For some women the bond forms very early. Even if intellectually they are aware the child is nothing but a bundle of cells their body is physically changing and emotionally it is their child. Killing it at that point is no more an option than killing it after birth.
Pregnancy is a possible consequence of sex, anyone who doesn't want to deal with the consequences - either a child or an abortion (which contrary to some opinions isn't as quick and easy as signing a piece of paper) - should abstain from sex.
i am not a fan of abortion myself, even though i'm pro-choice. i'd never have one.
if i ever got pregnant and the guy didn't want anything to do with it, i'd respect that because i understand that my personal views are going to bring this child into the world. that it's my fault this is happening.
everyone else should understand the concept of personal responsibility as well.
If the mother ends up on welfare that means we all pay for it.
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It's perfectly OK for the woman to say whether or not she wants to keep the kid, but the man has absolutely no say-so. Equality my ass. It takes both parties to make a baby, unless my birds and bees talk was wrong, so both should have an equal say in the matter. If the woman wants to keep it against the man's wishes, then the man shouldn't have to pay child support. They also should have no visiting rights or any ties to the child at all.
Both parties go into the 'act' knowing full well what they're doing. People always blame the man, like it's his fault, because currently they can't say shit if she gets pregnant. What a fucked up society we live in. Women always bitching about not getting treated like men, or men have more rights, better pay, etc, well women have all the power in the areas where it actually matters, and yet they still attempt to demasculinize men and treat us like shit.
Last time I checked, to have sex that results in a pregnancy, you need two people.
That means: Both caused the Problem.
Apart from that, the only issue i would see, is that (While unlikely) cant decide to have the Child if the women wants an Abortion.
The same thing you say about "Well, guys shouldn´t have Unprotected sex if they dont want a child" works both ways.
Dont take my word for it.. dont take any one persons word for anything really... listen to them, hear what they say, you'll realize the truth in what im saying on your own. Try a basic test... ask them if a 250lb muscle bound ex-NFL player who can do 2x the work should be paid twice the amount as a 120lb woman new into the workforce...see what they say... I"ll wait here for your apology.
No. They're two completely different and entirely unrelated things.
Abortion rights are about the right to end a pregnancy that's going on inside your own body. That's it. Abortions have nothing to do with parental obligations to children. If the abortion doesn't take and you carry to term and give birth, that you had an abortion doesn't change anything. If a man gets pregnant (and, while vanishingly rare, it has happened), he'd have the right to abort too; it's about an individual's control over their own body.
Parental obligations don't exist until birth, and at birth, both parents have equal obligations; there's no discrepancy to correct for.
it's not his responsibility, just like it's not the mother's if she chooses to have an abortion. it's exactly the same.
i would put the child up for adoption, because i'm just personally against abortion, even if i don't actually want the child.
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you're making the exact same argument that conservatives make about abortion. literally the exact same. you're both fucking wrong as hell.
it's an affront to personal responsibility.
It is his responsibility he choose to fuck her with no condom if the condom breaks or she tampers with it than I see the point but getting someone pregant is a choice. Nobody forced you to have sex with her.
A whole lotta people who don't seem to care about personal responsibility for some reason.
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