1. #17501
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.newsweek.com/king-trump-...s-stop-1361192

    A dozen GOP Senator introduced legislation to reign in the powers of the president to declare national emergencies! They're putting a limit on how long an emergency can last, 30 days, before Congressional approval is needed to extend it.

    Great job, Republicans!



    Oh, so this is just the legislation Pence begged them to pass. Righto then, Congressional Republicans largely remain the scum of the earth.

    Bonus points for a "both sides" argument, ignoring the fact that the only president that has ever tried to abuse national emergency declarations in our lifetimes is...well...Trump.
    The take seems to be that this is meant to bleed votes from the bill that the Senate is supposed to vote on by Friday, ensuring that it does not pass and so the GOP does not have to appear to be breaking with Trump.

    In other words, GOP doing shady shit to clutch desperately to their dwindling power, as per usual. See also: forcing through justice positions around the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    The take seems to be that this is meant to bleed votes from the bill
    I'm not sure how, this is a separate bill, not an amendment to the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I'm not sure how, this is a separate bill, not an amendment to the first.
    They can safely vote to support the emergency knowing a fail safe is coming in to protect them from the victim of the same authority in 2021, which is the main reason the GOP are hesitant about Trump pulling this. The existence of the new bill is enough to release the pressure.

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    In other news, Jacob Wohl back at it again. Only this time, he broke the law by filing false police reports, claiming he was receiving death threats from Twitter for "investigating" a claim that Rep. Omar was married to her brother.

    Only the death threats were made to himself. The dumb fuck made a Twitter alt and sent himself death threats that he turned into the police.
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    From my perspective it is an uncle who was is a "simple" slat of the earth person, who has religous beliefs I may or may not fully agree with, but who in the end of the day wants to go hope, kiss his wife, and kids, and enjoy their company.
    Connal defending child molestation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullettime View Post
    They can safely vote to support the emergency knowing a fail safe is coming in to protect them from the victim of the same authority in 2021, which is the main reason the GOP are hesitant about Trump pulling this. The existence of the new bill is enough to release the pressure.

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    In other news, Jacob Wohl back at it again. Only this time, he broke the law by filing false police reports, claiming he was receiving death threats from Twitter for "investigating" a claim that Rep. Omar was married to her brother.

    Only the death threats were made to himself. The dumb fuck made a Twitter alt and sent himself death threats that he turned into the police.
    Wohl broke the law on multiple occasions prior, but he's white and his parents have a modicum of money, so he's never been punished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I'm not sure how, this is a separate bill, not an amendment to the first.
    It means they can vote against the current bill and vote for this one giving Pence/Trump what they want and still making the statement that they are against "national security lol" declarations--after Trump gets his one. It's 100% purely to avoid publicly going against Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullettime View Post
    They can safely vote to support the emergency knowing a fail safe is coming in to protect them from the victim of the same authority in 2021, which is the main reason the GOP are hesitant about Trump pulling this. The existence of the new bill is enough to release the pressure.
    And this sums it up better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucks01 View Post
    Why is he not in jail yet?
    you'd think after all the pearl clutching over smolette, they would be fine with the cops nailing Wohl for that

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    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...cy-declaration

    RIP the GOP attempt to give Trump a pass on emergency declarations just this once and then limiting all subsequent declarations.

    “It’s my understanding the president won’t support it,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), a member of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-Ky.) leadership team, after meeting with colleagues at lunch to discuss the state of the talks.

    Lee announced Trump’s position after taking a call from the president during the lunch meeting, according to a person familiar with the conversation.

    Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) told reporters after Wednesday's meeting that it’s clear the disapproval resolution will pass.

    “'Dandy' Don Meredith used to sing a song at the end of the game when the result was obvious. It was called turn out the lights the party’s over. Well, that’s appropriate right now,” he said, referring to the former NFL quarterback.

    “It’s time to vote, everybody knows how they’re going to vote. I don’t think the president’s going to win this one.”
    Guess Trump didn't want to lose access to his ability to declare anything a national emergency for as long as he wanted. So despite the best attempts by Pence to figure out a deal, the "master dealmaker" yet again ends up with no deals at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullettime View Post
    They can safely vote to support the emergency knowing a fail safe is coming in to protect them from the victim of the same authority in 2021, which is the main reason the GOP are hesitant about Trump pulling this. The existence of the new bill is enough to release the pressure.

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    In other news, Jacob Wohl back at it again. Only this time, he broke the law by filing false police reports, claiming he was receiving death threats from Twitter for "investigating" a claim that Rep. Omar was married to her brother.

    Only the death threats were made to himself. The dumb fuck made a Twitter alt and sent himself death threats that he turned into the police.
    Did you go to the video the Daily Beast linked? They went to the police station with bulletproof vests on, to continue the charade. The comments are hilarious. Only 11 comments, 1 of them claiming that he and that idiot Laura Loomer are "activist journalists". They aren't journalists, they are morons. The other 10 are making fun of that comment or Wohl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    They went to the police station with bulletproof vests on, to continue the charade.
    Have some respect for the poor kids cosplay attempts : (

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    the Boeing 737 MAX.
    Trump grounds the plane, eventually joining the rest of the civilized world in doing so.

    Honestly, not his worst showing by far.

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    Trump doubles down that the Fake News Photoshopped pics of Melania, then claimed it wasn't her.

    Of course, he has no evidence. There was some discussion on The View, true, but
    (a) The View didn't take those pics, and
    (b) nobody edited them, and
    (c) it was a live video feed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Trump grounds the plane, eventually joining the rest of the civilized world in doing so.

    Honestly, not his worst showing by far.

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    Trump doubles down that the Fake News Photoshopped pics of Melania, then claimed it wasn't her.

    Of course, he has no evidence. There was some discussion on The View, true, but
    (a) The View didn't take those pics, and
    (b) nobody edited them, and
    (c) it was a live video feed.
    As much as I gave no credence to that fake Melania thing, the fact that Trump is now crying about means it might be true, the man can't stop projecting and giving it all away. I still think it's bunk, but only because I don't want to focus on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    the man can't stop projecting and giving it all away.
    I have a far simpler explanation.

    "You know, it doesn’t really matter what [the media] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass," -- Donald Trump

    In those pictures, Melania is...not. Now, by Trump's own words, that would attack him directly, because he doesn't have a young and beautiful piece of ass. We can't have that! So the only Trump-logical explanation is to claim those pictures are fake, and that Melania is still a young and beautiful piece of ass but the media is faking the pictures to attack Trump.

    By the way, just a reminder: Trump divorced Ivana in 1992. Ivana was 43 at the time.

    Trump divorced Maples in 1999. Maples was 35 at the time.

    Melania is 48. The clock is ticking.

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    Trump was due to meet with China later in March. China has now pushed the trip back to April or even later.

    Why? China saw Trump walk away from NK. Naturally, they don't want Xi to go to Mar-a-Lago and have Trump get bored, give up and go golfing. As such, Beijing and Washington are going through “line-by-line negotiations" to ensure that can't happen, before the next meeting is set up.

    Of course, Trump might ignore those rules and do it anyhow, meaning he wouldn't just leave with nothing, he'd leave with nothing after breaking the agreement. China would declare themselves the winner and have objective evidence to back that play.

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    Mitt Romney will vote against Trump's "national security lol".

    That's 52 confirmed so far. And Romney's kind of a big name.

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    It's actually a pretty good bill, were it not for the whole, just let Trump get away with it this time, aspect of it. That's obviously going to be a poison pill to the House. Take that part out and this shit will fly through Congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    In those pictures, Melania is...not. Now, by Trump's own words, that would attack him directly, because he doesn't have a young and beautiful piece of ass. We can't have that! So the only Trump-logical explanation is to claim those pictures are fake, and that Melania is still a young and beautiful piece of ass but the media is faking the pictures to attack Trump.

    By the way, just a reminder: Trump divorced Ivana in 1992. Ivana was 43 at the time.

    Trump divorced Maples in 1999. Maples was 35 at the time.

    Melania is 48. The clock is ticking.
    I doubt he's going to dump her for a new model any time soon, shit, if anything she's going to bounce out on him after this horror show of a Presidency. The man is mid 70s and been overweight nearly his entire adult life, I'd be shocked if Viagra still wakes his cock up at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrenheit View Post
    I'd be shocked if Viagra still wakes his cock up at this point.
    Well for Melania's sake lets hope this assertion is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrenheit View Post
    It's actually a pretty good bill, were it not for the whole, just let Trump get away with it this time, aspect of it. That's obviously going to be a poison pill to the House. Take that part out and this shit will fly through Congress.

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    I doubt he's going to dump her for a new model any time soon, shit, if anything she's going to bounce out on him after this horror show of a Presidency. The man is mid 70s and been overweight nearly his entire adult life, I'd be shocked if Viagra still wakes his cock up at this point.
    Dolan will get rid of her before she bails on him. Her meal ticket is killing itself, gotta get that last drop of covfefe.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

  16. #17516
    #BREAKING: Rep. Jerry Nadler says during today's closed-door meeting, former acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker "did not deny that the president called him to discuss the Michael Cohen case and personnel decisions in the Southern District" -- something he denied last month.
    https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1...751716867?s=19

    Uh-oh!
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    Trump, sobbing so hard his mascara runs, begs and pleads for the GOP not to rebuke his abuse of power.

    Specifically, he said anyone who votes against him is voting for Pelosi and Crime.

    He also cites "Prominent legal scholars" such as...uh...um...he didn't say.

    Related: Lamar Alexander clarifies earlier statements to say, yes, he's voting against Trump. 53 and counting.

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    Mike Lee's compromise proposal: Trump gets his border emergency, but after that we ensure the emergency power goes back to its appropriate short-term use. Trump's response: Thanks, but no thanks.

    https://t.co/fGDDV8Q2Tv
    https://twitter.com/EggerDC/status/1...426679808?s=19

    Haha, wait! So the Senator proposes that Trump gets to abuse the power this once and change it back so in the future another President can't abuse it (cough, Democrat President). Instead this idiot declines cause he basically wants to keep abusing the power.

    Yes, this was one proposal by a Senator that would have likely gone nowhere l, but still.
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    Summer Zervos’ defamation suit against Trump can go forward: appeals court
    https://nypost.com/2019/03/14/summer...appeals-court/

    Yet the panel’s decision cites the decades-old Paula Jones suit against Bill Clinton, noting that the US Supreme Court failed to conclude then that simply being president did not shield Clinton from civil litigation.

    “More than 20 years later, the current sitting President attempts to shield himself from consequences for his alleged unofficial misconduct by relying upon the constitutional protection of the Presidency,” the decision reads. “We reject defendant President Trump’s argument that the Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution prevents a New York Sate court – and every other state court in the country – from exercising its authority under its state constitution.”
    Just a reminder... Trump brought Paula Jones to the debates...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Summer Zervos’ defamation suit against Trump can go forward
    Yet another "hold my beer" moment for the John. Hey, did he cheat on his wife with a porn star, and pay her off, before or after the election? Before, you say? That's neat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    the Boeing 737 MAX
    The Secretary of Defense was called --

    "He doesn't exist."

    -- the acting Secretary of Defense was called before the Senate to talk about the Boeing 737 MAX, which he personally oversaw while still working at Boeing. Naturally, his testimony was mostly "no, I don't know anything about the crashes" and "no, I didn't tell anyone to sit on the evidence or block an investigation". Due to the situation and his employment, it's highly likely he's telling the truth -- and Boeing just took another loss despite having an exec about as high in govt as you can get.

    He was also forced to echo what his associate told the House yesteday: cost plus 50% is not going to happen, because it's a stupid fucking idea.

    “We’re not going to run a business and we’re not going to run a charity,” he told lawmakers.

    “The important part is that people pay their fair share and payment comes in lots of different forms. [It] could be contributions, like in Afghanistan. But at the end of the day, people need to carry their fair share and not everyone can contribute, but it is not about the cost plus 50 percent.”
    He then fled before being asked about Trump's moon schedule which appears to be impossible, or require extra privatization.

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