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    haha "But Obama!"

    Fuck off Republicans with your grandstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    News Flash! RCP is a well respected poll aggregator and they aren't cherry picking polls.
    Time to bookmark this post for every time you vomit up that polls aren't ever accurate and mean nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    Yes... but it only shows a less than 1% increase, and even then it's not about impeachment but about removal from office. Perhaps understand the charts and pols you post before taking a victory lap?
    RCP is showing a pronounced shift the past week. If you want to believe it's insignificant or an anomaly...go for it.
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    The argument from those that the president did nothing wrong, this entire process is rushed, and we still don't have all of the facts would be answered if the REPUBLICANS would demand the White House to get the right people to testify. Until they do, their statements is just empty BS. Why aren't they doing so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by omerome View Post
    The argument from those that the president did nothing wrong, this entire process is rushed, and we still don't have all of the facts would be answered if the REPUBLICANS would demand the White House to get the right people to testify. Until they do, their statements is just empty BS. Why aren't they doing so?
    They wen't the other direction, and refused to testify or even allow witnesses. Almost as if they're lying and have things to hide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by omerome View Post
    The argument from those that the president did nothing wrong, this entire process is rushed, and we still don't have all of the facts would be answered if the REPUBLICANS would demand the White House to get the right people to testify. Until they do, their statements is just empty BS. Why aren't they doing so?
    Because they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. Trump telling witnesses to refuse subpoenas is already Obstruction of Congress, but if those people actually do speak they'll bury Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    RCP is showing a pronounced shift the past week. If you want to believe it's insignificant or an anomaly...go for it.
    It's not about a belief, a 1.5% increase on a 100% scale is by definition insignificant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    Time to bookmark this post for every time you vomit up that polls aren't ever accurate and mean nothing.
    Never mind. /10 char
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    It's not about a belief, a 1.5% increase on a 100% scale is by definition insignificant.
    During the past week, I calculate a 3.9% increase in those who don't support Trump's impeachment and removal using RCP data. The difference is 5.5% over the past 8 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    They wen't the other direction, and refused to testify or even allow witnesses. Almost as if they're lying and have things to hide.
    And this is what puzzles me. The fact that they are clearly trying to keep information under wraps and still are trying to say this process is rushed and we need information is just insane. But it's scarier that some people are buying their twisted logic. They have to know that he violated the law, and they are still willing to go down with him when they can easily just do the right thing. Sure it has "consequences" of losing their seat, but it's better than the "consequences" of being written in the history books as someone who voted against the country just to appease the party and will be looked at with contempt 50 years from now. What precedence will they set if we were to somehow elect someone who is even more conniving and calculating than the current person in the White House? Will they be okay with potentially more blatant forms of lawlessness from future Presidents?

    My head hurts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    Because they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. Trump telling witnesses to refuse subpoenas is already Obstruction of Congress, but if those people actually do speak they'll bury Trump.
    Which basically boils down to one thing: they are cowards.

    These people don't work for the President and they need to be voted out for someone who would be better suited to do the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Oh - a few people breaking away from the party vote? I may have misunderstood what you were saying.
    Yes, and it's fine. I've got the worst case of man-flu I've ever had so *I* may not be getting my point across clearly. My apologies if that's the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omerome View Post
    And this is what puzzles me. The fact that they are clearly trying to keep information under wraps and still are trying to say this process is rushed and we need information is just insane. But it's scarier that some people are buying their twisted logic. They have to know that he violated the law, and they are still willing to go down with him when they can easily just do the right thing. Sure it has "consequences" of losing their seat, but it's better than the "consequences" of being written in the history books as someone who voted against the country just to appease the party and will be looked at with contempt 50 years from now. What precedence will they set if we were to somehow elect someone who is even more conniving and calculating than the current person in the White House? Will they be okay with potentially more blatant forms of lawlessness from future Presidents?

    My head hurts.
    Well... most US history books are dictated by Texas, and they have a penchant for making stuff up. So they may be betting on winning, and writing the history to show them in a good light.
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    I swear the GOP must be the world leaders in self-owns...

    https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1...106566150?s=20

    Attempting to deflect on Trump's behalf during a Rules Committee hearing on impeachment, GOP Rep
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    accuses several Democrats of previously voting to bring up an impeachment vote. But then she is informed that several of the members she is attacking weren't in Congress.
    The 5-10 seconds of silence after she realizes is...*kisses fingers*

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    During the past week, I calculate a 3.9% increase in those who don't support Trump's impeachment and removal using RCP data. The difference is 5.5% over the past 8 days.
    I am seeing a 2.5% increase in 8 days, which isn't a significant change, and what statisticians call 'noise'. The aggregation shows an upward trend, and it will only continue to climb once the senate trial begins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    I swear the GOP must be the world leaders in self-owns...

    https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1...106566150?s=20



    The 5-10 seconds of silence after she realizes is...*kisses fingers*
    Sometimes, I truly wonder how it must feel to be this retarded. Her life must be so much easier than ours, considering I doubt she has the brain cells to worry about things.

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    Pelosi using the flag that Republicans like to screech about against them. lulz
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    This farce is backfiring bigly! ROFLMAO

    Impeaching Trump is unpopular in key election states
    https://www.axios.com/trump-impeachm...cfc628c49.html

    Trump approval up 6 points since launch of impeachment inquiry: Gallup
    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...inquiry-gallup

    Trump Approval Inches Up, While Support for Impeachment Dips
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/271691/...ment-dips.aspx

    Last edited by DocSavageFan; 2019-12-18 at 05:57 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    This farce is backfiring bigly! ROFLMAO

    Impeaching Trump is unpopular in key election states
    https://www.axios.com/trump-impeachm...cfc628c49.html

    Trump approval up 6 points since launch of impeachment inquiry: Gallup
    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...inquiry-gallup
    Don't worry, Trump has all 2020 to continue doing stupid shit and remind everyone why they hate him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solinari6 View Post
    Don't worry, Trump has all 2020 to continue doing stupid shit and remind everyone why they hate him.
    "Everyone"? No. All the haters perhaps...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    "Everyone"? No. All the haters perhaps...
    Remember folks he doesn't support Trump nope not at all.

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