Hunter does not play or feel like a hunter even hunter lore does not synch with it

[Dragtox]

I played hunter since vanilla and i gona say i dont have perfect grammar so bear with that i think hunter is out of touch what makes hunter a hunter marksman really does not feel like a marksman right now it tryes to a mix between machin gun user and sniper when it should be sniper even if u like rapid fire and barrage those 2 ability does not feel like a hunter ability i purly feels made for a class that is not in the game like tinker aswell as mechanical pets but dont care super much abut those ofc hunter culd get a 4spec and call it mechanical hunter that wuld suit wildfire bomb barrage,mechanical pets and rapid fire alot more maby but as marksman plays now is to much mobility with only aimed shot that force you not to move but when i should be all ability to marksman should be based to deal more damage when it does not move and lose damage when moves around and should probly get longer range i wuld think swaping multi shot with bounce shot or double tap makes more sense to be aoe as! another thing that is strange is trueshot aura that used to be attack power now it is haste so not sure how haste is a true shot aura the name feels wrong! but y i hate marksman hunter alot in bfa becus it feels just wrong no matter what damage of number it gets it does not play as a MM Hunter

beast master and survival should really swap ranged and meele becus beast master does not really feel like you are a beast master you probly want to be like rexxar as beast master but for some reason we use ranged still since vanilla... but as the ability just feels wrong all you do now is shoot at enemy then shout on your pet to make it hit harder thats it... it wuld make more sense to be meele and have you attack along side your pet with combination attack and stuff like that but as it is now it just feels wrong and still goes the wrong direction as of Survival you go hunting with your pet take advantage of the nature but now you fighting with spear and staff for some reason instead of doing the ranged send pet at enemy while u shot poison and oil fire and traps at your enemy instead you are meele that throws bomb in meele range and use ability that feels like were better for beast master does not matter what legion artifect weapon you got the class just feels wrong in general over all other class hunter is going a wrong direction its not really fun to play hunter anymore its just a number game alone now... there is alot way to make the hunter feel like the hunter but blizzard makes it go the wrong direction all the time and aswell of meele hunter why is spear/staff the only loot for meele why sword,axe and duel wield i know people can disagree i just try to make a going even if i cant explain it better becus of my grammar but i want hunter to feel more like a hunter and to be fun i do not like the idea of hunter turning into something else then hunter i think it needs to make sense to wow universe if u dont want it to make sense we may aswell make it shoot 1mil giant sword out of the weapon

but i am not sure we can make spec be good for arena marksman hunter does not feel like a good choice for it and probly should not be that just what i think it may be better choice for battleground becus of bigger space to shoot if marksman hunter were to get more sniper aspect to it and its lame that war mode gets their own ability for pvp while pve does not get their own hope people understand i what i said and hopefully blizzard listen to this becus this is one of the reason i enjoy wow less

[Cyanu]

i'm sure that hunter does feel like hunter and it's never been more in tune with the lore and fantasy (other than the silly stuff, like buying arrows/bullets etc on which most of us would happily pass anyways)

other than that i agree that MM is terrible for arenas and having aimed shot buff arcane shot is a terrible design

[AwkwardSquirtle]

If you're looking to improve your grammar, maybe end a sentence once in a while. Seriously, your entire first paragraph shouldn't be one long run-on sentence. That makes it extremely hard to read.

[Utigarde]

It's better than Legion's, at least. Prepping your target into doing a long, hard hitting shot is a lot more like a marksman than shooting dozens of arrows all at once. I agree that rapid fire feels weird for the fantasy of a marksman.

[Dragtox]

i'm sure that hunter does feel like hunter and it's never been more in tune with the lore and fantasy (other than the silly stuff, like buying arrows/bullets etc on which most of us would happily pass anyways)

other than that i agree that MM is terrible for arenas and having aimed shot buff arcane shot is a terrible design

i dont think classic stuff should come back like buying ammos i gona play classic for that but rapid fire and mobility kinda ruins what marksman is
and to answere other beast master rotation is shooting 1-3 diffrent ammo then buff and try to use kill command as much as you can it really does not feel like a beast master you dont really feel connected with your pet with a attack rotation that is ranged base and kill command is pretty much only a shout to make your pet hit!
thats why i say it needs to be meele and get the combination attack with pet maby other animal to join in on the attack rotation instead of looking like a hunter that trys to be what survival used to be.. if people understand but still gona point out marksman was at is best playstyle in wod standing still gave more range and u deal more damage like it should be then u lose buff when move now its not

last of survival is pretty much wrong it should not be meele feels off if u go with a hunter to core you hunt with pet place trap send pet out and shot poison and stuff like old survival did but not just feels wrong and aswell main weapon focused on meele is spear and staff loot only two hand it should be both two hand and duel wield but still survival wuld feel more right as ranged then meele and beast master wuld be better as meele then ranged becus they can do alot more with the spec that way

worst part is people that join in later on wow that dont know the lore that well rexxar is a beast master but for some reason legion wanted to change it to survival meele and rexxar really shows how much bond he got with animal as a beast master as a meele fighter aspect of hunter is just confusing becus of legion

as i point out i prefer pve but pvp marksman should not a be a arena based class it works better for bg then arena

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If you're looking to improve your grammar, maybe end a sentence once in a while. Seriously, your entire first paragraph shouldn't be one long run-on sentence. That makes it extremely hard to read.

i cant really improve my grammar that much becus i am at my limit kinda there but y i can probly make it feel less heavy by getting abit more space between the lines
but i dont want to go to deep on my grammar thing

[Bepples]

i cant really improve my grammar that much becus i am at my limit kinda there but y i can probly make it feel less heavy by getting abit more space between the lines
but i dont want to go to deep on my grammar thing

It's not that hard to end a sentence. If you can't be bothered to make your post readable, I can't be bothered to try to read it.

[Dragtox]

It's not that hard to end a sentence. If you can't be bothered to make your post readable, I can't be bothered to try to read it.

well my story is pretty much based since childhood i was always behind in school but that did not start my problem i lost alot school becus of health issues that i had to live with over 10 years befor they culd even treat it in a hospital so alot school becus of stupid health thing is not that i dont want it to be better i am at my limit with alot stuff asperges syndrom and specific language problems aswell as english is my second language is not that i am lazy i am at my limit at how much i can learn! yes i am one of those case wow helped me in those hard times! but this thread is not abut grammar its abut Hunter

[Deleted]

The one thing I liked about buying ammo in vanilla was that some of the arrows had special effects on it like the Alterac Valley blueish aura arrows. I wished the game allowed for more visual customization other than haircuts/face or transmog, like spell customization. But it doesn't seem to be Blizzard's moto to give more player agency, they prefer to double down on the hand holding theme park ride more and more

[Dragtox]

i will agree they need to bring the ammo talant back from WoD to hunter cant force people to buy ammo and arrows again now but that talant exotic munitions was a really good choice by blizzard sadly they removed it in legion!

one thing i did like the idea of was when u see the hunter npc with a bird on their arm it kinda wuld work well with marksman but i guess blizzard did not think that far ahead and gives marksman rapid fire instead.... the ability that does not belong there and just to say it rapid fire used to be a attack speed/haste buff while trueshot aura was attack power buff

[Koriani]

It's not that hard to end a sentence. If you can't be bothered to make your post readable, I can't be bothered to try to read it.

NO excuses on capitalizing letters (like -I-) or using periods.

OP is not "at the limit" of your grammar. If you can press a space bar you can press a period and capitalize letters. That's all you're being asked to do to really make a huge difference here. Just takes practice.

In fact, you are using periods and capitalizing letters already. Just very inconsistently - but it is POSSIBLE for you to do it. So do so.

Right now its very difficult to understand and read coherently.

If you can't be bothered to do that, then many responders won't bother to try and read it. *shrugs*

Good luck with the internet. You'll need it. Because yea, if you don't do a few simple things - then half the posts will always be about not being able to understand your walls of text.

[Sabinn]

I will be honest I was interested once I saw the title but I just can't get myself to read that wall of text.

Still , I think hunter's do fit the lore, it never really changed honestly. There was this time when they had to change Rexxar from BM to Survival which I couldnt really like. I just wish BM was what survival is today. But I'd say that's just me.

[Hero2Zer0]

I don't know what some of you are complaining about. I was able to read what was written. Wasn't the greatest novella, but for the most part I understood what the OP was trying to say.

I'd be happy with BM swapping with survival, I always liked Rexxar, and Misha. I used to play the character in warcraft III(DotA) and that is where I really fell in love with him.

[Muajin76]

Hmmm...I use the 2 pet talent on my hunter. I use ranged wpns..I shoot and track shit. I feel very much like a hunter. ;D Maybe you're the hunter that doesn't use pets to help you kill stuff, that might be why you don't feel like a real hunter anymore. ;P

[Dragtox]

Hmmm...I use the 2 pet talent on my hunter. I use ranged wpns..I shoot and track shit. I feel very much like a hunter. ;D Maybe you're the hunter that doesn't use pets to help you kill stuff, that might be why you don't feel like a real hunter anymore. ;P

i u meen beast master that sends out pet and shout to pet like a pokemon trainer to hit harder does not really like anything special beast master its better if BM is meele and attack along side pet survival be closer to what you say if it was ranged i am not talking abut hunter alone i am talking abut how the hunter spec does not hit what their spec name is based on!

survival right now is kinda the same as outlaw they got ability based on pirates by that i meen the harpoon the bomb to survival

if bm was the meele i wuld replace harpoon with a pet that you ride on to charge in

[Feanoro]

We haven't been hunters since Cata turned specs into classes. We've been marksmen, beast masters, or survivalists. A hunter was a mix of all three.

[FecundDecay]

If you're looking to improve your grammar, maybe end a sentence once in a while. Seriously, your entire first paragraph shouldn't be one long run-on sentence. That makes it extremely hard to read.

Only if you bother trying to read it.

[Koriani]

You know survival has a pet right? If you want melee hunter along side a pet - that is 100% survival.

Why you think "Hunter" means melee i'm not sure. Because whenever I think of "Hunters" in fantasy - they are usually in leathers with a bow and arrows, sitting up in trees for hours on end. They aren't in heavy armor with a sword, or a spear.

And you can be a BM Hunter in melee range, right up on the boss, with your two pets fighting right with you (I do it every night!) - you're just firing arrows two inches from someone's face instead of a sword. But that's close to what you mean! =D

I think you're class vision of Hunter is just, from the base, different than what Blizzard ever had in mind. To me its one of the few classes that has never strayed from its class fantasy - sure maybe specs come and go and change up that class fantasy - but as a whole the fantasy has stayed intact.

[Markov41]

well my story is pretty much based since childhood i was always behind in school but that did not start my problem i lost alot school becus of health issues that i had to live with over 10 years befor they culd even treat it in a hospital so alot school becus of stupid health thing is not that i dont want it to be better i am at my limit with alot stuff asperges syndrom and specific language problems aswell as english is my second language is not that i am lazy i am at my limit at how much i can learn! yes i am one of those case wow helped me in those hard times! but this thread is not abut grammar its abut Hunter

If you're not smart enough to write properly, you're not smart enough to fix a class.

[Dragtox]

You know survival has a pet right? If you want melee hunter along side a pet - that is 100% survival.

Why you think "Hunter" means melee i'm not sure. Because whenever I think of "Hunters" in fantasy - they are usually in leathers with a bow and arrows, sitting up in trees for hours on end. They aren't in heavy armor with a sword, or a spear.

And you can be a BM Hunter in melee range, right up on the boss, with your two pets fighting right with you (I do it every night!) - you're just firing arrows two inches from someone's face instead of a sword. But that's close to what you mean! =D

I think you're class vision of Hunter is just, from the base, different than what Blizzard ever had in mind. To me its one of the few classes that has never strayed from its class fantasy - sure maybe specs come and go and change up that class fantasy - but as a whole the fantasy has stayed intact.

nah i am talking pretty much abut what blizzard made hunter be based on bm is the true rexxar spec befor they change rexxar to survival in legion and right and right now survival is the pirat spec that use harpoon, bomb and ofc a pet and u seem to forget that i said that survival fight with a pet but the meele part makes survival feel like the name does belong in that spec

BM did some ability in the right direction but tobad the other passive talants are better aswell as but if we want the BM to feel like a BM we should start by giving the melee rotation from survival to bm and add pet attacks with bm

survival should be like it did befor legion a ranged aswell as focus more on nature and traps while attacking with pet

marksman is still the sniper aspect is should not be a jumping around rapid fire then slow shot it should be slow phased but i wuld add the flying falcon and hawk to replace hunter mark

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If you're not smart enough to write properly, you're not smart enough to fix a class.

blizzard are the one that balance it not me i dont care abut what numbers that pops up numbers are not what the class is

and you should read up asperges syndrom becus u may understimate people with it

right now class spec like BM feels limited culd be better as meele and more fun
marksman feels off and wrong becus of the mobility and rapid fire
survival is wrong and does not follow the element of survival hunter its pretty much outlaw pirat spec with pet

[Appelgren]

I play survival Hunter and I feel like a Hunter.
I hunt for prey with my pet and I sneak around in camo using Traps and poisons etc.

Yeah... it feels exactly like a Hunter.

Stop crying or quit the game