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  1. #21
    Hah, so glad I don't live in USA. The only country where you would second guess getting treatment or just die because the bill would suck out all of your life if you survive, and I guess the family have to pay up if you die after the treatment. Lovely system you got.
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    The 10% reward. It's was unspoken rule that you DONT attack other faction so everyone could enjoy the 10% reward. But now no one cares about that anymore

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    $13k for my kidney stone treatment (CT scan, 2 bags of saline, 1 shot of morphine, and a few hours total in the ER between waiting in line and laying in bed), so yeah I can see an actual surgery going for almost $18k. Probably got off cheap, really.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    This is America. We always have warm dead bodies.
    if we had confidence that the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    I had a really bad ear infection a while back. It cost me about 45€ with all the checkups (yes plural) and medicine combined. Unicersal healthcare is a scam right?
    If ever I needed to have care that would bankrupt me, I'd move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    If ever I needed to have care that would bankrupt me, I'd move.
    Would be a bit too late if it was serious enough that you wasn't in a condition to move.

  5. #25
    Wheee...
    Another thinly veiled America bashing thread.

    At any rate, hospitals are way too much of business here. It really is a shame.
    Much like immigration reform, healthcare reform has taken a backseat to political partisan and personal gain. They really don’t care about the “little people”.

    Peace
    Last edited by Allybeboba; 2018-02-20 at 06:17 PM.

  6. #26
    $17 for a drug test ain't bad, I'd say she got a deal since they're usually $20.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by crewskater View Post
    $17 for a drug test ain't bad, I'd say she got a deal since they're usually $20.
    you're off by a few thousand.

    $17,000 is how much it cost.

  8. #28
    It's just a business trying to make money.
    The wise wolf who's pride is her wisdom isn't so sharp as drunk.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Vanyali View Post
    you're off by a few thousand.

    $17,000 is how much it cost.
    He is picking on the weird foreigner who uses number punctuation differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kail View Post
    It's just a business trying to make money.
    I know right!! I think it's rude she didn't also give them a tip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allybeboba View Post
    Wheee...
    Another thinly veiled America bashing thread.

    At any rate, hospitals are way too much of business here. It really is a shame.
    Much like immigration reform, healthcare reform has taken a backseat to political partisan and personal gain. They really don’t care about the “little people”.

    Peace
    criticising American healthcare bills isn't nation bashing mate, come the fuck on now.

  11. #31
    Saw the thread title and was wondering why people were complaining about an $18 urine test until i clicked the article.
    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    We have had multiple threads of white people complaining that black people were offended over some racist thing some white person said.
    Here we have a thread of white people offended over something some racist black person said.
    The key difference is that the white people in this thread aren't being told "shut up stop being offended get over it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feederino Senpai View Post
    Hah, so glad I don't live in USA. The only country where you would second guess getting treatment or just die because the bill would suck out all of your life if you survive, and I guess the family have to pay up if you die after the treatment. Lovely system you got.
    Best doctors in the world are expensive.
    Last edited by Realtalk; 2018-02-20 at 07:37 PM.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffyman View Post
    Who is defending rip off medics and a broken insurance system?
    People like my parents? "Socialism has NEVER WORKED Brian!" God how many times I hear that in a year, they then hand wave that UIB, Medicare/Cade, food stamps, all programs they actually support, by in large, as being socialist in nature.

    They agree the system is fooked, but only because AcA fooked it....
    READ and be less Ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krigaren View Post
    Imagine how much time and money would be saved by people, employers, etc if we had a single-payer system where people wouldn't have to worry about who's in-network or not, what the insurance will cover and won't, co-pays, deductibles, all that.

    I'd gladly pay 1% more in my taxes in order to not have to deal with the BS of whether or not a doctor's visit - with insurance - will end up costing me hundreds of dollars, as has been the case with my most recent forays into medicine.
    It doesn't even have to be single payer - force the insurer to pay whatever provider used regardless of 'networks'.
    The US healthcare system is just garbage as is, having little to do with the private nature of it all, and everyone thing to do with the garbage system politicians put in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    I had a really bad ear infection a while back. It cost me about 45€ with all the checkups (yes plural) and medicine combined. Unicersal healthcare is a scam right?
    $25 here 9 for the pills.

    THe problem for most people is they have shitty insurance because they get the cheap shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HavokHeart View Post
    I had my gallbladder removed a couple years back. A few weeks later I got a copy the bill (thankfully paid by insurance) for 87,000$.
    The medical system in the US is cooked af.
    You effectively pay for people who don't pay their bills, add in a large bit of rentier parasites, unnecessary bureaucracy, coupled with the fact that the vast majority of Americans get their healthcare from their employer (making it so the customers opinions doesn't matter, thereby negating a central part of a functioning market) and a series of vertical 'integrations' (monopolies in practice) coupled with an aversion to regulation, and then you have the US healthcare system.
    The US would in actual practice probably be better of scrapping everything and copy pasting the system used for pet insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    I had a really bad ear infection a while back. It cost me about 45€ with all the checkups (yes plural) and medicine combined. Unicersal healthcare is a scam right?

    It's a Ponzi scheme Totally - I mean what do you think 'only' costing 7-8% of GDP, It costs 15% in the US!
    The Illuminati they are bankrolling it to keep Europeans docile as they 'something delusional'

  17. #37
    87k? I don't get it... with that kind of money you can fly first class to anywhere in the world and have a surgery, a honeymoon, a shopping spree, and still have some money left. Why use the american system at all?

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Linadra View Post
    You still have your choice to make. Call me when ready.
    Literally every thread I see you comment in is just you bashing trump.. good lord you must be bored.

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    Yeah but we have to vote for republicans because SJWS SJWS SJWS IF YOU SAY ANYTHING PRO DEMOCRACY OR PRO in favor of humanity as a whole YOUR AN SJW OH MY GOD UR IN FAVOR OF PEOPLE LIVING OUTSIDE ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE DEFINED BY a skin tone! SJW!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Realtalk View Post
    Best doctors in the world are expensive.
    Yeah. Good thing the best doctors in the world aren't in America and in most countries covered by universal healthcare.

    America, for all intents and purposes, has a pretty shitty healthcare system. Thanks mostly to overbilling by hospitals, absurd malpractice insurance rates and (drum roll please) corrupt pharmaceutical companies. And if you think they aren't corrupt with all the news the last year over the epi-pen and what not, you have your head in the sand.

    America is the ONLY place that will charge exorbitant amounts to a patient for advil, or $800 a day for a CPAP in their room. A CPAP MACHINE. They cost roughly $400 to $800 to buy one outright. The costs that hospitals charge is insane.

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