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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth-Piekus View Post
    We've already seen during the whole Argus Campaign the Vindicaar and other Spaceships of the Army of Light able to do all those things. Why do they chose to ignore it? In fact why is it everytime a Warchief starts to mess things up that every asset either it is the Alliance or another neutral faction or someone who is against the interests of said Warchief tends to dissapear just for that Warchief's plan to have a chance? At the same time the specific Warchief's weapons are overrated to impossible deux ex machina's levels so he can get the upper hand when in reality he shouldn't have neither the resources or the manpower to put than plan into action. Why do they think that twisting reality so much makes a good scenario?
    "Alliance superpowers and superweapons make sense and are not plot breaking"
    "Horde superpowers and superweapons are bullshit deus ex machinas"

    No bias at all.

  2. #82
    The Lightforged Draenei truly are useless, they've literally been AFK since Sargeras' defeat. At least the resourceful Ren'dorei did their best to help the Alliance during the Battle of Lordaeron, the War Campaign, and the Incursions against the Zandalari.
    The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Void Fallen View Post
    The Lightforged Draenei truly are useless, they've literally been AFK since Sargeras' defeat. At least the resourceful Ren'dorei did their best to help the Alliance during the Battle of Lordaeron, the War Campaign, and the Incursions against the Zandalari.
    Drustvar invasion. Also, 7th Legion quartermaster is a Lightforged.

  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Name a Horde superpower/superweapon?
    The Troll Mask ritual that happens at the end of Horde Drustvar invasions could certainly be said to be one. Under the ritual's power you scythe your way through battalions of Lightforged Draenei and Alliance auxiliaries, including a platoon of Lightforged Warframes, followed up by soloing an Exarch at the end.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Name a Horde superpower/superweapon?
    What Alliance superweapons? The Gnomish Sattelite with the giant Lazer who was ignored? The Vindicaar? Tyrande? Malfurion? Velen? All of them are an army by themselves with crazy feats in the past and yet now ignored or nerfed to the ground.For the Horde I can name two superweapons who are overexagerrated. The Blight and the Goblin Nukes. Worst deux ex machina. It's an instant I win overexaggerated button used on Alterac, all of Lordaeron, Gilneas and recently Undercity when even the Azerite Tank failed. For some reason the opponents acts like an idiot against those.

    But it's not only the Alliance that acts like an idiot. Every Alliance and non Alliance acts either like an idiot or miraculously dissapear when a Warchief wants to stir things up. It spits on Warcraft itself. You can't just pretend that something that you built doesn't exist suddenly.
    Last edited by Darth-Piekus; 2019-03-06 at 07:41 PM.

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Drustvar invasion. Also, 7th Legion quartermaster is a Lightforged.
    They're doing very little given their backstory. Their efforts are wasted on Drustvar. It's not such an important region for us, and their technology and weapons could have been much more useful to us in the Battle of Dazar'alor.

    They're around. You probably just don't notice them since at a glance they just look like regular old Draenei.
    Actually all the Draenei I have seen in this expansion are Lightforged. Are Velen's Draenei even doing anything at all? Velen has certainly been AFK since Argus' death.
    Last edited by Varodoc; 2019-03-06 at 07:23 PM.
    The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Void Fallen View Post
    Velen has certainly been AFK since Argus' death.
    He's dealing with the shame of his piss poor writing in Legion. "GRAAAAAAHHH!" comes to mind.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex86el View Post
    "Orc want, orc take." and "Orc dissagrees, orc kill you to win argument."
    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    The Horde is basically the guy that gets mad that the guy that they just beat the crap out of had the audacity to bleed on them.
    Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/

  8. #88
    Why exactly does everyone believe the Vindicaar is some sort of doomsday weapon?

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by WonderZebra View Post
    Correction the Army of Light we've met don't go lightforging people, assuming you ignore the Light Mother
    I mean there's an NPC in the bottom of the ship where your mission table is as Alliance where she says she's more than willing to force 'lightforging' onto people the same way Xera tried with Illidan.
    Quote Originally Posted by scarecrowz View Post
    Trust me.

    Zyky is better than you.

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Imagine if they had this source of Energy. Perhaps from the very Planet itself. As a crystalised type of Gem and being found on Azeroth, They could call it Azerite.
    Assuming they could get it to work with Azerite to begin with.

    In short, right now, its only power source Argunite is unobtainable. It basically can't do much since it can't refuel. That is assuming they don't figure out some alternate fuel source at some point. But right now, thats all there really is too it.
    Quote Originally Posted by scorpious1109 View Post
    Why the hell would you wait till after you did this to confirm the mortality rate of such action?

  11. #91
    why do people think the vindicaar has powerfull weapons ? the best it did was blew some rocks and pierce a wall .

    it can help by moving peoples quite well however .

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Monkeymootwo View Post
    So wait the Army of the Light made a ship that's fuel can only be acquired on the home planet of their greatest enemy? Man Draenei are stupid lol
    Maybe. The Vindicaar meanwhile was built on Azeroth by the local Draenei und Velen.

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Genkisei View Post
    It is low on power. It ran out of the majority of its power during Legion. Only the minimum is currently running.
    It's not, you spend your time giving it a new power source so it could become a lightforged ship.

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Monkeymootwo View Post
    So wait the Army of the Light made a ship that's fuel can only be acquired on the home planet of their greatest enemy? Man Draenei are stupid lol
    The vindicaar is fueled by a source that was once abundant. Until their enemies took over. But yeah, right now its got no other juice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Every Pwny View Post
    It's not, you spend your time giving it a new power source so it could become a lightforged ship.
    That was used during the assault and our eventual escape.
    Quote Originally Posted by scorpious1109 View Post
    Why the hell would you wait till after you did this to confirm the mortality rate of such action?

  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by Genkisei View Post
    It is low on power. It ran out of the majority of its power during Legion. Only the minimum is currently running.
    It ran out of plot fuel amirite?

  16. #96
    Blame the narrative team for sucking, Danuser and others. Darkshore was a one sided battle, which favored the horde. Danuser and the devs didn't allow the alliance to pull out there big guns during that fight. The alliance got heald back, mages and other means of transport could have aided the nightelves. Blame the bad writing for the current crappy story that is BFA. Hope that Activision gets rid of Danuser and Alex next round of layoffs. Would be poetic justice.

  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Zantos View Post
    That was used during the assault and our eventual escape.
    It's still powering the ship, you see it there in the lightforged starting zone when the ship is in orbit above Azeroth, I'm not sure what you're talking about.

  18. #98
    So the Army ran out of fuel precisely when Sylvanas decided to start a new world war?

    Good lord, is there no end to Sylvanas' luck?

    And, for the record, the Vindicaar doesn't need to nuke the entire Horde army to be useful. It could have turned the tide of war just by planting Lightforged beacons to allow a constant stream of reinforcements and supplies to aid the Kaldorei. That alone would have ensured Alliance's victory in the War of Thorns as the main problem was that Anduin's fleet couldn't arrive on time.
    Last edited by Varodoc; 2019-03-07 at 06:19 AM.
    The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantos View Post
    Assuming they could get it to work with Azerite to begin with.

    In short, right now, its only power source Argunite is unobtainable. It basically can't do much since it can't refuel. That is assuming they don't figure out some alternate fuel source at some point. But right now, thats all there really is too it.
    Argunite - The Lifeblood essence of the Tortured Titan Planet Argus
    Azerite - the Lifeblood Essence of the Damaged Titan Planet Azeroth

    Wow, look at the amazing differences.

    Also its only Power Source wasn't Argunite, as it manage to run fine for a millenia in the Twisting nether before returning to Argus.

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Argunite - The Lifeblood essence of the Tortured Titan Planet Argus
    Azerite - the Lifeblood Essence of the Damaged Titan Planet Azeroth

    Wow, look at the amazing differences.

    Also its only Power Source wasn't Argunite, as it manage to run fine for a millenia in the Twisting nether before returning to Argus.
    Are you sure you're not mistaking that for the Xenedar?

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