Why Dark Ranger will be the next class added to World of Warcraft.

[Cosmic Janitor]

Bleh,why would you want another hunter with the shadow priests form and every 3rd character you encounter named "SYLVANNUX" or "SLYVANNAS" or other "Lillidan" or "Dkarthas" shit.Yes,it's damn possible,considering the fact how sceptic were the people about the DH and taking locks abilities only to create him. Yet,if there will be a dark ranger or even the third,ranged spec for the DH,how will they differ from the usual hunter?Cause they look emo and got no pet?Cause they are firing SHAAAAAADOW arrows and have red,glowing eyes?

If they didn't have the atrocious looking hunter tier sets but other ones, then that would be a win for everyone. If we have tier sets again at that point..

[Splenda]

I would definitely try it- it sounds fun. But I also kind of want a spell-plate class.

[Cosmic Janitor]

Easily the weakest hero addition they aren't even trying anymore, DK was superior to both new classes in every way.

And I agree with the edgelord shit.. but just want a fun new class without a naruto running animation.

And the DK was gutted over the years to the point where nothing of the original things that made it special remained. Expecting blizzard to implement classes with as much creative depth as the DK back then is not going to happen today. Everything needs to be stream-lined, fun is only allowed if it fits a very basic framework or if your class is managed by the one dev that actually thinks deviating from the pattern is good idea.

[Alanar]

Its funny that you think its fanfiction and at the same time we are talking about a classic Warcraft 2 High Elf hero who.. suddenly embraces a new type of dark magic that she never would be associated with before Legion.

I'm just saying, if they kill her off and res her, then she can be a Dark Ranger. No different than any if the possibilities like Jaina or Sylvanas becoming future Lich King or Thrall becoming an Aspect of the Earth. It doesnt mean we all want it to happen, rather it it just a possibilty and you cant say it wont happen.

As for no hints... Did you even READ the Windrunner comic that just came out?

"I will never betray my sisters..." (the possible lie)

"In the end, they will all serve me"

No hints. Yeah.

I did read, look I know there is this thing people talk about.. making all 3 sisters represent 1 spec blabla. It's all fine, but not everyone looks at it that way. I don't believe ''those'' are hints realy, but thats all up to you what you believe.

Buttom line is I just don't think vereesa or alleria should represent a dark ranger.

[Rhaxus]

i don't care what we get as long as it uses mail, has the combination of tank and ranged spec and maybe uses bows. be it tinker or dark ranger or cleric or whatever

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Dark Ranger can fill as a Bard. Instead of songs, it's a banshee's wail. Instead of support magic, it's anti-magic and debuffs. And if they really want the buffs, something can be worked out with one of the specs.

that would be amazing, too

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Let me first state, that I see your points and think they are mostly viable. I just wanted to point out, that they are (like my points) very subjective. I personally would see a Dark Ranger as a 4th spec or a hero class for forsaken (if Blizz would give mostly every race a personal hero class: Shadow hunter for trolls, Warden for Night Elves etc) The only thing that stops a Dark Ranger to be implemented into WoW is Blizzard. IF they want it, they will bring them into the game. Same goes for Blademasters or other classes.
I took your points and rewrote them with my point of view for the Blademaster.

- Story. We have a known Blademaster, who still has not appeared in World of Warcraft, allthough he is not forgotten by Blizzard. We see Samuro (who would have been the first class in HotS, but it did not work out) in HotS.
- Lantresor is mentioned again in the Mag'har scenario, another character who is not forgotten. And I hope in the Barrens War Front (if that will happen) we see Mankrik as a major character/commander. With Lantresor we have this faction crossing, he is a halfbreed, so he could train alliance Blademaster.
- Also a character on Vindicaar teases Draenei Blademasters, Mag'har intro shows Blademasters.
- amor classes will be less important with personal loot, Blademaster still could wear mail, but unlikely because unfitting(?)
- Blademaster is arguably the most iconic remaining hero class from WC3 after Demon Hunter.
- We see Blademaster abilities added to Warriors, Monks and Rogues. Even talents get named after abilities, rogue even has a "Blademaster" talent.
- I could see the Draenei Blademaster to be a hint for a possible Blademaster on the Alliance side to be able to bring a Blademaster Hero Class to the game.
- it would be a honorable, direct and true hero, who would not use some dark stuff to power himself, because Blademasters would (could) have sworn to never touch demon blood again and fight them whereever they can.
- The absense of Samuro gives Blizz a wide variety of possible ways to introduce this Hero Class.

Again, if Blizzard wants it in the game, they will put it into the game. I really hope we will see a lot more Hero Classes in the future, but i also hope for some stuff that will be a 4th spec. Though I think the Dark Ranger would be refreshing the range ranks, and has a lot more to tell story wise than we actually see, I think Blademaster should be added first, because he was there first. (lame arguement, I just want Blademasters, thats it.)

no more melee specs/ classes

[Thimagryn]

I did read, look I know there is this thing people talk about.. making all 3 sisters represent 1 spec blabla. It's all fine, but not everyone looks at it that way. I don't believe ''those'' are hints realy, but thats all up to you what you believe.

Buttom line is I just don't think vereesa or alleria should represent a dark ranger.

My point is that there is evidence for a possible lead up to Allerias death. Do I believe it will happen? No I dont. But 2 yrs down the line if it does, we cant say there were no hints. The hints are there, but we can choose to believe or not. Even a red herring is a hint, just a misleading one. We have the evidence to draw a possible conclusion, and that is my only point.

Im not here to discuss what should or should not,happen. I am fine with you not wanting Dark Rangers or Windrunner representatives. I dont agree with you brushing off anything you dont believe as if it doesnt exist. At least recognize it is there if you want to have a discussion, otherwise all you are doing is basing your opinions on ignorance and expect others to follow.

Look at the facts that the OP presented and just say you dont think it will happen. If you disagree or find evidence against the claims, then present them. Dismissing it on belief implies that you arent interested in discussing, and want to shut down any other opinions as a result. Its not respectful to the discussion of opinions.

[Verdugo]

Congrats...you came up with 3 rather generic names...now fill out all 3 of them with unique abilities. (And no stealing from other classes)

Why not, they were ok with gutting Demonology.

[Kithelle]

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Not really...you kinda killed your argument when you stuck your fingers in your ears (or well maybe covered your eyes in this case) and yell "LALALALALA" and completely ignored my point.

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Why not, they were ok with gutting Demonology.

One ability that they mistakenly gave to DH because there was no class in WoW at the time...yeah gutted. Meta was canon for DHs well before WoW even existed.

[Laysh]

Rather would see Spell Breaker as a new class from WC3.

[Thimagryn]

Not really...you kinda killed your argument when you stuck your fingers in your ears (or well maybe covered your eyes in this case) and yell "LALALALALA" and completely ignored my point..

What is your point?. I honestly dont understand what point you are trying to make by saying priests summon ghouls and hunters having dnd. Dark Rangers dont have Stampede or Traps, so they arent hunters either.

Is it because you dont believe there is a way to create 3 specs with unique mechanics for the DR? I came up with unique mechanics examples, what are your thoughts on those?

Some of the same arguments used against the Demon Hunter were brought into discussion. It didnt stop the Demon Hunter, why would it stop a Dark Ranger? A holy paladin isnt that different from a holy priest either.

[PuppetShowJustice]

Or turn into a Banshee?

Sylvanas can't do that because she's a Ranger. She can do that because she was literally made into a banshee by Arthas. It's stupid to suggest that she would be able to teach people to do that. Even if she could teach it, she probably wouldn't. She plays her cards too close to her chest to want to give other people the ability to do that.

[Vynestra]

I'm hoping we get a void themed class to go with our first big void expansion, which would presumably be after bfa.

Not a void ranger or dark ranger, but a completely new class based on the voids abilities.

Magister Umbric already demonstrates abilities for the void. They could make up a completely new class based on it. I assume it'd probably be 1 tank spec somehow, and one or two dps. I think the tank spec would have to be turning into some void abomination or something. Healer just wouldn't make much sense.

[Thimagryn]

Dark Ranger sounds very unlikely.

What would be different from a hunters 4th spec?

Specs are specializations of a core class. The Dark Ranger has its own identity, like Demon Hunters or Paladins. What makes a Paladin not just a Warrior or Priest spec? or a Demon Hunter just a Rogue or Warlock spec? Class identity. Hunters are known for being ranged damage specialists who use traps, pets and physical weapons. Magic and Spells arent a part of Hunter identity, which is why it should be separated as a different class.

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Sylvanas can't do that because she's a Ranger. She can do that because she was literally made into a banshee by Arthas. It's stupid to suggest that she would be able to teach people to do that. Even if she could teach it, she probably wouldn't. She plays her cards too close to her chest to want to give other people the ability to do that.

I expect they would get similar treatment to DK or DH where Dark Rangers are all freshly ressurected heroes that died, probavly during BFA

[Huntingbear_grimbatol]

I'd rather Blizzard add +1 spec to some other classes instead.

Paladin - Ranged (or mid ranged) DPS spec in the spirit of Shockadins or Spellbreakers from WC3.

Monk - Ranged magic DPS, Fire Crane themed.

Priest - Ranged "disc dps" spec which uses holy damage to Smite enemies, maybe more of a "support" or buff role. Like giving power infusion to allies or +% damage taken effects on enemies.

Shaman - Tank spec, heavily influenced by earth style magic.

Mage - Healing spec, blood magic. Maybe a very attacking oriented healer spec where you focus on dealing damage to build up a bar/charges which you use for enhanced heals. Maybe even be melee, like a battle mage style. Maybe they would have "blood shield" which increased armor and healed allies for a % of damage taken (for pvp).

Rogue - DPS mid ranged spec. Gunslinger style with combo points, use lots of bombs and "dirty tricks". Maybe a bit like Demon Hunter is on Diablo 3, very good mobility (charge system with lengthy cooldown).



Warrior, DK, Hunter, Demon Hunter, Druid and Warlock I don't think there's much need or class fantasy that would fit more specs.

Demon Hunter being added kinda screwed up a lot of options though, like Warlock dark magic tanking and Rogues getting a magic themed melee spec.

[Kithelle]

What is your point?. I honestly dont understand what point you are trying to make by saying priests summon ghouls and hunters having dnd. Dark Rangers dont have Stampede or Traps, so they arent hunters either.

Is it because you dont believe there is a way to create 3 specs with unique mechanics for the DR? I came up with unique mechanics examples, what are your thoughts on those?

Some of the same arguments used against the Demon Hunter were brought into discussion. It didnt stop the Demon Hunter, why would it stop a Dark Ranger? A holy paladin isnt that different from a holy priest either.

My point is you can't just make up a few names and call it a day...you need to consider if a class has unique mechanics...you have to have unique spell effects...perhaps have some unique abilities that aren't just raw damage.

Can't just say "oh this will be called this and that will be called that" and the work is done.

[Thimagryn]

My point is you can't just make up a few names and call it a day...you need to consider if a class has unique mechanics...you have to have unique spell effects...perhaps have some unique abilities that aren't just raw damage.

Can't just say "oh this will be called this and that will be called that" and the work is done.

And why cant the Dark Ranger get new mechanics? What exactly prevents them from that?

AFAIK, you are just saying it needs its own kit. You havent sufficiently explained why the Dark Ranger can not have a unique kit.

The Demon Hunter was heavily inspired by Heroes of the Storms Illidan gameplay. The rest of their kit is filled with new abilities like eye beams, glaive throw, tanking Demon form and stuff that no one here would have considered a normal Demon Hunter ability. It all worked out. Who here expected Demon Hunters to have eye beams as an attack?

Sylvanas in Heroes of the Storm doesnt play like a hunter spec and can be a start for discussion.

[Verdugo]

I'm hoping we get a void themed class to go with our first big void expansion

Question is, why would you want to degrade void so much.

[TriggeredKid]

if dks are necromancers then hunters are dark ranger just get black transmog

[deviantcultist]

if dks are necromancers then hunters are dark ranger just get black transmog

Same thing was said with Rogues and Demon Hunters back then. Then Demon Hunter got added and problem was solved.

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I dissagree with the void tho.. there is nothing that resembles a Dark ranger with the void tbh. Alleria is not a Dark ranger.
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Dark_ranger I think we should stick to this, but expand not change. We already have the void elves to fill that gap.

Sylvanas is the big example, but I think there is room for Shadow hunter and little bit of warden maybe, depends how well 3 specs could work, while we only see Blood elf/high elf Dark rangers.

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Were you get this whole paladin thing from..like this isn't Diablo. I mean dark rangers doesn't resemble any of that?

You have made a few points, but let me explain. Dark Ranger by definition of classic lore, it is something exclusively based on Sylvanas. However, same thing was the case with DK being ONLY Unholy back in the Warcraft games. Then the WoW version included a Frost and a Blood perspective, expanding on the original concept.

With Alleria being sort of a "Void Ranger", I am looking forward to that expanding and reinventing the Dark Ranger class into something more of a varied Shadow user (both Void and Death).

As for my Dark Paladin mention, I simply drew a parallel to the traditional idea of a Holy Priest becoming a Paladin (eg. Turalyon) to what a martial version of Shadow Priest might look like.

Right now, the game supports ONLY ONE Void-based spec in the form of Shadow Priest and that is rather narrow, limited and currently suffers from many problems, including an identity crisis.

In conclusion, I am hoping Dark Ranger does get added along with a Void-based option to cater to the insufficiently represented theme.

[Kithelle]

And why cant the Dark Ranger get new mechanics? What exactly prevents them from that?

AFAIK, you are just saying it needs its own kit. You havent sufficiently explained why the Dark Ranger can not have a unique kit.

The Demon Hunter was heavily inspired by Heroes of the Storms Illidan gameplay. The rest of their kit is filled with new abilities like eye beams, glaive throw, tanking Demon form and stuff that no one here would have considered a normal Demon Hunter ability. It all worked out. Who here expected Demon Hunters to have eye beams as an attack?

Sylvanas in Heroes of the Storm doesnt play like a hunter spec and can be a start for discussion.

I never once said it couldn't...I'm saying people haven't presented anything unique.

You can't just make up a few names and assume the work is done...which is exactly what the original post I quoted was doing, they think because they came up with some rather generic names for specs that the class design is done...that small tidbit is hardly anything.