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    Quote Originally Posted by HeiAggra View Post
    OMG that is what i call being selective reader hahaha
    Face it High Elves and Blood Elves are the same.
    Ofc they're the same since they are the same race.

    What's your point ?

    A high elf is a blue-eyed, Alliance elf. A blood elf is a fel tainted, Horde elf.


    Quote Originally Posted by HeiAggra View Post
    as far as Void Elves go, yes they are Belfs that were messing with the Void.
    From this logic blood elves are just Night elves that were messing too far with arcane magic.
    "If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeiAggra View Post
    Read also the link from the armory.
    I'm sorry, you seem to have put the wrong link in your post. Those are blood elves, not high elves. All it says about high elves is their ancestry. It even says, there, how they rebranded themselves, splintering off the remaining few high elves.

    If "ancestry" is all that counts, then nightborne are night elves. What baiters like you fail to realize-- actually, no. You know too well, just willfully ignore-- is that when we're talking about high elves, we're not talking about the ones that renamed themselves "blood elves".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    I am glad you admit that Alleria arrived at her Void Elf status through different, unrelated means, as many pro High Elfers who seek the aesthetics have sought to portray Alleria as the template upon which they wish other Void Elves would follow, i.e. a toggle between a Void Elf form and an apparently normal Blood/High Elf form. This admits that Alleria's unique capabilities in this regard are a consequence of her unique transformation and that it cannot be used as a template for future Void Elves.
    Those two aren't mutually exclusive, y'know? You're the one that says void elves can 'convert' other elves into void elves, so I'd assume they found a way to (relatively) safely convert other elves, instead of having they undergo the exact same chaotic process Umbric's original group went through. A more controlled process could be used to diminish the physical effects of the conversion.

    Leaving that aside, Alleria cannot be so neatly divorced from the rest of the Void Elves as Teron Gorefiend can be divorced from modern Death Knights. While there is a parallel in that Gorefiend type Death Knights are entirely separate from Scourge Death Knights, there similarities end. Gorefiend never had any interaction with the Death Knights of the Scourge after all, Alleria is the Void Elf racial leader and mentor.
    She can, actually. Because she's not the cause for the creation of the void elves. She may be more linked to the void elves than Teron is to the death knights, but still she was not the one who made the blood elves into void elves or anything.

    It is appropriate to regard the Void Elf storyline as having it's genesis with Alleria. In fact the polygon interview with Moorgard on Allied races, the one that affirmed that Void Elves can convert other Elves, stated that as a fact 'With Alleria Windrunner’s story being an internal success on Argus, the team saw it as the opportunity for a new twist on elves'.
    This paragraph implies that your quote from Moorgard is what implies that void elves can convert others. If that's your intention, I'm sorry to say that, no, that quote doesn't mean that.

    As such, there was Void Elf participation in Legion even if it was a singular Void Elf, the first Void Elf.
    Sorry, man. But there wasn't. Alleria doesn't count. She wouldn't even consider herself a 'void elf' until after she rescued Umbric and his group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeiAggra View Post
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    This is a big load of bullshit.

    Or you don't understand what's being discussed or you deliberately put context apart. Seriously, you are not discovering to anyone that Blood elves are High elves.

    Is not my problem that certain people have such fragile egos that they think their Blood elves will loose their 'snowflakery' so they feel threatened by it.

    When you all damn know that High elves are Alliance, you goddamn know it. And that's what's being requested, for an Alliance member to become playable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    The real reason of course is that Blizzard gives Alliance High Elf npcs unique blue eyed skins when creating an Alliance High Elf npc and doesn't seem to be too bothered about popping in the odd golden eyed one, particularly as in game only Blood Elf Paladins have those eyes consistently and Alliance High Elf npcs tend to be Mages or Hunters.
    We can see from Hearthstone that in their newest expansion since Blood Elves getting Golden Eyes, various Blood Elf NPCs/characters have been updated to Golden Eyes. Just Blood Elves, not any of the High Elves.





    As you can see, these are neither priests nor paladins. It's the Dalaran flightmaster as well as some random Blood Elf Ranger.

    Hearthstone follows the broad strokes of WoW lore, while it may implement its own neat things like Vereesa with Thoridal and a Gnome Paladin. It still keeps consistent
    more often than not.

    Clearly they had to go-ahead here to give those characters Golden Eyes, as the other things they implemented. Meaning you're partly right that it's due to Blizzard not being bothered to update certain characters, but it's interesting to note again that even here in Hearthstone it is only the Blood Elves who are manifesting those Golden Eyes.

    So across all Warcraft-related media, my point still stands: We have yet to see a High Elf manifest these Golden Eyes. Until there is an example, then my presumption is correct - High Elves won't be getting Golden Eyes because they're not the same as Blood Elves.
    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    But to presume that Alliance High Elves cannot have golden eyes is not headcanon.
    I know it's not headcanon thanks! Jk you probably meant to write "can have golden eyes is not headcanon".
    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    As for 'leaving out the arcane' part when discussing the Sunwell, the fact it is mentioned in online sources and chronicles is enough. If someone says the water was cold, does the water stop being wet because they neglected to mention that quality? The Sunwell does have an Arcane component within it, and we shall see what Blizzard does with that fact should they ever offer an advanced eye colour customization to all races, something Ion was pretty open about that they were considering as one of the easier customization choices to offer.
    You are one such that likes to use developer statements as a form of reiteration of past comments, therefore I'm just doing the same. Developer commentary has only ever spoken about the Sunwell being Light-based and its importance to the Blood Elves. If the importance of the arcane bit of the Sunwell can't even be mentioned then it must not have a big part to play, just as others tout how 4 NPCs of High Elves isn't representation of much importance at all, or how others tout "devs continually state that High Elves cannot work".

    Well then, the developers also continually state the Light of the Sunwell when discussing it, even Liadrin comments on its Light based nature as recently as the end of Legion (I think in Nightborne recruitment scenario). That must mean the arcane portion isn't important if it can't get a mention, just as how High Elf representation isn't brought up or "shown enough" or "just being there doesn't equal importance" to some peeps arguments.

    Arcane might be in the Sunwell, but we have yet to see any proof of 1) its importance and 2) how much arcane is in the Sunwell. We see Fel cleansed by the Light, we have not seen Arcane cleanse Fel nor Light. No developer nor in-game commentary supports this.

    Mention of eye color customization doesn't mean much until we see how it's implemented. Do you fore Night Elves getting extra eye colors aside from the Gold and Silver? What about races with only one eye color like Draenei? We have to see what Blizzard implements in it before commenting with presumptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
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    Can you please stop placing bait?

    You have ignored so much context, so much information and faulted to the respect of others with that much dishonesty that at this point this is just low quality bait.

    At the end of the day you can only resort to mental gymnastics and appeal to authority. Oh, and for some reason, repeating like a broken record that Blood elves are High elves and implying that others are dismissing it.


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    Also, for people out of the fence...

    Of course what's being said when Void elves are Blood elves is not that they are similar in everything. Don't account this individual for it's dishonesty, he does it a lot.

    What's being said is that they come from Blood elves, there is not even a trace about them of their origins being High elven (the name of the group not the name of the race). You know, those who were with the Alliance all this time. Their only High elven traits are their body shape and their past. It doesn't even have the basics and it's a completely different thing.

    Just revise the Ren'dorei lore (it's a short read), it's there for everyone to read and compare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Those two aren't mutually exclusive, y'know? You're the one that says void elves can 'convert' other elves into void elves, so I'd assume they found a way to (relatively) safely convert other elves, instead of having they undergo the exact same chaotic process Umbric's original group went through. A more controlled process could be used to diminish the physical effects of the conversion.
    Given Elves have been converted since the initial scenario and there has been no sign any has come out less 'voidy', it looks safe to assume the physical consequences are the price to pay for wielding the power. And the process is probably as safe as can be, given that the Void Elf state is the goal. Initially the end result was an ethereal like being and the Void Elf the result of stopping that process prematurely.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    She can, actually. Because she's not the cause for the creation of the void elves. She may be more linked to the void elves than Teron is to the death knights, but still she was not the one who made the blood elves into void elves or anything.
    Her interference in the ritual directly led to the creation of the Void Elves, as otherwise they would have been turned into Ethereals.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    This paragraph implies that your quote from Moorgard is what implies that void elves can convert others. If that's your intention, I'm sorry to say that, no, that quote doesn't mean that.
    No, the quote is from the same article. The implication of THIS particular quote is that the developers viewed Alleria's arc in 7.3 as the genesis of the Void Elf storyline.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Sorry, man. But there wasn't. Alleria doesn't count. She wouldn't even consider herself a 'void elf' until after she rescued Umbric and his group.
    Alleria absolutely counts, as she is a Void Elf now she was a Void Elf from the moment of her first transformation. The same transformation ability recorded in wow data files as 'Void Elf transformation'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlubberPuddy View Post
    snip.
    Your presumption is fundamentally flawed.

    Blood Elves and Alliance High Elves are biologically identical which every aspect of their story communicates to us.

    Blood Elves and Alliance High Elves are both addicted to magic.

    Blood Elves and Alliance High Elves both feed on the Sunwell to sate their addiction, as proven by In the Shadow of the Sun.

    The Sunwell is an Arcane/Holy source of energy.

    Blood Elven golden eyes are a manifestation of that same holy energy from the Sunwell.

    Therefore, Alliance High Elves should also be able to manifest golden eyes.

    In this case, you are trying to prove a negative using this hearthstone art. That because some Blood Elves have golden eyes in the art, and because the Alliance High Elves have blue eyes, then Alliance High Elves cannot have golden eyes despite the fact that objectively they should be able to.

    I checked the hearthstone wiki which conveniently lists the high elf cards on a single page

    https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/High_elf_art

    There are three cards. Then out of curiosity I checked the Blood Elf page.

    https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Blood_elf_art

    There are somewhat more than three. At least they have the proportion right.

    All these cards come from the latest expansion, Rise of Shadows. And then I checked the expansion theme, a raid on Dalaran. So once again, Alliance High Elves (and Veressa) only show up in the context of Dalaran

    I have to admit the more I dig the more I agree with you that hearthstone is certainly indicative of things in the actual canon, but the lack of golden eyes on Alliance High Elves is not one of them. For I maintain that Alliance High Elves have as much potential to manifest golden eyes as Blood Elves do, but three Alliance High Elves...one of whom is a Mage, one of whom is casting Arcane shot and one of whom is a civilian is not the evidence that disproves that they cannot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlubberPuddy View Post
    I know it's not headcanon thanks! Jk you probably meant to write "can have golden eyes is not headcanon".

    That was indeed a typo.


    Quote Originally Posted by FlubberPuddy View Post
    You are one such that likes to use developer statements as a form of reiteration of past comments, therefore I'm just doing the same. Developer commentary has only ever spoken about the Sunwell being Light-based and its importance to the Blood Elves. If the importance of the arcane bit of the Sunwell can't even be mentioned then it must not have a big part to play, just as others tout how 4 NPCs of High Elves isn't representation of much importance at all, or how others tout "devs continually state that High Elves cannot work".

    Well then, the developers also continually state the Light of the Sunwell when discussing it, even Liadrin comments on its Light based nature as recently as the end of Legion (I think in Nightborne recruitment scenario). That must mean the arcane portion isn't important if it can't get a mention, just as how High Elf representation isn't brought up or "shown enough" or "just being there doesn't equal importance" to some peeps arguments.

    Arcane might be in the Sunwell, but we have yet to see any proof of 1) its importance and 2) how much arcane is in the Sunwell. We see Fel cleansed by the Light, we have not seen Arcane cleanse Fel nor Light. No developer nor in-game commentary supports this.

    Mention of eye color customization doesn't mean much until we see how it's implemented. Do you fore Night Elves getting extra eye colors aside from the Gold and Silver? What about races with only one eye color like Draenei? We have to see what Blizzard implements in it before commenting with presumptions.
    Yet here, you are attempting to use absence of comment as proof. The developers who have said the Sunwell is light based, are they wrong? And I believe they have made those comments in the context of explaining why Blood Elves (and likely all uncorrupted thalassians) can manifest golden eyes. It strikes me that they they weren't overcomplicating their answers. They said the Sunwell is light based, which is true, and this has resulted in some Blood Elves getting golden eyes, which is also true.

    Yet chronicles states the Sunwell is Arcane and Holy, something which is common sense as the heart of a Naaru was added to the corrupted arcane energy of the pool to purify it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo Hawk View Post
    Can you please stop placing bait?

    You have ignored so much context, so much information and faulted to the respect of others with that much dishonesty that at this point this is just low quality bait.

    At the end of the day you can only resort to mental gymnastics and appeal to authority. Oh, and for some reason, repeating like a broken record that Blood elves are High elves and implying that others are dismissing it..

    The only information that matters is that Blood Elves are High Elves, that High Elves are playable, that faction diversity is a prized asset for Blizzard and that Void Elves are a variant for the Alliance. So yes, at 'the end of the day' that is all I can resort to but it's also all I have ever needed. As your community has nothing equivalent, not lore, not developer commentary, nothing...all that can be done is to attack the ample evidence available to the other side.

    'Bait' in other words are the unassailable facts, that only Blizzard themselves can alter, and on which they have showed no inclination of accommodating you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riversong View Post
    I honestly couldn't care less if the Alliance get High Elves anymore, I've gotten past it and honestly the only reason I quoted him was because quite literally the Void elves came from a roster of Blood elves NOT the current High elf roster.
    The Polygon interview essentially confirmed that the Void Elves can convert other Elves as Moorgard was asked point blank where Void Elf numbers are coming from, which I believe was one of the points made as to why Void Elves apparently didn't make sense.

    This means that while the initial batch of Void Elves were indeed Blood Elves, there is absolutely no reason why Alliance High Elves are also not able to undergo the process and become Void Elves.

    Indeed, several of the elves in Tel'rogus learning the powers of the Void are 'High Elven Wayfarers' and as such, Alliance High Elf is a viable origin for any Void Elf players who wishes to view it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    The only information that matters is that Blood Elves are High Elves, that High Elves are playable, that faction diversity is a prized asset for Blizzard and that Void Elves are a variant for the Alliance. So yes, at 'the end of the day' that is all I can resort to but it's also all I have ever needed. As your community has nothing equivalent, not lore, not developer commentary, nothing...all that can be done is to attack the ample evidence available to the other side.
    Well said. For someone to call your opinion "bait" says quite a bit about their ability to rationalize the truth. I'm not sure how much simpler it could be said.

    Besides, I think you'd have to be downright crazy to think there's going to be another Elven race coming. I mean, c'mon.

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    High Elves are Blood Elves. The fact they adopted a new name and a few select stragglers decided not to integrate with them doesn't change that fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    Given Elves have been converted since the initial scenario and there has been no sign any has come out less 'voidy', it looks safe to assume the physical consequences are the price to pay for wielding the power. And the process is probably as safe as can be, given that the Void Elf state is the goal. Initially the end result was an ethereal like being and the Void Elf the result of stopping that process prematurely.
    I'd actually instead assume that no safe process has been found yet, considering the only in-game mention of a process to convert more elves into void elves is still being researched, and that the current void elves are simply part of Umbric's original group.

    Her interference in the ritual directly led to the creation of the Void Elves, as otherwise they would have been turned into Ethereals.
    The point is that she did not create the void elves. She stopped the Ethereal ritual, yes, but her intention was not to make them into void elves. Not to mention others could have done the same. For example, Aethas or Khad'gar could do something similar, provided they had access to Umbric's research notes, which we did, considering those were the clues that led us to Umbric's group.

    No, the quote is from the same article. The implication of THIS particular quote is that the developers viewed Alleria's arc in 7.3 as the genesis of the Void Elf storyline.
    Then wouldn't Teron's story be the genesis of the death knight storyline, then? He was the first.

    Alleria absolutely counts, as she is a Void Elf now she was a Void Elf from the moment of her first transformation. The same transformation ability recorded in wow data files as 'Void Elf transformation'.
    It doesn't count because Alleria's lore is not void elf lore. Void elves did not exist until after the Legion was defeated. It's not like Alleria returned to Azeroth, to Silvermoon, and said: "Behold! I bring you all, my elves, the powers of the void! Power without limits at your command! Serve me, and I shall bestow this gift upon you!" or anything of the sort.

    Her origins are completely separate and unrelated to the void elves' origins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Goat View Post
    Well said. For someone to call your opinion "bait" says quite a bit about their ability to rationalize the truth. I'm not sure how much simpler it could be said.

    Besides, I think you'd have to be downright crazy to think there's going to be another Elven race coming. I mean, c'mon.
    It's a curious term, bait, but I believe it goes hand in hand with a continuous attempt on this matter to delegitimize all evidence that goes against what they wish.

    It ranges from continually questioning the smaller aspects, such as disputing the polygon interview with Moorgard confirming Void Elves can recruit other Elves to flat out attacking Ion Hazzikostas for uttering the words that now define this debate, that Blood Elves are High Elves.

    As for being downright crazy to think there is another Elven race incoming, that is not crazy nor is it at issue, although there could be concerns at another Elven race simply due to the sheer number of Elves then on offer. The objection to Alliance High Elves is not because they would be another race of Elves but because they would be the same race of Elves as an already existing option, except available to the other side.

    I would have no problem with another race of Alliance Elves so long as they weren't high elves. Some for example have suggested Half Elves for the Alliance, something very similar to a Blood/High Elf in terms of lore and aesthetic but with crucial differences that would not raise any objections from my side of the debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    The only information that matters is that Blood Elves are High Elves, that High Elves are playable, that faction diversity is a prized asset for Blizzard and that Void Elves are a variant for the Alliance. So yes, at 'the end of the day' that is all I can resort to but it's also all I have ever needed. As your community has nothing equivalent, not lore, not developer commentary, nothing...all that can be done is to attack the ample evidence available to the other side.
    You still fail to acknowledge that High elves are not playable. That denotes a great amount of cynical behavior from your part. Sorry, repeating that will not make it true.

    Also your mention of 'faction diversity' has been demonstrably flawed since all you have held onto for that is vague dev commentary and a haggard conspiration about neutral races not being released since MoP.

    You also fail to acknowledge the many times High elves were presented through lore and game as Alliance members. Even trying to find a way to imply they are not even Alliance... When someone deny reality in front of his nose there's something that is very wrong.

    And also taking into account that the developer commentary you have presented came as decontextualized or flawed one cannot take it seriously.

    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    'Bait' in other words are the unassailable facts, that only Blizzard themselves can alter, and on which they have showed no inclination of accommodating you.
    Bait is placing dishonest and not-leading-to-anywhere comments to try to trigger another cyclical discussion about unimportant small pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    It's a curious term, bait, but I believe it goes hand in hand with a continuous attempt on this matter to delegitimize all evidence that goes against what they wish.

    It ranges from continually questioning the smaller aspects, such as disputing the polygon interview with Moorgard confirming Void Elves can recruit other Elves to flat out attacking Ion Hazzikostas for uttering the words that now define this debate, that Blood Elves are High Elves.

    As for being downright crazy to think there is another Elven race incoming, that is not crazy nor is it at issue, although there could be concerns at another Elven race simply due to the sheer number of Elves then on offer. The objection to Alliance High Elves is not because they would be another race of Elves but because they would be the same race of Elves as an already existing option, except available to the other side.

    I would have no problem with another race of Alliance Elves so long as they weren't high elves. Some for example have suggested Half Elves for the Alliance, something very similar to a Blood/High Elf in terms of lore and aesthetic but with crucial differences that would not raise any objections from my side of the debate.
    Well, I think you're crazy if you think Blizzard will implement another race of Elves. We're over-saturated with them as is.

    I'm well aware what the objection and issue at hand is regarding High Elves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Goat View Post
    Well said. For someone to call your opinion "bait" says quite a bit about their ability to rationalize the truth. I'm not sure how much simpler it could be said.

    Besides, I think you'd have to be downright crazy to think there's going to be another Elven race coming. I mean, c'mon.
    Do you have something to add except saying i am unable to rationalize truth or being downright crazy?

    Of course not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo Hawk View Post
    You also fail to acknowledge the many times High elves were presented through lore and game as Alliance members. Even trying to find a way to imply they are not even Alliance... When someone deny reality in front of his nose there's something that is very wrong.
    I mean, you're denying the reality that IS real. I guess that means something is very wrong with you? Blood Elves are, in fact, High Elves. 99% of them aren't Alliance anymore, he's not wrong. They abandoned the Alliance faction and renamed themselves. It's really not more complicated than that, even if 1% of them remained Alliance. Since you brought up lore and what not. The lore is the reality you're denying.

    You're the pot calling the kettle black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo Hawk View Post
    Do you have something to add except saying i am unable to rationalize truth or being downright crazy?

    Of course not
    I wasn't talking to you. Why are you so arrogant about this topic?

    Besides, you clearly aren't able to rationalize the truth as evidenced by both your need for arrogance about a fictional race in the nerdiest video game of all time and your replies to people. You seem very, very salty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo Hawk View Post
    And also taking into account that the developer commentary you have presented came as decontextualized or flawed one cannot take it seriously.
    Just because a developer didn't say what you wanted him to say, doesn't mean he didn't say it at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoiseTank13 View Post
    High Elves are Blood Elves.
    Flipping it is even wronger...

    What is your motivation? You are not even stating something that can be pointed as anything but clueless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo Hawk View Post
    What is your motivation?
    Logical contradiction to fantastical whimsy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramlen View Post
    Just because a developer didn't say what you wanted him to say, doesn't mean he didn't say it at all.
    This is a flat out lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramlen View Post
    Logical contradiction to fantastical whimsy.
    What are you doing? I was not even talking nor referring to you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo Hawk View Post
    This is a flat out lie.
    Only if you are a narcissist who believes your opinion is the end of any and all opinion put forward by others. I could never look at categorical evidence to the contrary of what I believe to be true, and say to myself 'well that's not what I think, so clearly it's wrong'.


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    What are you doing? I was not even talking nor referring to you...

    Responding to a 560+ page thread concerning whimsical wanting of the fourth playable elf race in World of Warcraft and the refusal to acknowledge evidence to the contrary of their use in the game in that context by game developers.

    Is that a problem?
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