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2019-09-11, 07:32 PM #1The Patient
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Could The Lich King Beat Us With The Heart of Azeroth?
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2019-09-11, 07:38 PM #2The Undying
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Considering he sees you as a smudge when you visit him during BFA, I think there might be a chance.. Though, no sword to help
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2019-09-11, 07:42 PM #3Legendary!
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The better question is, Could Arthas beat Ditka?
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2019-09-11, 07:44 PM #4I am Murloc!
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Champion is empowered by titan herself. Lich King is mere creation of Kil'jaeden.
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2019-09-11, 07:44 PM #5Over 9000!
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When we had an amplified Ashbringer? No. Lich King couldn't even beat Tirion when he was a mere pleb that couldn't unlock the Ashbringer's baseline special ability. The necklace?? lol. Necklace sucks compared to our artifacts.
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2019-09-11, 07:50 PM #6The Unstoppable Force
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Without a means to break frostmourn it would be the same as in wrath and I doubt an axe made by a pirate has the same amount of power as the ash bringer.
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2019-09-11, 07:50 PM #7Titan
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Lich King's power is widely overblown. People just think he's cool and that gives him a lot of bonus points.
It's possible that Bolvar could be slightly different. Maybe we'll find out the mixture of dragon's fire + the LK's power amps him up a bit.
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2019-09-11, 07:55 PM #8The Unstoppable Force
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Originally Posted by matrix123mko
That’s really not how power scaling in wow works 20 people were able to beat a titan with weapons about the scale of frostmourn so it’s likely arthas could beat the same nobody’s with a much weaker neck.
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Arthas scaled with the amount of souls/undead he had so while Bolvar might have the dragon fire he would have a lot less power from the actual crown. Originally Posted by ro9ue
The question would really be if the dragon fire makes up for that or not.
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2019-09-11, 07:57 PM #9Mechagnome
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No, because it is LFR and we get stacks on every wipe.
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2019-09-11, 07:58 PM #10I am Murloc!
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I beat his ass a long time ago with no empowered azeroth titan neck, so yep
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2019-09-11, 08:00 PM #11The Unstoppable Force
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Arthas killed us without Tirion freeing the souls in forstmourn we lost. Originally Posted by Phookah
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2019-09-11, 08:01 PM #12I am Murloc!
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What makes you believe that Heart of Azeroth is weaker than Ashbringer? It is an artifact created by titan and empowered by dragon aspects. Seeing how much azerite it does contain, we can assume that we wear Well of Eternity on our necks. Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium
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2019-09-11, 08:06 PM #13The Unstoppable Force
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The well of eternity had the power to blow up the continent and make the maelstrom. 20 people with the heart to Azeroth can’t beat up a fish before it does some lock picking. They really aren’t comparable. Originally Posted by matrix123mko
As far as being weaker then the artifacts nothing else explains how we go from fighting titans to fish. The heart of Azeroth also isn’t meant to make us uber powerful like the weapons it’s meant to heal Azeroth.
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2019-09-11, 08:10 PM #14Warchief
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The greatest defense ever? Not a chance. Originally Posted by rrayy
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2019-09-11, 08:13 PM #15Legendary!
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I was thinking the same thing. Then again with that logic no one would ever be able to ask “can X kill Y” because it’s up to the storytellers to tell you. Originally Posted by Phookah
When it comes to bosses well yea, they are always killable if Blizzard makes the encounter killable.
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2019-09-11, 08:14 PM #16Old God
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Considering gameplay doesn't translate to actual power levels, probably not. Us with artifact weapons? Yes. Heart of Azeroth pales in comparison to Ashbringer or Doomhammer.
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2019-09-11, 08:21 PM #17The Patient
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It seems like people grossly underestimate the heart of Azeroth. Originally Posted by matrix123mko
- Blizzard has stated that the Thunder King - a demigod who we toppled - would beat Arthas in a 1v1.
- Wrathion stated pre-legendary cloak that the champion is the most powerful individual in Pandaria.
- The player character’s canonical power has naturally risen every expansion.
- Archimonde was toppled by the champions wielding the savage hollows during WoD.
I think it's correct too assume that an artifact that is the embodiment of the world’s heart and that has been empowered beyond our finale with Azshara - the most powerful mage in existence - would give us the edge to curb stomp Arthas.
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Your source for this assumption? Originally Posted by Kyphael
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We fought literal murlocs on the broken shore. I don't see your point? Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium
Blizzard routinely has us facing ludicrous ’threats’ despite the world-shaking power we possess.
Please use a better example.Last edited by mario710; 2019-09-11 at 08:17 PM.
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2019-09-11, 08:23 PM #18Over 9000!
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But those murlocs had Illidan wings! Totally different yo! And Wrathion's "powerful Individual" comment probably refers to mortals. And Thunderking died and was still recharging. Originally Posted by mario710
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2019-09-11, 08:24 PM #19The Unstoppable Force
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We beat the thunderking before he could regain his old power It’s like beating up on some one who just beat cancer and hasn’t had time to recover yet. Originally Posted by mario710
We also fought arck with multiple army’s at our back I don’t believe there is any canon on how the fight actually went down.
As to the heart of Azeroth power we have no way to know how much it supes us up as it’s not made for that it’s made to heal Azeroth. What we do know is that with the artifacts we could fight a titan but with the heart we couldn’t be a fish in a timely manner.
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2019-09-11, 08:28 PM #20Mechagnome
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If we didn't attack him at all, sure
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