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    is BM really this shit?

    I have been looking at the recent logs on HC and it looks like BM is down the sewer. It's a bottom trash spec while MM is pulling way ahead, it's not even close.

    Is MM the best spec now?? BM looks useless.

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st...e=7&dataset=90


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    Our Raid leader is BM and doing fine.

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    A range spec will NEVER be useless, the difference between the first and last are just a few %. Only melee under the middle of the pack, especially ones with just 1 dps spec being melee, have to worry.
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    Yes, not topping DPS meters = a spec is to be buried and forgotten.

    Let's just completely ignore the free movement (the pet AI is easy as fuck to control through macros), the many utility options and effects received from pets.

    Think it's shit and can't perform with the spec to a level that still makes it useful? Don't play it. I'd prefer they work on the way it plays over balancing percentages in damage.
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    yes bro, BM is so shit that the top guild had one of them on their first world kill race.

    The nerve.... maybe someone should show and teach them to look at the warcraft logs, so they dont make those mistakes anymore.

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    BM is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigglix View Post
    yes bro, BM is so shit that the top guild had one of them on their first world kill race.

    The nerve.... maybe someone should show and teach them to look at the warcraft logs, so they dont make those mistakes anymore.
    This. Showing picture of statistics page and complaining about a spec is so funny considering Warcraftlogs are here for quite some time and people still didn't learn how to use it.
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    People still not understanding how to use logs in 2019.

    Will they ever

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    Previous tier Survival was top. How many Survival Hunters did you see? Yea, me neither.

    But, honestly, MM is better this tier, yea. Method had Meeres who was MM, and Gingi didn't go MM, too, because he doesn't have the proper traits, yet.

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    Yes BM is fucking shit right now, just like any other hunter spec. Hunters completely not viable in any PvE activity over other classes that bring both more DPS and more utility.
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    Insert quote from Rogerbrown about using BM for raid leading because he doesn't have to pay attention then.
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    Lets see your logs! Hunters used in both world 1,2,3 kills where they could class stack anything they wanted....

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    Yes BM is that shit. Anyone saying otherwise is just an ape that couldn't tell what good dps is to save their lives.

    And for the people talking about how they were in for the world firsts, it wasn't because of their dps. They were just tank escort/mechanic monkeys. That doesn't mean the dps isn't still shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavick View Post
    Yes BM is that shit. Anyone saying otherwise is just an ape that couldn't tell what good dps is to save their lives.

    And for the people talking about how they were in for the world firsts, it wasn't because of their dps. They were just tank escort/mechanic monkeys. That doesn't mean the dps isn't still shit.
    Exactly...

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    As much as I hate BM, it's perfectly fine.

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    BM used on world first kill, OP has no leg to stand on /thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavick View Post
    Yes BM is that shit. Anyone saying otherwise is just an ape that couldn't tell what good dps is to save their lives.

    And for the people talking about how they were in for the world firsts, it wasn't because of their dps. They were just tank escort/mechanic monkeys. That doesn't mean the dps isn't still shit.
    so im hearing they're in purely for the good utility and only a bit behind on dps, but you want the best of both worlds?

    ahhh so it's WAHHHH IM NOT OP!

    i mean method used a zerg strat, zerg meaning do as little mechanics as possible and maximise dps, and they still had a room for a bm hunter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socialhealer View Post
    so im hearing they're in purely for the good utility and only a bit behind on dps
    10% is not "a bit behind", it's fucking huge difference. 1-2% behind is somewhat acceptable, but not 10%...
    And from encounter to encounter that difference can be as big as 20%-40% (for example our hunter did ~16k on Conclave of the Chosen Mythic vs ~22k from shadow priest). How is this acceptable?
    Last edited by TOM_RUS; 2019-02-09 at 12:18 AM.

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    This isn't me pining for bm to be top damage, this is me calling bm damage what it is: shit.

    Get it straight before you reply like a jackass.

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    its fun who gives a shit where it is dps wise

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    Quote Originally Posted by aviger View Post
    its fun who gives a shit where it is dps wise
    It being fun is exactly why you should care about it's damage. If the damage is shit and you're trying to be competitive you're going to have to switch. Although that being said, the difference between MM and BM is not quite there yet.

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