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    It would be more effective to outlaw youths...

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    Yes, and it will happen about the same time grown adults stop using fairy tales - invented centuries ago - as the foundation of their faux moral high-ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    people resorting to rape from having their sexual urges repressed as you claim need to die, so I don't get your point. Rape is among the worst actions out there, so jumping to that conclusion from something like restraint definitely says a lot about someone.
    That is an interesting sentiment. Tell us again about the purpose and results of your more than decade long addition to anime.

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    This is what I don't understand. Why can we just not call a troll a troll when it's soo bloody obvious.
    Because if we use the T word then the people in charge of this establishment will take offense and punish the users of the T word, unless of course the user is one of those protected individuals and can use the word without sanction.

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    I'm sure this has been linked:

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Who is "we"?

    I wonder if actually ANY country got rid of ANYTHING by making it illegal or punishing people harshly. Hell, people still like killing other people so much, not even the death penalty turns them off.

    Strangely enough, you can show boobs or full frontal nudity in so many countries on TV, yet porn runs rampant. And should a country start an initiative like the UK https://www.gov.uk/government/news/a...-begin-in-july - up springs a thread on social media and people ridicule it. (just for trying to restrict access, not even for the obvious difficulties and how easy it will be to circumvent)
    That's a weird complaint about punishing people for crimes. It was never going to work for each and every single person because some just don't care about the penalties they will get. It functions as a deterrent for those who do care about what kind of penalties they would receive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Not meant as a complaint, just an over the top comparison. I know it won't hold up, it is too ridiculous.

    I could have gone for the more obvious example where death penalty for drug dealing in some countries still does not stop people from trafficking https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capi...ug_trafficking
    It's like you didn't even read my post and understand what I posted.

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    I suppose you can try get rid of pornography, but you can never dampen the human urge for exploring sexuality and expressing art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Read it, guess I didn't understand it then.
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    Punishment for crimes were never meant to stop all crime. It's meant to reduce the frequency, stopping all crime is impossible because there will always be people who don't care about the punishment. Punishments act as a deterrence to deter people who would commit it if the punishment was too lenient. Your average Joe drug trafficker isn't going to risk fucking getting killed for bringing drugs to SEA countries. In other countries, he could very well do it because he doesn't think the punishment is too much to risk, especially not in countries where he's just looking at maybe a small amount of time in prison and fines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heran View Post
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    Punishment for crimes were never meant to stop all crime. It's meant to reduce the frequency, stopping all crime is impossible because there will always be people who don't care about the punishment. Punishments act as a deterrence to deter people who would commit it if the punishment was too lenient. Your average Joe drug trafficker isn't going to risk fucking getting killed for bringing drugs to SEA countries. In other countries, he could very well do it because he doesn't think the punishment is too much to risk, especially not in countries where he's just looking at maybe a small amount of time in prison and fines.
    Well put. Finally, somebody else on the internet actually understands laws and the purposes they serve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    the question I have to this is: Why do responsible adults try to assume otherwise then? There has to be a good reason.
    Because their vapid prudes indoctrinated by a system like religion or other ideologies and use porn banning as a method of authoritarian control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leotheras the Blind View Post
    I've never found any men (not including soyboys) that are against porn, and I've only found women who have an issue with it. Really gets the noggin joggin.
    really because i've found the opposite to be true for women. i wonder what sort of women your associating with for your example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    the question I have to this is: Why do responsible adults try to assume otherwise then? There has to be a good reason.
    because they are either religious or prudes or both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    It doesn't stop rape.
    It proberly does stop some rapes.

    Having access to some form of sexual stimuli, that is also close to free, is proberly a great help to people who find themselves being impulsive and hard to control if they haven't gotten some sexual interaction for a while.

    Don't know if you are male or not, but try ask a sexual active male, who watches porn and have sex, to not do any of that for 2 months. They will proberly tell you of experiences with high frustration, where the mind goes in rather dangerous areas. Then just imagine a person, who does not know how to keep thoughts from turning into action.

    PS: Just like some women when extreme sexual when they feel the child need coming on, so does some men when their inner clock starts ticking. Having access to an outlet for that extreme sexuality does help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheEnd View Post
    I suppose you can try get rid of pornography, but you can never dampen the human urge for exploring sexuality and expressing art.
    Its just like with kids and rebellion. If you stop one way of rebellion like rock music, wierd clothing decisions, breaking curfew etc. they will just find another way. Its a natural part of life, just like diving into ones sexuality.

    If people don't do that, they end up repressing themselfs and creating traumas.
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    I lived in the US my whole life and no one ever describe porn to me as sinful or harmful that wasn't on TV or in the media. My mother may have told me or my brothers it's disgusting and threw things away (back then it was only physical media) and my dad would have taken it and watched it before throwing it out but thats about it. Can't throw away the internet though. Anything I put up to block it they would find a way around it. I won't outright spy on them either by monitoring their traffic. Fucking creepy and honestly I dont want to know what the demented mind of a 16 year old and 14 year old comes up with. I have been there. No fucking thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    Desensitization, degrading of work-reward system (high intensity reward for doing nothing).
    What the actual fuck...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    It doesn't stop rape.
    This is true because rape is not about sexual pleasure so much as it is about domination and control over another person. Some people enjoy hurting others.
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  17. #217
    Well people got hand of porn long before internet was a thing. I see no reason to outright ban it. Its the internet, anything can be found on it. If we start banning porn sites, whats next?

    I remember the days before internet and everyone got hold of porn in one way or another. I bet if we banned porn on video, internet, magazines etc, people would just start drawing nude people :P

    We just gotta educate and talk to young people about sex and porn. How the reality works and how porn(more fantasy) works. I mean if you are 13 years old and go into internet porn sites they might get a unreal picture of how sex and relationships work. Especially unrealistic expetations to themself and others.'

    Banning pornsites on the internet is the wrong response to the issues society is facing with bad behavior between people(rape etc).

    Outright banning it wont work and will probably only make it more appealling to alot of people.

  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    it's sinful ,
    I really doubt either one of the three major religions say Pornography is sinfull in their books (which accoding to all these three should be your guidlines from the god).

    Just becuse a dude with a hat and an artifact from assasin's creed says its sinful doesnt make stuff sinful.
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    If only there was a personal ID that is unique to every individual and is a number that could be inputted into a system that verifies that it is, indeed, you! That'd be a pretty neat concept honestly. Sarcasm aside, that's how you fix any kind of age verification. Duplicates aren't allowed, and you can fix it through support if someone somehow gets hold of your #

    That isn't to say this is the best solution but it's the most obvious and easy to use one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    Desensitization, degrading of work-reward system (high intensity reward for doing nothing).
    How is porn a reward? It's a means to an end, lack of porn isn't going to stop people masturbating.
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