Jeffrey Epstein trafficking case

[Theodarzna]

"I'm not a sexual predator, I'm an 'offender,'" Jeffrey Epstein told the New York Post in 2011. "It's the difference between a murderer and a person who steals a bagel."

More than a decade after his conviction for soliciting prostitution from a minor, registered sex offender Jeffrey Epstein has been charged in New York with sex trafficking.

The 66-year-old in the past socialised with Prince Andrew, President Donald Trump and former President Bill Clinton.

Now he is once again in court, accused of running a "vast network" of underage girls for sex. He has pleaded not guilty.

But who is Jeffrey Epstein?
'Terrific guy'

Born and raised in New York, Epstein taught maths and physics in the city at the private Dalton School in the mid 1970s. He had studied physics and maths himself at university, although he never graduated.

A father of one of his students is said to have been so impressed that he put Epstein in touch with a senior partner at the Wall Street investment bank Bear Stearns.

He was a partner there within four years. By 1982, he had created his own firm - J Epstein and Co.

The company managed assets of clients worth more than $1bn (£800m) and was an instant success. Epstein soon began spending his fortune - including on a mansion in Florida, a ranch in New Mexico, and reputedly the largest private home in New York - and socialising with celebrities, artists and politicians.

"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy," Donald Trump told New York magazine for a profile on Epstein in 2002. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.

"No doubt about it - Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

In 2002, Epstein flew former President Bill Clinton and the actors Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker to Africa on a customized private jet. He made an unsuccessful bid to buy New York magazine with then film producer Harvey Weinstein in 2003 - the same year he made a $30m donation to Harvard University.

But he also strove to keep his life private, reportedly shunning society events and dinners in restaurants.

He dated women like Miss Sweden winner Eva Andersson Dubin and Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of publisher Robert Maxwell, although he never married.

Rosa Monckton, the former CEO of Tiffany & Co, told Vanity Fair for a 2003 article that Epstein was "very enigmatic" and "a classic iceberg".

"You think you know him and then you peel off another ring of the onion skin and there's something else extraordinary underneath," she said. "What you see is not what you get."
Conviction and plea deal

In 2005, the parents of a 14-year-old girl told police in Florida that Epstein had molested their daughter at his Palm Beach home. A police search of the property found photos of girls throughout the house.

The Miami Herald reports that his abuse of underage girls dated back years.

"This was not a 'he said, she said' situation," Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Reiter told the newspaper. "This was 50-something 'shes' and one 'he' - and the 'shes' all basically told the same story."

However, prosecutors forged a deal with the hedge fund manager in 2008.

He avoided federal charges - which could have seen him face in life in prison - and instead received an 18-month prison sentence, during which he was able to go on "work release" to his office for 12 hours a day, six days a week. He was released on probation after 13 months.
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The Miami Herald says that the federal prosecutor Alexander Acosta - now Secretary of Labour in the Trump administration - struck a plea agreement hiding the extent of his crimes and ending an FBI investigation into whether there were more victims or more powerful people who took part. The paper described it as the "deal of the century".

Since 2008 Epstein has been listed as a level three on the New York sex offenders register. It is a lifelong designation meaning he is at a high risk of reoffending.

But Epstein maintained his properties and his assets after his conviction. He was arrested in New York on 6 July after flying back from Paris on his private jet.

Prosecutors are now reportedly seeking the forfeiture of his New York mansion, where some of his alleged crimes occurred. If convicted, he could face a maximum 45-year prison term.

"He has never been secretive about the girls," columnist Michael Wolff told New York magazine for a 2007 profile piece, as the case against Epstein moved through the courts.

"At one point, when his troubles began, he was talking to me and said, 'What can I say, I like young girls.' I said, 'Maybe you should say, 'I like young women.'"

(BBC Article Source)

This is perhaps the closest thing to an IRL PizzaGate as exists. In so far as Jeffrey Epstein ran a global sex trafficking resort and airline, and seems to have had an impressive roladex of contacts and regular social interractions with rich and powerful people. Alan Derschowitz and Alexander Acosta (Who incidently ensured a light sentence last time he got in hot water) are examples but his circle includes former president Bill Clinton, current president Donald Trump, Stephen Hawking appearently. If any of the named people just now had sex with sex slaves, particularly underaged ones is yet to be known, however it does appear he maintained a huge network of extremely powerful well connected people.

Perhaps most shocking is the claim by one freed sex slave that there exists an archive of videos of underaged sex slaves having sex with powerful people and that these videos were used for blackmail purposes.

So.... comments? discussion? Bets on how long Epstein remains alive if he has dirt on important people?

Also, this thread is about the case, possible network of other guilty parties ect:

It's fine to start a new thread on it, but any further derailment like this and it gets shut down again. We're not going to tolerate discussion of the details of pedophilia

Thanks to @Ripster42 for pointing this out. Please people, don't take the thread into a gross territory.

[Flame6]

I think he's an awful person and am not defending him, but i keep reading sex trafficking ring and resort. Where does that part come into his charges? I've only read about him having sex with underage girls and having them find more girls to sleep with him. Am I missing more evilness?

[Machismo]

I would love for anyone involved to be uncovered, and revealed to the world. We already know some of the shit stains who are close to this, like Trump, Clinton, Dershowitz, and Alex Acosta. I hope all those dirty bastards go down.

[Shadowferal]

I think he's an awful person and am not defending him, but i keep reading sex trafficking ring and resort. Where does that part come into his charges? I've only read about him having sex with underage girls and having them find more girls to sleep with him. Am I missing more evilness?

Being accused of "accused of running a "vast network" of underage girls for sex."
Child sex slavery...does that sound better?

[Queen of Hamsters]

As if the uncoverings would lead to any consequences for people like Trump. I'm sure he could deny it away and his fans could ignore it, just as with the rest of his baggage.

Would be interesting if there's been extortion though, I was always fascinated by that topic.

[Celista]

I love the Google description of him when you type in his name.

"Jeffrey Edward Epstein is an American financier, philanthropist, and registered sex offender."

The fact that he was a partner at Bear Sterns is almost equally noteworthy. Is anyone truly surprised? People with a lack of ethics tend to act unethically in multiple facets of their lives.

[Mister Cheese]

I am wondering how many people he is willing to throw under the bus to try and get out of this. Namely Clinton, Trump, And Podesta(the one who got him his previous deal in the first place). Imagine the people trying to prove pizzagate was real having some merit.

http://is2.4chan.org/pol/1562517767395.png

I just want to point out that this picture is being posted all over twitter. It's fake. This is the real one. Posting it in here before someone tries posting the shopped one.

[Machismo]

I am wondering how many people he is willing to throw under the bus to try and get out of this. Namely Clinton, Trump, And Podesta. Imagine the people trying to prove pizzagate was real having some merit.

http://is2.4chan.org/pol/1562517767395.png

I just want to point out that this picture is being posted all over twitter. It's fake. This is the real one. Posting it in here before someone tries posting the shopped one.

Except this really isn't Pizzagate, this was way before that. They are still wrong, dead wrong.

[Theodarzna]

I love the Google description of him when you type in his name.

"Jeffrey Edward Epstein is an American financier, philanthropist, and registered sex offender."

The fact that he was a partner at Bear Sterns is almost equally noteworthy. Is anyone truly surprised? People with a lack of ethics tend to act unethically in multiple facets of their lives.

The paranoid part of my mind makes me think he has a fuck ton of dirt and connections to seemingly have so many people run cover for him and that he isn't immediately called a sex slave trafficker. And absolutely, I do believe people in that social strata do have really no compunction about this sort of thing.

I am wondering how many people he is willing to throw under the bus to try and get out of this. Namely Clinton, Trump, And Podesta(the one who got him his previous deal in the first place). Imagine the people trying to prove pizzagate was real having some merit.

http://is2.4chan.org/pol/1562517767395.png

I just want to point out that this picture is being posted all over twitter. It's fake. This is the real one. Posting it in here before someone tries posting the shopped one.

[SNIP]

I am wondering if he has the power to throw a fuck ton of people under the bus, will he be dead before he gets to?

[Mister Cheese]

The paranoid part of my mind makes me think he has a fuck ton of dirt and connections to seemingly have so many people run cover for him and that he isn't immediately called a sex slave trafficker. And absolutely, I do believe people in that social strata do have really no compunction about this sort of thing.



I am wondering if he has the power to throw a fuck ton of people under the bus, will he be dead before he gets to?

He'll have suicided with two shots to the back of the head before we have a chance to find out.

[Independent voter]

Looks like he's heading to prison this time.

[Celista]

The paranoid part of my mind makes me think he has a fuck ton of dirt and connections to seemingly have so many people run cover for him and that he isn't immediately called a sex slave trafficker.

Don't think that's paranoid at all, he is connected with several powerful individuals. Including Trump and the Clintons.

[Orbitus]

I am wondering how many people he is willing to throw under the bus to try and get out of this. Namely Clinton, Trump, And Podesta(the one who got him his previous deal in the first place). Imagine the people trying to prove pizzagate was real having some merit.

http://is2.4chan.org/pol/1562517767395.png

I just want to point out that this picture is being posted all over twitter. It's fake. This is the real one. Posting it in here before someone tries posting the shopped one.

No, pizzagate still isn't real.

[Theodarzna]

Don't think that's paranoid at all, he is connected with several powerful individuals. Including Trump and the Clintons.

I'll bet he has the dirt. If these former trafficked women's stories are true I bet its huge. My concern is that if its too huge, those same power brokers might keep the story buried or be selective with evidence.

I mean if we had a legit "PizzaGate" esque situation, some vast network of powerful people supplied sex slaves and hedonistic services; would that ever see the light of day? It's like of Bob Lazar was telling the honest to God truth, how the fuck would we ever get proof of that shit?

[Celista]

I am wondering how many people he is willing to throw under the bus to try and get out of this. Namely Clinton, Trump, And Podesta(the one who got him his previous deal in the first place). Imagine the people trying to prove pizzagate was real having some merit.

http://is2.4chan.org/pol/1562517767395.png

I just want to point out that this picture is being posted all over twitter. It's fake. This is the real one. Posting it in here before someone tries posting the shopped one.

Well that is definitely not any better, do we really need more photographic evidence of Trump being gross?

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I'll bet he has the dirt. If these former trafficked women's stories are true I bet its huge. My concern is that if its too huge, those same power brokers might keep the story buried or be selective with evidence.

Well yeah, we only hear what powerful people want us to hear. Why do you think there have been almost no news stories about rental rates/real estate values quadrupling over the past decade?

[Shadowferal]

Bill Clinton covering his arse

Former president Clinton on Monday issued a statement on new sex trafficking charges against billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein, saying he knew nothing about the “terrible crimes” Epstein is accused of.

“President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York,” the statement from a Clinton spokesperson reads.

“In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s airplane: one to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Clinton Foundation,” the statement adds.

[Theodarzna]

Bill Clinton covering his arse

Former president Clinton on Monday issued a statement on new sex trafficking charges against billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein, saying he knew nothing about the “terrible crimes” Epstein is accused of.

“President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York,” the statement from a Clinton spokesperson reads.

“In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s airplane: one to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Clinton Foundation,” the statement adds.

I know Trump too has gone on the defensive. Clinton has got to be shaking given the connections to the Clinton Foundation in general. I am unsure if Alan Dershowitz went silent about things. This feels like it could be some huge thing. My gut says there is taps and pictures, a metric fuckton of evidence on a metric fuckton of people.

[Orbitus]

I know Trump too has gone on the defensive. Clinton has got to be shaking given the connections to the Clinton Foundation in general. I am unsure if Alan Dershowitz went silent about things. This feels like it could be some huge thing. My gut says there is taps and pictures, a metric fuckton of evidence on a metric fuckton of people.

What connections to the Clinton Foundation?

[Ripster42]

What connections to the Clinton Foundation?

He's been accused as being a participant. Supposedly the SS alibis him out, but, I mean, it's the SS, and during the years in question they had multiple ethics scandals involving prostitutes themselves.

Edit: unless there's some other thing I'm missing.

[Theodarzna]

What connections to the Clinton Foundation?

I am not sure anything is set. I know people are asking about stops in connection to the Clinton Foundation in which Epstein's sex dungeon plane was used?

Then, of course, there is the current president. I know Trump allegedly banned Epstein from mar-a-logo or whatever but I think there is some dirt to bust open about this. He's had a lot of contact with Epstein. And with Trump there is a lot of evidence of him hanging out with Epstein. Clinton too. The Hawking one suprises me, though I doubt he could physically do anything.