All threads are Sylvanas threads.
Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.
Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.
Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/
Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/
Look at dem Sylvanas fanbois derailing threads into Sylvanas. Oh, wait, that's an Alliance poster... My mind is officially boggled right now.
The Sylvanas chip on their shoulder is too large at this point. It's moments away from gaining consciousness as it is. Sylvanas could die tomorrow and they'd continue bitching about her in 3019.
I must say the bridge one was a hella of feat, few would be so genius to destroy while they are on it.
But can we add how she was streamrolled by one orc clan and need to ask aid for the alliance?
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And this is factual true
people bitch about first/second war and Garrosh till today
Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/
The Garrosh bit is true, but after the second war the orcs ended up in camps for half a generation and the reason there weren't any serious consequences after the garrosh debacle was because of two faction dynamic, it is also why the horde won't suffer any consequences for this war once it is done.
Believe me, with the endless whining the Horde does, both characters in game and players without, I'm not likely to forget. I like to call it Terenas Mistake #1.
Yep, which is exactly why the faction war blows as a main narrative.the reason there weren't any serious consequences after the garrosh debacle was because of two faction dynamic, it is also why the horde won't suffer any consequences for this war once it is done.
Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/
Blame the gameplay. There's a warfront there, it was simply impossible for them to tell that story right then and there.
Besides, general consensus among basicaly everyone is that the night elves are winning by a long margin. Every interaction, quest and cinematic points to that, and the Alliance is supposedly winning in all fronts now.
Same goes for undead, including dark rangers. Killed a bunch of those right before the fight, in fact.
It could have worked if his security wasn't so bad, the fun thing is if he had kept the camps working the Alliance wouldn't have splintered, once it became clear the humans couldn't keep the camps in order the high elves were like wow we gave you all this money to keep that shit in order.
Anther mistake was not committing cultural genocide, he should have taken the orc kids out of the camps and raised them as equals among humans.
Oh it was possible, if both factions were actually involved and had reasonable causes, instead of this shitshow. But nope no nuance whatsoever and lets throw in more human characters, because the story narrative clearly needs more of them.
Last edited by Combatbutler; 2019-03-30 at 02:39 AM.
We are talking about resurrection, though, not just reanimation. Resurrection tends to heal your body of any external damage, otherwise, Sylvanas would have came back in little pieces at ICC, or with a big hole on her forehead after being shot. Moreover, "never dying again" can means a lot of thing - traditional immortality isn't necessary the only thing. For example, carrying out the ritual (the one Nathanos went through) to replace / empower / whatever it was / the Forsaken's bodies in mass, or simply bind each Val'kyr to a Forsaken (as Sylvanas put it, "The power of the Val'kyr will preserve my body for ages to come"), and / or bringing them back from dead would effectively make them "never dying again". That can't be done with a limited amount of Val'kyr, thus, the needs to get an eternal supply of Val'kyr.
Not necessary, I think. If they were bound to her in the sense that they are forced to resurrect her with no other choices, Arthura's hesitant wouldn't make much sense. If they have to resurrect her regardless, what's the point of bringing up the consequence of bringing Sylvanas back? It's more like they choose to honor their pact, as the alternative (leaving Sylvanas dead) would have them being bound to Lich King again since they aren't bound to dead!Sylvanas any longer, which they obviously don't want.
Je veux le sang, sang, sang, et sang
Donnons le sang de guillotine
Pour guerir la secheresse de la guillotine
Je veux le sang, sang, sang, et sang.
There claiming the alliance is winning on all fronts. Only because there setting it up for Sylvannas to turn the tables in 8.3 like the leak had said. From alliance standpoint there really isn't a sense of winning. When you have bad writing claiming that Zandalar raid was payback for Teldrassil. Yet the nightelves had no part of it. Instead Tyrande wanted Anduins help with darkshore. But the idiotic writers had him focus on raiding zandalar. The current story isn't immersive as it should be. We can only hope that activision lays off some of the narrative team only to replace them with writers that can do just that. But it won't work unless they get rid of Steve Danuser to.
That's normal "winning" for Alliance. We're told, not shown.
"We needed a reason for the arrogant primitives to join the Horde, so we did the usual Alliance bumbling. Lol they're such idiots!" I honestly think they don't realize how the writing reflects on them.When you have bad writing claiming that Zandalar raid was payback for Teldrassil. Yet the nightelves had no part of it. Instead Tyrande wanted Anduins help with darkshore. But the idiotic writers had him focus on raiding zandalar.
Danuser and Golden both.The current story isn't immersive as it should be. We can only hope that activision lays off some of the narrative team only to replace them with writers that can do just that. But it won't work unless they get rid of Steve Danuser to.
Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/
Yea, because the devs hate doing the work to actually show the alliance winning. Lazy design/dev team combined with loads of trash/bad writing that is BFA.
Well for reasons people here tend to hate her so ill try and name a few that are decent enough.
Holding back an scourge army to give Kael and his BE's time to escape. During which time of holding the chokepoint her starfall destroyed the bridge (People harp on this.)
She purified Eranikus with a sacred arrow. Being about the only thing she did in classic.
Met with Jaina and Thrall to help form the defense of Nordrasil putting aside all the "muh xenophobia."
Ambushed and decimated an orc army in mists forcing their remainder into the temple. (Then Varian proves orcs can be lured from defense by screaming "come get me nany nany boo boo.")
In Caverns of time she shoots down horde of demons allowing our party to make way until she runs "Out of arrows."
And pushing back through Ashenvale when Garrosh launched an all out assault with just her Shandris with her retinue plus the Silverwing and defeated the Horde. (que the release of the Magnataur and to defeat them was willing to burn down the entirety of Ashenvale to deny it to the Horde. Until Varian and the Worgen show up and eat the Magnataur.)
And walking off Garrosh's trump card poison that was able to one shot a group of the Blue Flights most powerful ancient dragons.
There are more spots like creating hundred of duplicates and taking down Xavrius and other sorts of weird stuff that people would LOVE if it was Sylvanas but for some reason gets handwaved from Tyrande. But the major problem is her actions open the story for another character or she is supporting another like Illidan so she never really has the light on herself. Which is why Darkshore -CAN- be promising and was such a let down to many fans. Shes a character that you can tell they loved to make and then kind of don't know how to deal with in the larger scheme of things.
Basically she is an avatar of Elune and can pull whatever shit writers want, since there are no revealed limits for Elune powers
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Sylvanas is basically a banshee, she doesn't have a revealed source of power to pull bullshit from. Tyrande has, that's why when Tyrande pulls ridiculous shit it can be explained by "she prayed to Elune and she blessed her with shower of natural 20s", while Sylvanas doesn't have that. In any way it's ridiculous and i hate that Elune has no established power limit and that Tyrande can draw powers from her
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