting for septuagenarians.
    It's not necessarily a contradiction to believe in democracy while also acknowledging that groupthink can be dangerous, particularly when it comes to favoring incumbency.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    It's not necessarily a contradiction to believe in democracy while also acknowledging that groupthink can be dangerous, particularly when it comes to favoring incumbency.
    I didn't say anything about contradictions to democracy.

    Just saying you could stop voting for old people.

    The old people you continue to vote into office aren't going to pass any legislation that will force them to retire anyway.
    On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

    - H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    I didn't say anything about contradictions to democracy.

    Just saying you could stop voting for old people.

    The old people you continue to vote into office aren't going to pass any legislation that will force them to retire anyway.
    We absolutely could, but again... that doesn't obviate the benefits of having actual legal restrictions on age. It's one of those things where we as humans compensate for our psychological biases with a system - in this case, favoring authority figures we are familiar with even into their dotage. It's not that people are bad or stupid, it's that relying on people to act based on good will and sound judgement 100% of the time isn't really workable.

    I also think it's worthwhile mentioning that there are certain factors besides incumbency bias at play. One of the major ones which hasn't been mentioned is how expensive it's gotten to run for office - that sort of environment favors those who have established connections and/or wealth, and those tend to be older people for obvious reasons. Fixing American democracy involves a lot more than just a retirement age.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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